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Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by LovePotion9, Sep 5, 2015.

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  1. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    I don't know if he is a troll or not. It seems to me a troll would get right back to work. His absence suggests that he was just asking an honest question.
    The idiots who suggest that he could have found his answer by researching it first are hypocrites . That could be said for any question on any topic. After all these years I am sure there isn't any topic that hasn't been addressed.

    Seems like he behaved like any customer with self respect would act when management of a business treats him like garbage.
    And also I admire and agree with your view of taking a depressant drug (alcohol) when gambling will negatively impact results and should be completely avoided when gambling
     
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  2. freddy

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    Lots going on in the KewlJ thread over there. As much as he wishes the whole KewlJ controversy would just go away, manboy can't help himself from posting and further embarrassing himself and his bosses.

    >>He banned billryan accusing him of having 24 identities all going back to 2009. All the usual morons cheered him on as he basked in his awesome power. But the real moron, once again, is manboy himself. Less than 2 days later he had to eat crow and admit his mistake. Mistake? We all know it was because billryan dared to mention KewlJ...a sore spot with manboy on the heels of probably the worst decision he ever made...on the forum. Who knows what he does off the forum... on his little escapades around town.

    >>Continuing in the same thread, beached whale starts a conversation about masturbation on this 99.9% male dominated board. With kids young enough to be her grandchildren! Isn't that everyone's fantasy on a slow day? To talk masturbation with a 60 year old hag? Granny porn is alive and well on WOV.

    >>Finally this from wizardofnothing. "Who is the pos freddy over there"? Great question. Glad you asked. Freddy is the guy who sees you for the fraud and pathological liar that you are and can say it without fear of repercussion. Your fake WOV friends all see it too but can only whisper it in hushed tones in PM or away from the board.

    Freddy is the guy who can point to your specific lies, fake slot win photos and your ability to be on both coasts simultaneously as you *cough* work. Need more? I'm sure the entire forum would be interested. I'm not that interested in you but we can pursue if you want....on my terms.

    Now run along and assist the beached whale with her new found proclivity.
     
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  3. LovePotion9

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    remember how Spike/EB couldn't stand Jabba the whale before?
    well something happened becuase now he's sucking her dick. Hes now says that he won't read this thread:

    "because of the awful stuff they say about BBB. It's completely out of line and inappropriate."​

    http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/25772-kewlj/18/#post533826

    Really Spike? how about nuking people for no reason other than you don't like them? is that not awful? is that not "inappropriate and out of line?


    and earlier AxelSheep said that Jabba the Whale "is a very nice honest person who's willing to help others". And that "there is no need for the personal stuff"

    Really AxelSheep? So it's not "personal" for Jabba to nuke Exoter, 1BB, Kentry and a ton of others just because they make cogent arguments? that doesn't sound very "nice" or "honest" to me.
    AxelSheep............another one who sucks Jabba's big dick
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


    Then Jabba sucked Spike's tiny pecker back and said this about the people here:

    "a couple of cheeto stained masterbators with spank me Mommy fetishes"​

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    Jabba claims this thread doesn't bother her but you know it does. you know it really gets under her skin when this thread exposes the truth about her. she can't stand it. she can't handle the truth bu she tries to play it off like she can.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  4. MrV

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    I suspect BBB is irked more by the virulence of the personal attacks than by the criticism of her actions as a moderator.

    Criticizing someone because of their physical appearance as opposed to their posts and actions as a moderator is both juvenile and in poor form.

    We are all physically and emotionally imperfect in one way or another; that should be a given, and not a valid issue for criticism on these boards.

    Ideally we should focus on actions and posts, not physical appearance.
     
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  5. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    Just for fun, I decided to take a look at Larry's numbers. Using the "Wayback machine" website I compared some data from April/May 2014 vs today. Since wayback machine take a snapshot of time the trick was to find some days to look at near the end of the day. I found 5 days where the "snapshot" was taken at 10pm or later (near end of day). Member visits on those 5 days were 301, 280, 312, 304 and 281. That is an average of 296, with potential for a few more visits each day because some of the snapshots still had up to 2 hours remaining. So I think it is fair to say an average of 300 member visits per day.

    Currently the average is in the 200 to 210 range most days. So that is a 30-33% decrease in traffic.....for whatever reason.

    Mike can say what he like, but he is a numbers guy and these numbers don't lie. SOMETHING is turning off people to the site, whether that be over moderation, or deemed unfair treatment of respected members, cronyism, or just the general unwelcoming attitude of "If you don't like it, don't let the door hit you in the ass".

    Again, the numbers don't lie......WoV is a site on the decline. Mike obviously doesn't care....he has already had his payday. But you would think the Latest Casino Bonus folks, Josh and Zuga would be concerned about a 33% loss in traffic and the policies and attitude of those running the site that are directly leading to that.

    I suspect if I checked the numbers for Qfit's (norm Wattenberger) blackjack site, I would find similar results. As I said earlier these guys that run these gambling/AP related sites, seem to lose sight that it is the AP's that participate that are the big value to the site. Not to generalize, but these kind of nerdy, numbers, math geek, type guys, that both Shackleford and Wattenberger are, are always lacking in people skills.
     
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  6. freddy

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    Sometimes physical descriptions are necessary for clarity. The tall man...the short woman...the blonde. It's not always to "irk" someone.



    Hag: An unattractive, middle aged (or slightly older) woman. The term is commonly used to describe hysterical or ugly women in positions of power.....NAILED IT!
     
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  7. LovePotion9

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    it's called comedy not criticism. I'm sorry you are unable to dfferentiate between the two
    and pretty much every comedian does it
    I guess Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Robin Williams, ect are "juvenile and in poor form" according to you..............
    even Jabba the Whale herself called the guys here: "a couple of cheeto stained masterbators with spank me Mommy fetishes"
    Is that "juvenile and in poor form" according to you?

    btw notice that no one here complained that Jabba's remark was "juvenile and in poor form"?

    we just laughed it off because its just comedy................................
     
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  8. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    I am going to offer a criticism that I know is not going to be well received here. I wish some of you guys would "lighten up" on the personal attacks. While I am not familiar with everyone here's case or specific circumstances involving WoV, there are some legitimate criticism to be voiced of how different things are/were handled and getting in the gutter just sort of diminishes those legitimate points.

    I get that many of you are frustrated and even hurt, as I am, and feel very disrespected about your treatment at WoV by Mike and other mods. It's easy, and probably natural, to immediately attack in a personal way. I have done that at times myself. :rolleyes: But that is not really my purpose. My purpose is to discuss such treatment and incidents, not that Mike or anyone else is interested in discussion as apparent by Mike, NEVER responding to concerns by any members in the "discussion of suspension list" thread, which apparently is NOT for discussing the suspension list. :eek: He doesn't even show anyone, even current members, the respect of addressing their concerns.

    Now don't get me wrong, I am not looking for some sort of resolution that would allow me to return to WoV. I am over that. My own purpose is too try to emphasize to Mike, how unprofessional his decision was to ban a 4 year contributing member with 3200 posts, not to pat myself on the back, but based on ongoing comments, a pretty respected member, because a friend of his, who isn't even a real member of the site asked him to. Good grief!!!

    Funny thing, privately Mike said, he wished he was never put in this position, but he alone placed himself in the middle. I never asked him to choose sides. I never asked him to ban someone else because I didn't like what they were saying. I never asked him, to enforce some phony "truce" to limit or squash someone else's opinion. He chose to take sides and be most unprofessional.
     
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  9. freddy

    freddy Well-Known Member

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    That's a 2 way street. In the real world very few people are punished for life no matter what they did.

    So how about if THEY lighten up? How about if THEY review all suspensions with fresh eyes and honestly ask themselves why? How about if THEY contact banned members and ask them to hear their side? Didn't think so. How about if THEY let those with minor infractions back...though I have no idea why they would want to.

    Personal insults? Boo freakin hoo. It's all about power and control. The sick, twisted people that run that site want their rules to apply to all sites and when they can't get their own way.....well they're not used to that.

    I can call the President of the United States any name in the book...to his face and it's not a crime as long as I don't threaten. Why do the misfits at WOV think they're so special?
     
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  10. DeMango

    DeMango Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    What is really interesting, and speaks volumes, is the fact that after KewlJ was properly vetted here, no one there has addressed his legitimate complaints. More today. It devolves into talking about "gay cars" and such.
     
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  11. LovePotion9

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    great post Kewlj & thanks for confirming those numbrs about WoV being on the decline
    losing 33% of traffic is inexcusible
    Zuga the Luza has proved he doesn't give a shit about his board.................

    as for "personal attacks" there are none here. at least not from me
    Like I told V the only thing I'm guilty of is comedy. you may not think its funny bu many other people do
    again it's just comedy that's all.

    like when Jabba the Whale called the guys here: "a couple of cheeto stained masterbators with spank me Mommy fetishes"

    did anyone here complain about that being a "personal attack"?
    nope it was just an attempt at comedy albeit a lame one beacuse I dont see how that statement applies to anyone here.
    The only person who is suspected of being a serial masturbator is Wiz Urkel. the guy who only "looks" at asian prostitutes in Macau (wink wink)

    and who the hell is "spank me mommy fetishes" supposed to apply to?
    I think that line acdtually is a more of a window iinto her own twisted life instead of applying to anyone on this forum

    It ain't a secret though how the nickname "Jabba the Whale" came into being.
    just take a look at pix of BBB and Jabba in the Empire Strikes Back
    separated at birth if you ask me.......................................

    I repsect your decision to not partake in such comedy though.
    there's room for both yoour approach and mine.......................
     
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  12. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    True, DeMango. And I thank you for expressing that thought. First reaction over was to say well that's not really him, posting. So I went out of my way, emailed a handful of members that I have email addresses of, as well as posted here assuring that it was me. And then it just kind of fizzled.

    To be honest, I was hoping it might lead to a more productive discussion over there, in which Mike might decide to explain his actions, but it didn't. My goal is not to get people to take sides. I know most have great admiration for Mike. I am not trying to get anyone to side against him, but I was hoping that he might feel compelled to explain his actions, since his explanations in private have been very weak and unsatisfying to say the least. I suspect many are afraid to say too much in light of way things like that get handled.
     
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  13. freddy

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    A confident, well adjusted, normal adult would be more than happy to explain himself. He'd insist on it. They are always harping on transparency over there....it's just another one of their lies.

    A sniveling, narcissistic miscreant will do what we have here. Run and hide like a coward. Don't expect anything to change.
     
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  14. Wizardofnothing

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    Freddy obviously you are disgruntled, and probably frustrated from your lack of success but I've met plenty of members in person, some have even worked for me. Sorry you have no life but anytime you need some money feel free to let me know your location and I'll find some work for you
     
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  15. freddy

    freddy Well-Known Member

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    Name 2.
     
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  16. Wizardofnothing

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    No need to. - I have nothing to prove - you my friend are the one that sound emotionally upset that you were banned from a forum
     
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  17. Mickey Crimm

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    Wizardofnothing, it was shameful the way you guys treated Darkoz over the Plaza Tax Day Promotion. All he did was put up the same information that the Plaza had put up on their website. Hell, the Plaza would have thanked Darkoz for getting that information further out into the public. Darkoz said absolutely nothing about strategy. That was all done by Shack. Shack is the one responsible for the $5 video poker being disqualified when he put up all the information on how to beat the promotion. But what do all the teacher's pets on WoV do? They gave Shack a pass and jumped all over Darkoz. Of course, we all know how WoV is. You have to kiss Shack's ass if you want to keep kissing his ass. You can't very well kiss Shack's ass anymore if you criticize him for his actions and he nukes you. So you posey sniffing swines jump all over Darkoz. You made him your punching bag. Get out of here. Everyone here knows you guys are candy ass clowns that don't have the balls to confront Shack when he is wrong. But you gotta take it out on somebody right? So you guys took it out on Darkoz.
     
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  18. Wizardofnothing

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    You actually are wrong about that I was out at lunch with wiz and told him he was wrong and I didn't agree with it- he actually missed the play himself because of it - but I spoke my mind. My issue with dark oz- which has since been resolved between myself and him is that he would not have posted that info if it was a play he was going to partake in- that was my only beef
     
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  19. Juciejacob

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    Is there no way to PM on here??? I would like to have a discussion with someone about something.
     
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  20. Admin Team

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    To unlock the PM feature, Registered users need to have been a member for at least 30 days, have at least 300 messages, and invite at least 1 member. Likewise with Signatures. However, a user with the PM feature enabled can contact you and you will be able to reply to them privately.
     
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