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Roulette Why You Should Consider Mentoring Someone

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Sep 3, 2018.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You experts with experience should actually consider taking on students and charge them for your time. You have years of experience and you know where the pitfalls are. You should charge at least $2,000 and you will earn every penny of it if you do. You stick with the student until they are experts too.

    At $2,000 to $3,000 you will save them even thousands more. Guiding someone, if you really have it, is fun. It's even better if you can make an interactive spreadsheet or your own practice software to teach with.

    It seems that just about everyone starts with mechanical systems that will change their lives forever. How much did it cost you to learn that these systems cost you money instead?

    How many of you have learned to overcome your own human nature to want more? Do you have a plan to win? If you have these skills then you should try mentoring others. It's a bargain to anyone that intends to spend thousands while learning the hard way. At worst it's a break even prospect. All educations have a cost. Even if you learn on your own it has a cost. You will make big mistakes along the way of doing anything new. There are people here that could actually help in that regard if you just placed a value on what it is that they actually know.

    We know that people have come and gone while swearing to the successes of their new found variation on negative progressions. We also know that they have learned lesson the hard way. But there are very few that actually know how to win. In cases like that it tends to be most of the time. The real test is to see if they can become a professional gambler and make a living at it. That is the real test.

    Teaching others can be a way to support a professional gambling career. It is done that way with every other activity known to mankind. Why not gambling? You want to be a hot guitarist, take lessons. You want to be a great chef? Take instructions. You want to be a pilot? Take flying lessons. It all costs money.

    Step up. Charge for it. It's actually worth something. And most important of all, it is fun too.
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have one person that I'm currently "teaching" when it comes to roulette
    and how to win - there's no charge and never would be.
    But to each their own. Most people are motivated by money or their own greed.
    A "Gambling career" would be supported by winnings, not by some "fee" for knowledge.
    In that case the person is charging a fee because they can't win using their own ideas.
     
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    Well said that man!
     
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    Completely factually correct.

    I've only played a short time but I'll tell you with more than $16,000 in my pocket from win money I learned on my own and every one of them that I play with at the local casinos has either listen to bought or was mentored for cash from other people or listening to others for how they should wager and every single one of them is losing. End of story.
     
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    Beautiful.
     
  6. Nathan Detroit

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    I would not even waste my time teaching anyone . regardless WHO it is . They won`t listen and do it way no matter what .


    I fully agree with Turbo Genius post, The truth behind system sellers and mentors .


    Why don`t those cats go back to the tables with the lowest minimums and work their way up again ?
     
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    Correction:........they won`t listen and do it their way .


    Sorry .
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Thank you all for complaining too much. None of you have anything worth selling.

    You all act like altruistic bullshit salesmen already. You are selling the fact that you don't have it.

    And last of all you don't know what you are missing. So gambling is not a skill worth anything. What a laugh.

    You clowns need to start a club for old ladies.

    I just wanted to hear at least one logical person with respect for the capability. But you lame brains need so badly to posture yourselves as saintly.

    Back in rock climbing school it was $5000 to get guided up the Matterhorn. It was $200 per day to get an extreme skiing lesson. It was $25 per hour for lead guitar lessons. It was several hundred dollars to get certified for SCUBA in a group school.

    But you SOB's don't have anything worth buying. Thanks for grand standing your placement in the world. I'll face any future students face to face. I'll teach who I want and sell it for what I think it is worth. What you have isn't worth 25 cents.

    See how easy it is to criticize you guys? Anyone can do it. BTW, there is only one person on these forums that can beat the casino and that person is Glen. He has issues with self control while gambling but he is the only one on the right track. The rest of you are either stuck in systems or you don't actually expect to win.

    It's been fun...
     
  9. TurboGenius

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    No need to get upset.

    Maybe it was the word you used - when I think of a "mentor", I think of someone
    who takes another under their wing to show them things from their own experiences
    and maybe better the person they are helping.
    I can look up the definition if you want -

    There's no real point in there where it says "for a fee" or "make money from them".
    Mentoring is about giving of your knowledge to improve another.

    It makes it appear to the readers that your motivation is making money for yourself.
    The "mentor" word is simply the sugar coating that you chose to use.
    Like a make believe school where people can sign up (pay you) and then you'll teach those
    students. Now it's that you're a "mentor" and people can (pay you) and you'll help them along
    the road to.......(where ?).
    It's just a way to make something bad (scamming) sound like something nice.
    That's my only input, to each their own.
     
  10. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Turbo,

    I'm willing to consider teaching you how to win on a limited basis on the East Coast, but you can't be afraid of us if you want to learn how to actually beat the wheel.
     
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    When I served my Union Apprenticeship I worked for cut wages in exchange for the education. When I worked for two years as an intern in the music business I received no wages. But I got a real education. I sacrificed my time and my actual work in order to receive something that is worth something. Something that I could compensate myself for later in life.

    You are just trying to compensate yourself right now. And what the fuck is all this? You got a problem with people making money off of their education? This is not Socialism yet Bub. I know what I'm doing. I'm the inventor of Reading Randomness and have figured out strategically how to apply it. It was pretty good, but now it's really great. And I'm going to sell it to those that will value it by paying up front for it. I sacrificed to learn it and to figure it all out. Just because a bunch of people think its a scam, and these same people are ignorant of what it is, that does not make it a scam.

    If you don't value what you know then that speaks for itself plain enough. You know what people say in the real world. You get what you pay for. You act like it's a virtue to tell people that you can beat Roulette and then never explain it. You do this for prestige. You've got a reputation for saying that a system works and then it is eventually proven that it does not. That need for recognition is a sells job too. Trust me Turbo. You are selling.
     
  12. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Exhibit A:
    https://www.quora.com/How-much-can-...e-an-individual-for-a-year-or-complete-course

     
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    The first problem most people have is that they're too lazy to leave their house.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The first problem, I think, is that they discover the Martingale and then they spend years trying to tweak it. With the internet they can test theories with penny games online. Ever wonder why nobody is a Keno expert? You would think that Turbo would be that guy with all of his capabilities in predicting the future.
     
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    Not my words but pretty good... from internet

     
  17. TurboGenius

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    Maybe they weren't interested.
    Like I said, I'm beyond you now. You "could" learn from me, but you're obviously not capable of doing that.
    Nice sticking up for the "system seller" though... peas of the same pod.
    Makes a book about how to detect bias wheels....or...become a "mentor" - yep, not much difference.
    Selling dreams to people filled with hot air and smoke/mirrors.
    I probably wouldn't leave my house to witness that kind of nonsense (again)
    I WOULD though go to watch myself play lol - at least I'd learn something of value as people already have.
     
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    Here's your first lesson.
    What you think you know is vastly smaller than what you don't even realize exists.
     
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    That should already be obvious to anyone with half a brain who is not stuck up their own arse-hole. Geez! A lot of you guys sure do run around in circles.
     
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    I dont care if the fee is 3K or $20 or free, thats not the MAIN issue (imo). Two problems >> the person(s) you are teaching, half of the time they dont listen. You can take their money but you cant make them follow your "teachings". I said it before, the loon that has been playing for six months feels he knows more than the 20 year guy. Why? F**k if I know but thats what I see on the boards TODAY.

    I get on MANY hot streaks at the casino and I cant stop others from following my bets (and I hate it). All they have to do is follow only my bets but NOPE, they do that along with 15 other numbers (lol). Thats an example of FREE advice from me (thats what I'll call it) and they cant even do that for three hours? (lol)

    The guy who puts $400 on red & $300 on black, I respond.....just put $100 on red. Same thing but better. He tells me I'm wrong. F**k'em, who needs the headache?

    The second reason for NOT selling, lets say you DO have something GREAT. So your STUDENT learns and then goes on to re-word your thoughts and SELLS the damn thing. Court time? No way, most won't bother with it. Also, why not let them learn through the SCHOOL of hard knocks, like I did.

    and if they do happen to fail, your name gets dragged through the mud for years. I could on and on and on but I think I summed it up. Its just not worth it.

    Ken
     
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