Great article by imspirit. It refers to Baccarat but the same argument applies to any NE game. https://imspirit.wordpress.com/2012...or-negative-expectancy-games-in-the-long-run/ Please read and digest this before embarking on quest for the ultimate progression, and don't listen to the self-styled "GURUS" on this forum who would have you believe otherwise. Ask for just the merest shred of evidence that any of their claims are true and they'll attack you; call you "closed-minded", or tell you that no one would be silly enough to reveal a system which would take down the casinos (LOL). Which, of course, isn't any evidence at all. It's simply irrelevant. Such people are not trying to help you. They're seeking to bolster their own doubts by gathering a following of fellow believers. And that's all you have : belief. Systems and progressions are like religions; except that unlike religions it can really be proved that they don't work.