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Roulette You can't beat the math, or can you?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Sep 12, 2016.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Bull shit it can. That was a perfect example of variable change which has absolutely nothing to do with Roulette that does not have variable change, because they don't take slots away after each spin. Particles from the primary Isotopes are depleted on decay and dice are removed after each count. That by definition is only possible as variable change. You can't remove past spins from the next spins. The odds are constant.

    Snowman needs to crawl up your ass and teach you the basics. Keep your sophistry out of my threads.
     
  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Yes, I'm in LV several times a year. I'll send you a PM next time I'm headed over there. I'll PM you through wov.
     
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  3. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Wasn't it you who you told people you where dying?
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    Is right fella, you tried were pulling this scamming shit over 5 years ago, and now your broke again, you thought you would do it all over again.

    Do you have a date, old man?
     
  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Your Spandex is looking a little threadbare. We are all dying Junk in the Pants. That Batman and Robin routine will not actually make you happy. You misunderstood the why 5 years ago and you've ridden in on a white horse this time making the very same assumption. That makes you a two time loser. I have one returning student so far. I guess you failed to save that one. Makes you wonder why a scammed person would sign up for it again. Please explain to everyone why you are always right. There is no way on planet earth that you have snowman's problems. You actually insist that you are right. How do you know that you are right? I have not changed in ten years. It's the very same thing, reading randomness, and making an educated guess, nothing more than that. It's not a promise. It's an acquired skill and nothing more. It's not a secret that will be dealt out in parts for an additional fee. All I have done is work on software that makes learning my skill set easy. For use of that I demand compensation. For being instructed how to use it I demand compensation. I see you as a freeloader. You want to carry that badge but you are nothing but a slimy cheapskate, trying to gather other cheapskates for a victims parade. I'm tired of your holy cause. You make unfounded accusations based on the cliche's that have always worked for you in the past. That crap about me being broke. You need that to be the truth don't you? You wouldn't know what rich was if it came up and peed on you. All you have is a big mouth and unfounded accusations. That's not much of a grand achievement for mankind, but unfortunately that is typical of loud mouths like you.
     
  5. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Of course you are broke, you had to sell some family coins to make ends meet and told the world about it. Stupid old lonely man, when should we expect to be rid of another oxygen thief? When is your big date, which you also told us to garner some sympathy (naturally) happening?
     
  6. RouletteGhost

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    Good god.

    This forum is a disgrace

    Its just a place for people to personally attack

    This is bad

    The forum admin sucks

    The funny thing is half of whats said here would never be said by same people in person
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I guess you like being wrong. Boy are you a worthless fuckstick. I took my parents through hospice. I was the caregiver. Those coins where my parent's possessions. The coins sat in a box for over 50 years before they came to me. Spike hunted the sale down on eBay. He told everyone what the meaning of selling meant. That's from a punk just like you that used to sell cheap, worthless watches. It's your source that was the poor bassTurd.

    I told you that I want the legacy of having been correct while shit eating jerks like you get screwed for being corrected. That date will be no later than Christmas and probably sooner. Santa's going to come down your chimney and shove an algorithm sideways up your Kazoo. It's going to rip you a new asshole. Your reputation on these forums will be worthless. You will be persona non grata!
     

  8. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    IMO Scammers are the lowest of the low, preying on the gambling community, worst than welshing on a bet, worst than any sock puppet activity.
    Not matter how he tries to dress it up, only for fame, reveal all and all the bullshit he spins, he is phishing for suckers to send him $200, disguised as teaching, student fees, only in it to eliminate Thorp, the deluded fuck has been at it for years, now any sane person would presume he must have period of being well during that time, when he could have made all the cash he desired. Nope, he was busy teaching some mysterious batch of students none of whom will step forth to confirm, hocking his family jewels.

    For those of us that gamble, will know the battle is with the casinos, the last thing we need is fellow players also trying to dip their monkey paws in our pockets as well. The sooner he fucks off (either way) the better.
     
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  9. RouletteGhost

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    Albalaha phishes for money to

    Told me to save 20,000 then see him

    Thats a joke

    I think if you have something so good you wouldnt need to charge because you could make it easily drom the casino

    Thats why i never ever ever paid a dime for any method

    The only money i spent was a kindle book

    Roulette bookie strategy. And that made me money
     
  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Let's parse that:
    Just because you say I'm a scammer does not make it true. You can stand on your throne and bark all you want. That's your thing.

    Wrong again. I lowered the price to $100 while still making improvements to the teaching software and still answering all questions. How many scammers let all the students talk to each other and to speak about it out of the school. Does that sound like the typical scam to you?

    Interesting mistake this time. Not to eliminate him but to join him.

    You club me over the head long enough and I will finally get it. I get it. It has to be free or it's a scam. If I write a book and it only cost's $19.95 then that is acceptable. H'm, I wonder if $19.95 is too cheep for software that teaches this and a fully written forum that supports it with answers? What price would be fair to me and the students that are there now? $100 is just enough to slow things down. Perhaps $49.95 could keep it just slow enough and also provide a tipping point in the world of gambling too. Everyone here knows I believe what I teach. That's all worthless unless I can get my students to do as well as I can. The Ai project is to confound the beliefs of some probability experts that need to reeducate themselves when it comes to statistics. All this is my selfishness. I want my own Ed Thorp moment. Having a few pests dog me on this forum is just a bunch of noise from the uninformed. They are not scientists and they are not informed as to what I teach. Thorp wrote a book and changed the world. I built a forum that acts as a school. I wonder what $19.95 would do for all of you? I'm busy teach my computer to read randomness. Ten years ago that was total hogwash. All reading randomness is, is that you see characteristics in a chart and you can see them in an instance through visual dexterity. That's alone is a skill. It also gives you time to evaluate the next bet and some other why's.

    Let's see, we left off with deluded fuck.

    That was a good one. You are getting better Junk in the Pants. Actually two have come forward to show learning results. I guess you need to trash them as shills. So, you could actually meet them all. I wonder if your save-the-world-campaign can stoop low enough to spend the price of a book? You are so sure of yourself that you can't do it. Just how cheap are you? I worked very hard on all this. Are you another wheel sucker drafting along in life on others hard work? Spandex boy? Got a grand stand to keep up. Too proud, is that it.
     
  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So this is getting real good. I go online to get the prices off the best authors in Roulette. Ellison's book is $39.99 with many used ones cheaper. John Patrick's books are about $19.95. Kimo Li's books, $19.95. I read Ellison's book. Not much there at all for my tastes. Some people rave about it. John Patrick's book are clueless regarding trends, almost no information that is useful for Roulette. Frank Scoblete's books on Roulette are for bias and VB recommendations. He does not see randomness as an advantage. His book is $14.95. Kimo Li's books are magical thinking at best. Only two authors offer online attention to back up their claims. That goes to John Patrick and his "three and out" forum and Kimo Li that is asking $2,000 for his magical dust. So somewhere between $19.95 and $39.95 all plus shipping of, lets say $5. It looks like $29.95 + $5 for shipping. I can say that the cost of upgrading the software is equal to the shipping. So based on this quick research, $34.95 looks like a fair price to confront the author in front of his students. Being the principle of the school I will throw you out of school if all you want to do is flog your spandex. There has not been one mean, self serving remark in the forum. These students want to know this stuff. I'm teaching them how to deal with Roulette when things get hard. I expect all of them to face the same difficulties in learning as they will face in a real casino. We don't have time for trash talk in this school. I will not allow side issues or off topic things like AP or bias wheels to be part of this schools curriculum. That's what forums like this are for. I can kick you out. It's not a discussion forum. It's the classroom. I had one newbie student that asked a lot of basic questions so this stuff is really clear. Nobody is asking anything but how to bet when it's not working at a certain point. You have to get through the basics to get to the meat and potatoes. That's the best of it.
     
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    I think gizmotron is similar to Rob Singer in that they both believe their system works. Still a scam, they just don't realize it.
     
  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I should know if I can program an advantage play due to reading randomness in about a week. That test run will be for sleeping dozens only. If that works then I will have undeniable proof that it is not a scam. Anyway, at $34.95 it's no longer a scam. It's the price of a book, take it or leave it. It won't be embarrassing if the computer app fails. That's what inventors face every time they set out to do something no one else has done before. It's my own fault for taking it public before the fact. But it does make it more like rock climbing in Yosemite than like sitting on a Ferris Wheel. I'm living large right now. This is sort of exhilarating. I'm closing in on the first test run.
     
  14. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Giz,

    You can run your scams with the other fruitcakes on betselection, but on this forum we will expose your ridiculous claims.

    Reading randomness is an oxymoron.
     

  15. redietz

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    Maybe it's in braille.
     
  16. TurboGenius

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    Yep.
    Those who can - do.
    Those who can't - teach.
    Those who can't do either one are reduced to selling nonsense and dreams to people for $19.95 and they get very upset when anyone comes between them and their potential sales. Laughs
     
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  17. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You are a Narcissistic idiot. The only thing that you have managed to expose in the past ten years is that you are bitter about the new flatter wheels with shallower slots and the disadvantage that they present to you as an AP player, and that you are a cyber stalker to boot. You are a one trick pony. Now in the normal world of people that makes you an anachronistic oxymoronic contrast between you and the real world. I wonder what kind of picture they have for one trick ponies? There is no point talking to you. I just wanted to define you correctly.
     
  18. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sounds like you purchased the magical thinking of Kimo Li. You are doing a fantastic job of ignoring me. I had no idea you were still stuck in phase one of gambling. You left GG as I was showing up. You are the systems crash test dummy of all times. I guess you are making your stand on the law of thirds these days. And you say that you have succeeded at it too. So you are the Zen Master that sells nothing? That makes you a pure man full of wisdom and the right to judge others without any verification other than your wise opinions. Yes, I get you alright. You stand on your soapbox like it's a control freak's command post. Like I said. I didn't know how stupid you were. That caught me by surprise. You are nothing but a system hack. Still stuck after 20 years. Wow, nice going TG. What are you down to now, maybe ten idiots that think you have it figured out? "You can fool some of the people some times..."
     
  19. TurboGenius

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    Lol.
    Isn't that some personality disorder when you feel the need to "define" everyone.
    ==
    "Neurotic individuals do indeed unknowingly engage in projection defenses. But disordered characters know what they are doing. They are fully conscious about what they know others would see as the wrongfulness of their behavior, despite the fact that they might be perfectly comfortable with their course of action themselves. They don’t have enough guilt or shame about what they’re doing to change course. Nor are they so consumed with emotional pain that they must ascribe to others the motivations they can’t tolerate in themselves. Rather, when they blame others for their wrongful acts, it’s simply an attempt to justify their stance by casting themselves as being in a position where they simply had no choice but to respond the way they did. In this way, they simultaneously evade responsibility as well as manipulate and manage the impressions of others. The tactic goes hand in hand with the tactic of portraying oneself as a victim. It’s typically an effective tactic that gets others to pay attention to everyone or everything else except the disordered character and his wrongful behavior as the source of a problem."
    ==
    There ya go - since you like to "define" everyone - Laughs. I figured you out - no charge for this one.
    Next meeting... same time next week, same couch.

    Now "us" on the other hand - simply call it as we see it.
    A scammer sells things instead of using them, and he/she'll always has a reason why they can't or don't use it themselves... All the while proclaiming that they are "helping people" pretending to be in some "teacher role" with "students" when in reality they are just preying on people. Shame. That's you. I know it's rough to take in but someday you'll thank me. You can stop saying I'm on some "throne" - yet another sure sign that my diagnosis is correct.
    If nothing else - I hope you read this post and it sinks in. It might take a few years and some looking "within" - but you'll be a better person for it.
    Cheers.
     
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    I edited this so you can better see your disorder. (from your post above)
    When your posts is cram-packed with You, you, your, you, you, you, etc... it clearly shows
    the root of the problem. It's not too late to make some changes and work on it.
    If I'm on a "throne" as you say - it's because you put me there and clearly this bothers you from your rant.
     

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