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Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by LovePotion9, Sep 5, 2015.

  1. Ozzy

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    The fact that you can count the amount of women on 1 hand on WOV,makes it highly probable RONA and AIMEE are the same.The timing and odds of another female sign up in that span are not likely.
     
  2. Ozzy

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    TwoFeathersATL was part of the threesome of bozos but seems to have vanished.
     
  3. LarryS

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    the only time I see regular suspension announcements is for socks

    otherwise I have in the past read references of posters saying they were suspended.
    Heck OAB was suspended a couple weeks ago upon his return.....it was mentioned by the admin in responding to a concern I had on the thread....but it wasnt an unprovoked official announcement.

    Unlike wov..i think the admin likes to keep it low key and not try to "shame" people....unless its a serious violation like socks...then I have seen public apologies needed.

    Also I think that beofre non sock suspensions....people at least get a warning if i understand things correctly before suspensions start.
     
  4. MrV

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    Well I guess that's pretty cool of the admin, to attempt to keep the suspension itself from becoming a topic of discussion.
     
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  5. HowMany

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    Yes. I have been suspended twice here. No reason was given other than to say I broke a rule.

    The mods here (BeachedWhale) regularly remove my posts, yet they call this site uncensored.

    I have been suspended here twice. Only suspended once at WoV.

    Clearly BeachedWhale mods here now. I'm pretty sure I will be nuked here any day now. Fuck it.
     
  6. Mission146

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    Apologies for the delayed response, Sunday, NFL Playoffs, need I say more?

    I only use verbiage such as, 'Go fuck yourself,' because it is within the boundaries of the Rules on this website to do so. I, 'Feel,' neither good nor bad about it. If it were not within the boundaries, then I would have simply found an alternative means of expressing my thoughts. When a site is heavily moderated and has a different set of Rules, the Rules have an intent over and above mere censorship. You may recall that I used all sorts of profane words prior to the, 'No profanity,' rule being started over there. After that rule came to pass, I stopped using them.

    I cannot speak for anyone else, but I would absolutely not ban someone for calling me out at WoV. I would like to think no other Admins would, either, unless I were personally insulted, and even then, I would prefer they not take action...but that's not up to me.

    I cannot imagine anyone with over a hundred posts (such as myself, here) would be nuked for, 'Go fuck yourself,' but there would certainly be a ban. I don't dispute that, how could I? Profane language is against the rules, and there is a reason for that.
     
  7. Mission146

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    It would not be inaccessible, it would be readily accessible to anyone who is logged in. It would not be a, 'Closed group,' per se, just any person who is logged in.
     
  8. Admin

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    It's not that you are prohibited from offering your wager, it's that you continuously create off-topic posts and derail threads which is against our rules. We rarely issue warnings/temp-bans for off-topic posting because everyone does it every once in a while. However, in your case, you are a serial offender who seems to only post off-topic by posting your wager everywhere and repeatedly. You've already it posted multiple, multiple times and we've never censored it. In fact, every single one of your posts on that topic are still on the site:

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    However, if you keep posting off-topic, we are going to keep warning you which will continue to lead to increasing and automated temporary bans.

    Post your wager as a thread and be done with it. If no one replies, it's because there is no interest in it. There is no need to keep derailing irrelevant threads by posting it over and over again.


    Yet it's the only evidence you posted to support your allegation.

    Correct, you originally just spread an unfounded rumor using hearsay as your only evidence to accuse another member of being a sock puppet.

    If you're going to be lazy about it, then don't bother making accusations about others being sock puppets as you won't be taken seriously. The Boy Who Cried Wolf comes to mind.

    There was no sarcasm in your post. When we pointed out you had no evidence to support your allegation that another member was a sock puppet, you went digging for some and you proudly presented the exchange where that member is praising another member and then said (in all caps) "CASE CLOSED". You can attempt to back track now, but this behavior is in line with your past behavior regarding sock puppets. You are an alarmist and you tend to cry wolf a lot without actual evidence. Just a "hunch". We don't take action based on "hunches" here because hunches are oftentimes wrong.

    We have quickly learned that there are a lot of people interested in roulette systems. We don't know if they expect to profit from them or use them for fun, but we certainly won't censor them here as long as they keep the discussions outside of the Advantage Play Roulette Forum and nothing is being sold.

    Maybe. But who is selling roulette systems here? Please point out the posts where a member is selling a roulette system. You won't find any.

    Once again, point out where these people are selling their scams here. We have not seen it and you haven't yet pointed it out (because they aren't).

    The thing is, we don't censor people for being hated or being deceptive. In fact, we have two members here who we've proven have compulsively lied about us, and even after getting busted, they're still allowed to post here as we will not censor even them.

    We don't allow them in the Advantage Play forums, so if they're not under those Forums, then it's understood that they aren't EV+. It doesn't need to be pointed out because it's a given and we aren't going to censor them.

    We didn't seek out people who promote betting systems, we invited the top members of other popular gambling forums. We were never concerned with filtering for whether they were sellers since selling has been prohibited here from Day 1. You have still not pointed out how a scammer can scam someone on this forum considering our rules and you have still not pointed out posts here where people are selling something. You can be the biggest scammer in the world, but if you aren't allowed to sell or promote your scam, then why does it matter? It doesn't.

    That's like saying the Founding Fathers came up with a very unique and clever way to allow terrorists to spread their hateful ideologies when they created the Bill of Rights. As if the Founding Father had to be terrorist sympathizers themselves to have come up with the Bill of Rights. That's a ridiculous supposition. When you have freedom of expression, you get it all, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Period. This should not be this difficult to understand.

    You do keep dodging the question because even in this reply you haven't pointed out how a scammer can scam here. The reason you haven't pointed it out isn't because it's "obvious" how, but because it's incredibly difficult to do here thanks to our rules. This isn't a coincidence. It's by design since spammers and scammers were our biggest problem in our other communities, and we figured it would be even worse in the gambling industry due to the higher profit margins. That's why we decided to preempt the problem from Day 1.

    You answered the question about how scammers can scam people in other Forums, but not here. Users need to fulfill very strict criteria here before unlocking the Private Messaging feature and being able to contact another member, which is why the vast majority of members are unable to use that feature, which is why it's so difficult to scam someone here.

    We can't baby sit our members, particularly with what they choose to do off-site. If they get scammed, even on other Forums, then our uncensored nature gives them the opportunity to expose those scammers. So even if someone were to somehow get scammed here, which is itself very unlikely, then they would be able to quickly and easily expose that scammer, thus ending the scammers run here after 1 victim. So the ROI just doesn't exist here for scammers. That's why we are certain that those people that have admitted to you that they fell for someone's roulette scam did not fall for them on this site.

    We look forward to reading it.


    Correct. Most sites permanently ban for multiple accounts. We prefer a lighter approach, where the perpetrators get a chance to publicly confess in order to keep their main account. This serves two purposes, 1) it leaves no room for doubt about their sock puppets since they are openly admitting to it, and 2) it acts as a public deterrent to show others who may consider using multiple accounts that it's simply not worth it since we will catch them and they too will have to publicly confess and lose face/credibility.

    Correct. Temp bans usually occur with every 3 warnings we issue a user. We rarely issue warnings, which is why our members are rarely temp-banned unless they are serial offenders or do something egregious like use multiple accounts (without confessing) in order to harm the integrity of our community.
     
  9. LarryS

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    irrelevance is in the eyes of the beholder
     
  10. Admin

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    We mean irrelevant compared to the topic of HowMany's repetitive posts, not that those threads HowMany posts in are irrelevant in general. Something as specific as a post about a wager about whether someone will have relations with someone else is really only relevant in a thread specifically about that topic, and is certainly not relevant in intro threads, political threads, a thread about another forum dying, and other irrelevant and unrelated threads where HowMany's posted it repeatedly and incessantly. Again, everyone goes off-topic every once in a while, but the problem with HowMany is that they keep doing it over and over and over again non-stop to the point where it disrupts and derails threads repeatedly. It only really stops when HowMany accumulates enough Warnings that lead to a temp ban. Since each subsequent temp ban in a 6-month period is greater than the previous one, those breaks will keep getting longer and longer.
     
  11. MrV

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    I do not see a rule against it in your stated "Terms and rules."

    The only conduct prohibited by the writte rules are "any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws."

    Perhaps admin should revisit and unpdate the written rules, in the interest of fairness and transparency.
     
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  12. LarryS

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    I lost all sense of attributing a shred of honesty to your posts after this. Of course you enjoy using those words. Its not just because you can use it. You "can" call me a cottonpatch nigger" like NC did. There are numerous words that you dont enjoy using that you refrained to use ...that would have been allowed.
    People communicate in a way that they enjoy communicating. You enjoyed sayig "go fuck yourself". Which is ok. I enjoy writing what I write...or else whats the point.

    Its not like manboy ordered you to write an article for Wov on anal sex with animals. And your write it because you idolize him, but are not really into the subject matter. Whater you post here, you post in a manner that you like.

    Knowing that you can be yourself.....you post as you wish.

    Not like a castrated puppy dog as people do ay wov.

    being suspended for eternity is method used at wov to prevent further "calling mods/manboy out"

    its a method of preventative maintenance to ensure furture questioning is muted.

    see B9, bb1, larrys ETC
     
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    Our rules are posted in the Announcements section:

    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/site-rules.226/
     
  14. MrV

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  15. Mickey Crimm

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    Mission, it was a given that sooner or later Larrysclitoris would get around to trolling you.
     
  16. Mission146

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    I'm glad to hear that you have literally read my mind and are in a position to tell me what I do and do not enjoy. Do you have the same skills when it comes to Roulette wheels? May I go to the casino with you sometime, if so?

    I did not, 'Enjoy,' saying, 'Go fuck yourself,' for two reasons:

    1.) In general, I would rather not engage you in a heated argument such that I would be in a position to suggest you fuck yourself. I'd rather have a civil discussion.

    2.) I'm merely using the words that come naturally to me in that situation, so to suggest that I, 'Enjoy,' that is akin to suggesting that I enjoy the mere use of language. On WoV, correct, I do not always use the words that would immediately come naturally to me. That doesn't mean that I, 'Enjoy,' using the verbiage that does come naturally, it just means that is my natural verbiage and there is no rule against doing that, here.
     
  17. KewlJ

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    The "How Many" situation is bizarre to me. o_O I am sure it is a headache for the administrators because it challenges the "anything goes" policy of this site. But the fact is just repeating that you hate that certain moderator at WoV and she is fat and disgusting (complete with photos) contributes nothing to any discussion and frankly is nauseating. Whether one is male, female, gay, straight (or as we refer to them....breeders), it is just disgusting. The only possible good that comes from that is perhaps a few of our overweight members have lost a lunch or two over it. ;)

    How Many: I know you will retort with an attack of me, but I don't know what happened to you. At WoV, you were one of my favorite contributors. Level head and added to good discussions. I felt horrible when you resigned immediately after my banning, citing that as the final straw, referring to the loss of good members. I felt so bad that last spring when I was having discussions with Mike about a possible return, one of my stipulations was going to be that you be re-instated as well. Of course talks never reached that phase.

    When you joined this site, I was happy to see it. I thought you would bring good constructive discussions to the site, jut as you had done at WoV. But you have just been a complete obsessed jerk, completely obsessed with a single topic that just nauseates everyone else. I mean what is the matter with you? It's hard to believe you are the same person. Maybe your not. o_O
     
  18. Junket King

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    Stick to things you do best, like gobbing into rubbish bins, in broad daylight, outside a family eatery.
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  19. LarryS

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    gregory hines
     
  20. freddy

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    Looks like Granny's vittles didn't agree with Jethro. Were the chitlins under cooked? Was it the crawdad dip? Maybe the stewed squirrel and ham hocks?
     

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