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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by LovePotion9, Sep 5, 2015.

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  1. Mission146

    Mission146 Well-Known Member

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    There's an IP Match between KewlJ and LVKid, though I'm not the one who banned him. I can prove it with a screenshot, if needed.

    If I had to speculate, KewlJ was already logged onto the Forum on his device when he got on at his friend's house, but then he logged off and created the new account. The only other possibility is that he logged in as KewlJ from that IP after LVKid had already been banned. I couldn't tell you either way, the only thing I know is that there is an IP Match now.
     
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  2. freddy

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    Or maybe, just maybe, your article on blackjack was going to be posted on April 21st so LVKid was conviently banned the day before. That way you wouldn't be upstaged by someone who actually knows a thing or two about blackjack...someone who plays rather than just writes about it.

    Your article was terrible by the way. Attacking the writing and not the writer...just like your hero says. Another 2500plus word snooze fest by someone who thinks leaving their player's card in a slot machine for some unsuspecting schlub to accumulate his comps is being an advantage player.

    Do you get paid by the word? That would explain the 6 paragraphs and over 500 words describing more bathroom activity. Talk about off topic. Nathan must be scratching his head.
     
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  3. Mission146

    Mission146 Well-Known Member

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    Just to clarify, it's more of an article about an AP's attitude towards casino staff as opposed to Blackjack specifically. I also think KewlJ would tend to mostly agree with my points in the article. If he has anything to, 'Upstage,' me about, I welcome him to do so here. I've learned a lot from KewlJ, and as I have stated several dozens of times, BJ really isn't my area of knowledge. For that reason, I don't write about BJ specifically very often, if I say anything about it at all, it's usually as a minor point related to something like this article.

    Thank you for reading the article regardless of your opinion, appreciate the page views!

    If you're getting $0.10 in points convertible to Free Play on every single spin and taking zero risk, I fail to see how that doesn't qualify as an advantage play. It's not a great one, and it's definitely, 'Slummy,' (which I've admitted) but I believe 500 spins in one hour equals $50 in Free Play given the scenario outlined. I know people (myself included) who play for a lot less than $50/hour.

    My payment arrangement is none of your business nor concern.
     
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  4. oopsididitagain

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    It's funny how a bunch of people who live off others' gambling addiction begin to think that they know something about life.

    Useless crap, not even the addicted read it. But, sometimes it's important to attack also the writer. With laughter, I suppose.

    Whatever it is, it's never enough to throw your life away on this crap. I'm impressed how stupid it is to want to "make America gamble again".
     
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  5. freddy

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    Another great WOV thread started yesterday : "I Think the Casino Music is Making Me Crazy" by onenickelmiracle. He reports that loud music made him "nervous, mentally confused and agitated". Then he goes off on AxleWolf for telling him that he might have other issues.

    Other issues? The guy's a nut job. That's the issue. Mr Miracle is the one who shared with the forum that he once went into a gas station restroom and saw "a poop the size of a coke can". One man's treasure. Right? So other issues? Most definetly.
     
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  6. Ozzy

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    OneNickleMiracle/ Fleastiff and the long missed TwoFeathersAtl...3 Superfreaks
     
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  7. Ozzy

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    I forgot that NAREED, who had about 11000 posts in a short span, enough to make EvenBob/ Spike jealous, who vanished into thin air...she/he is still in top 3 after not posting for about 5 years :eek:
     
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  8. Mission146

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    1.) What are you talking about? I don't believe I own a casino. Maybe I do and forgot about it somehow? Many of my Articles are written with a slant towards Advantage Play or trying to minimize -EV play. The others are primarily just sharing news or opinion.

    I'm guessing you're one of those who think that the casinos hold guns to peoples' heads and force them to play. It's a vice, and I consider them no better or worse than any other vice industry. It's also something I enjoy, ergo, I write about it.

    2.) I'm sure that they continue to pay me to write because everything I write is garbage that nobody reads. That makes total financial sense.

    3.) Well, good, I don't have to worry about you ever competing for my job. I happen to enjoy it.
     
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  9. shuffleupagus

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    Mission is quite a talented writer, I'm not sure anyone else is as good at turning semi interesting subjects into unreadable drivel.
     
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  10. freddy

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    Nareed is posting on the freak show known as Diversity Tomorrow. That's the pitiful site started in October 2012 by the smug, cocky manboy himself. The site, after all this time, now boasts a whopping 257 members with a claim of 168 active members.

    Number one poster there....EvenBob good old Spike himself with 10,180 posts.

    Number two....Nareed with 10009. Fleastiff is there too. Talk about a bunch of misfits.
     
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  11. Mission146

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    That's creative, you should write for the sites. Thanks for the page views.
     
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  12. oopsididitagain

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    You don't have to own anything to be a bottom feeder in the gambling industry, which, for whatever reasons, is based on the addicted.

    They pay you to write anything about gambling, but not about gambling per se, the disease that it is. In fact, you go to lengths to avoid writing about what it really is. This behavior is the most addicting aspect of gambling sites, and gambling in casinos.

    Lots of people enjoy harming others. Most of them are cowards who "do it at a distance".

    P.S. Were any of you points valid, we would be having this conversation you know where. Where the conversational English and other mental skills meet the sixth grade.
     
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  13. Mission146

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    1.) There are many industries based on the addicted, at least in part. Where you have vices you have addicts, I concede that the gambling industry is a, 'Vice industry.' People drink who are not alcoholics, people drink who are alcoholics. People smoke who are not addicted to tobacco/smoking, people smoke who are addicted. Same with gambling.

    The question of whether or not the gambling industry is an immoral industry is the same as the general question of whether or not any vice industry is moral. I suggest that personal responsibility is the question, and I also suggest that the casinos should provide the means for people to access the help they need if they need help. I think the same can be said about tobacco/alcohol, those companies should have to contribute some amount to treatment programs for that.

    2.) Gambling is not a disease, some people are, 'Diseased,' for lack of a better term. Gambling is neither good nor bad in and of itself. I do wish that some casinos would do more to identify problem gamblers and not allow them to gamble, and I believe that I have said as much in a few articles.

    I've written about addiction and the dangers thereof on quite a few instances, but you have clearly not read everything I have written and nor would I expect you to have done so. If you want me to link to some, I can probably dig them up, but I'm a bit busy today so it would need to be tomorrow sometime.

    If you're a Member at WoV, feel free to start a thread provided you are not banned. I call things as I see them. I'm not a ball washer for the industry and I don't plan on becoming one anytime soon, online or otherwise. Were I ever asked to do what I would consider ballwashing for the industry or lying in its favor, then I suppose I would find something else to do. As far as what others write or do, I'm not responsible for other people.
     
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  14. KewlJ

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    Yeah it is the second. I logged on to wov as kewlj from my friends apartment after I had been banned at wov as LVkid. I did this because I was researching something.

    I don't really care. I shouldn't have even attempted to go back to a forum that doesn't want me and quite frankly doesn't deserve me. I did so primarily to offer advice and my opinions to two different new/young players. when I wasn't happy with the advice they had received.

    Again, it doesn't matter, but there really is no question surrounding the banning of LVkid. Norm banned him at his site and minutes later LVkid was banned at WoV. Norm still controlling and making demands of Mike and Mike still doing as he is told.
     
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  15. Ozzy

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    I know, your not a ballwasher like LarryS :D
     
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  16. Ozzy

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    That's where the he/she outcast ploppy, with over 11000 irrelevant posts in about 2 years went to...I think Nareed was a wetback to boot :eek:
     
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  17. AxelWolf

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    I'm not addressing your writing(it's almost as good as mine).

    As far as the gambling addictions stuff goes "casinos should provide the means for people to access the help they need if they need help" Don't be fooled into thinking there's any real help for this BS "disease". It's not a fucking disease just because they labeled it that way. Calling it gambling(and other addictions) a disease is just a clever campaign to help bring sympathy to those with addictions and lets those with the addiction Blame the disease.

    IMO calling this stuff a disease is making it worst. It as if it's almost more acceptable because it's not your fault, "it's a disease".

    The GA and others success rates are staggeringly low. I have no reason to think GA adds much more of a chance over someone just committing themselves to stopping.

    GA is just a way for casinos and the government to make themselves look better and it gives the industry something to cling to when they run into gambling opposition. "Hey its ok, because we have a 1800 GA number printed on everything."
     
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  18. redietz

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    There are habit-forming, addictive qualities to virtually every behavior. Consumerism, sex, watching television, checking email -- they all have addictive behavioral qualities. What gets labeled a "disease" and what doesn't is related to how the culture in which they take place labels them as such and if a sanctioned subculture has grown up with the purpose of "curing" the behavior. When you think about it, watching television five hours a day is an enormously addictive waste of time, and it basically has the effect of getting you to buy products and services you do not actually need. But "Television Anonymous" doesn't get much serious traction in the U.S.

    Axel is correct in that the success rate for Gamblers' Anonymous and other step programs is quite low and not appreciably different from people not in those programs but who recruit family and friends to help them.

    I think it's important to not just speculate on such things, but to actually go to the academic journals and look up the studies, of which there are dozens, and by now hundreds, addressing the GA versus alternatives success rates. My familiarity with these topics is dated, as my reading took place mostly 20 years ago, but I do not believe many breakthroughs have occurred since, and results have stayed pretty much the same. No magic wand.
     
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  19. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Stab him in the fuckin' eye, or in kewls case start crying uncontrollably. .

    Honestly I can't believe kewl is still bleating about being kicked off an anonymous gambling forum, I mean really, how old are you 8?
    Who gives a fuck after all this time, aren't there other forums you can post and share your professional BJ advice / exploits?

    Big deal an injustice has been done, felt. Sounds like the whole episode has been playing out in your head since the fuck-knows when. I find it hard to imagine this really the most pronounced event to have happened in the last 18 months of your life. It's only a clicky gambling site, for fuck sake get over it and quit being a pussy you drama queen.

    For you to be banging on this long about being booted from a web-site, expecting others to man up and do your bidding, I strongly suggest you analyses and sort out your mommie and daddy issues, as your now, your embarrassing yourself.

    Knock on his door??? WTF

    Hang on, maybe that's a good idea, offer him a blow job, doubt his wife is doin' the chores.
     
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  20. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Yes please,
     
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