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Thank you admin for the speedy response. I will wait 30 days unless Freddy would like to send me a PM.

 

LP9

It wasn't your posts I had in mind when I posted my little screed.

BTW, one man's comedy is another's horror show.

 

Go ahead and post it....no secrets here.

 

I believe the new owner of the board could give a rat's ass as to whether WoV declines or thrives.

C'mon, would he have paid over two million primarily to buy control of a board that had three hundred registered visitors a day?

That's chump change.

If the new owner felt these issues substantially affected his bottom line he'd implement some changes.

The board will continue to careen until it rights itself or sinks, with a "hands off" attitude from the new owner.

His bread and butter is internet gambling, and that subject rarely comes up at WoV.

 

I was going to earlier today but decided against it for a specific reason. I know that is pretty vague but I have a reason for not posting. Maybe I will put it out there but right now I don't feel inclined to do so.

 

Mr v//// of all people I am surprised you hold this particular opinion. After all it was you that with humor hurled the schizophrenic tag at Alan M. Mental illness is a serious issue...Some would say even more tragic than someone who let's themselves turn into an obese blob.
The Beached whale came up with a unique view of that incident...she said if ALAN was insulted by that....it's his problem..because he chose to be insulted.

So Beached whale set the precedent. Someone on her "good "list can hurl an insult and it's the recipients fault if they if they choose to be offended.

Husband of the year posted a dumb blonde joke and no one complained.

So let's get the rules straight ....demeaning blonde women and the mentally ill are acceptable .... but obesity is off limits.

Kind of arbitrary....wouldn't you think?

If you or her are offended.....well let's just use the Alan m. Defense......you choose to be offended.....that's your problem not mine.

Through out history...people in power have been lampooned...especially those that abuse power

 

my apologies to you then sir

 

looks like freddy is really pissing off the people at WoV

good job freddy lol

 

LarryS:

IIRC, I raised the issue of Alan having "schizophrenia" as one of approximately six possible explanations in a poll I posted for his baffling insistence that he actually saw someone do the seemingly impossible: throw eighteen yo's in a row at a craps table.

I did not claim he was schizophrenic, but those who opted for that choice in the poll expressed that opinion.

I've known Alan for years through the boards, I am aware of his need for attention, but I've never seen such an unbelievable claim advanced by him.

He's posted his share of silly stuff, but that assertion made by him with a straight face was so outlandish, so bizarre, that I suspected something was wrong with his powers of observation and retention.

He's had some serious medical issues (transplants): perhaps that has affected his cognitive powers.

A mental health issue would be a possible explanation, and should not automatically be dismissed as insulting.

He felt insulted, did he?

He insulted the intelligence of the group with his ridiculous claim, and if he thinks he actually saw it, he's flat wrong and needs professional help, or else he's lying.

Why is questioning someone's mental health deemed insulting?

If you have a compound fracture of the femur with a bone sticking out and I note "you need to see a doctor, your physical health seems to require it," no insult would be found, but question someone's mental health due to their conduct or claims and they go ballistic.

Hello, double standard.

As for demeaning women: there is a difference between an obvious joke and a derisive description such as "beached whale," "Jabba" and the like.

I am not asking that anyone stop posting such things, this board allows it and a free discussion is typically a good thing: it's just that it is a more impressive accomplishment to cogently critique one's ideas than their personal appearance.

Sort of like the difference between high school and elementary school.

 

The plaza thing was complete bullshit. We all did PM darkoz about the thread he made but none of us (at least I didn't) get a response from him.

Any AP knows what's going to happen in a thread like that -- people are gonna start talking and discussing the best way to play it. Fortunately, it seemed like everyone was sucked into the drama especially after hearing the $5 machines got taken out, that people didn't take a look at other machines and talk about the next-best game to go after. There's a reason why there's certain information you rarely see posted....it's not something that should be talked about. Ya can't find much information about HC'ing, ST'ing, sequencing, first-carding, along with a multitude of machine plays online. Talking about those things (in detail) is not appropriate. Secrets of the trade. Freddy and LarryS as non-APs, you're probably really confused about all that. I'm just surprised that actual AP's and people on our side (like darkoz, Mike, and apparently mickeycrimm) would want to disperse such damaging information.

Not only did it hurt us APs who were going to play it, it hurt other people that were going to help us out, people who really need the money. They were excited to come help us and get paid some decent money they needed. Now what, we tell them it's off and they're mad because we got their hopes up? The next time something like this shows up, people are going to do the same stupid shit again and ruin a play because people never learn to keep their damn mouths shut.

This isn't the first time this has happened....but in other cases, PM'd the person who wrote up the information and asked for it to be removed...and sure enough, the person was respectful and removed the information. Tried to do that with darkoz....but he didn't want to. (BTW, he wants to write a book about his adventures in AP....hopefully that will never happen.)

 

Alan knows VERY LITTLE about gambling but makes himself out to seem like he knows quite a bit. Most recently (on vegascasinotalk forum), he analyzed a WOV post about some guy winning $1300 or something on a 40-minute roll, concluded it was not possible to win that little. Yet, he goes off into fairy tail land and pretends he saw 18 yo's in a row or his son hit 4 royals (on single line VP) in 24 hours.

He pretends like he actually wants to have a discussion about AP, then dismisses it because he's not an AP, isn't willing to travel, etc. and that the information is not useful to him for whatever reason...and treats that to mean AP isn't possible or some messed up logic. I'm just glad he's not on WOV anymore spewing his nonsense bullshit. He should'a been banned, but him not posting is good enough.

 

Since a vast majority of the people reading the poll had zero medical background...then to claim you were sincerely asking for a diagnostic opinion is rather disingenuous .
I doubt you or the other
People responding to the poll researched the symptoms of that disease state.
Most people who have transplants do not have schizophrenia ..so bringing that up has no real connection .
you are trying to tap dance in quicksand if you are making that connection

no mr.v.. it was simply an amusing quip with no real serious seeking of a real diagnostic opinion from health professionals. Just a passive way of calling him crazy. I ts a novel way to get a dig in...nothing more nothing less. Never was it ever viewed by people viewing it as an Ernest seeking of a medical diagnosis. It was just poking fun using a serious mental disease as a device .

Using a serious mental disease as a device to insinuate that someone is crazy or using obesity as a device ....no real difference

Lampooning someone's mentally ill like behavior or someone's size is undifferentiatable//
you may want to think you are better...but that's the hypocrisy of you entire observation.
I think it's worse to use mental illness as a punchline to a mocking joke ..because people with these serious brain disorders have them through no fault of their own

 

Alan isn't "banned" in the sense that he cannot return.

He voluntarily exiled himself and is eligible to return.

Oh, LarryS: my intent was not to lampoon him by offering that choice, it was to try and figure out where he was coming from.

Either it happened, or he lied, or he imagined it.

No other choices.

In discussing the possibility of door number three I posited one possible explanation.

"Schizophrenia" was probably a poor choice: "mental health issue" may have been better.

 

So you prefer jabba.the whale over Beached whale. You are a man of principles

 

OK then "Beached whale" is not as good a choice as LP9 's/ jabba.the the whale. You seem to enjoy that one more. I will take that under advisement

 

Huh?

I don't "prefer" or "enjoy" either: you're twisting things.

No, I just think it is significantly less of an accomplishment to mock someone's physical appearance than it is to analyze and criticize their writings.

 

My opinion of Alan Mendelson is he is a dumb stupid ignorant son of a bitch who disguises himself as an educated person. He pushes his dumb stupid ignorant bullshit on the masses as if he is an expert. That guy is dumber than a box of rocks when it comes to gambling. But he gets to push his reputation on the masses and some of them dumb ass sons of bitches are going to follow him because of his "Journalist" reputation. Mendelson has no clue about positive expectation gambling. He does great harm to society by (1) By his journalist reputation their are plenty of dumbass sons of bitches that will follow this ignorant bastards style of gambling (2) Mendelson actually believes in his dumbass style of gambling.

A famous false prophet is the most dangerous son of a bitch in the world. Mendelson is the most famous dumbass gambler I have ever seen. And he teaches his dumbass shit to the masses. The motherfucker should be horsewhipped.

 

You take it like a man, Shack. I know you are a secret lucker of this site. You are a dead man walking. You sealed your fate when you created that suspension list and called it your "hall of shame." Who the fuck are you to judge? Did you just appoint yourself? Do you think you have the right to put people's names up on the internet on a board called "the wall of shame?" Do you really think you hold that right to disgrace people at your whim? Shack you are going to take my name off your wall of shame. And guess what else, Shack. You are going to take everybody off your shame list. You are the shame, punk.

Guess what, Shack, you little bitch. If I ever see you in person I'm just gonna start popping 44 caps in your ass. Do you know why, Shack? Because I'm self appointed just like you.

 

This plead was longer, so I edited it since the begging point is all that matters.

“After much thinking and discussions with others, I have swallowed my pride and taken out my tin cup. If you look at the bottom of the site, just to the right of my name, you'll see a link that says "Donate." That will lead you to this page. Similar buttons appear on my Odds and Macau sites.

The last time I was in financial trouble and asked for donations the number of people in the entire world that made one was two. I'm hoping to beat that record this time.

Thank you for your consideration.

For those who have read this appeal and still won't donate, the question for the forum is why not?”



This was written by the person we were told to believe is one of the masters of gambling math, and considered one of the top AP’s. After all he even had several web sites all dedicated to gambling. Maybe he should have made new plans for the future after his first plea only got two donations.

I know he allegedly claims he lost something like 80K in Greece or whatever nonsense with the banks and EU mess. By the way, if I ever wanted to see proof of anything that loss would be on the top of my list. Besides, if an 80K loss at his age takes you into the poor house; it should have been obvious that working for a living might have been a better option then gambling.

Another thing that concerns me is why all the other masters of the AP’ing gambling universe who benefited from the masters advice and web-sites making great living’s doing this, didn’t just swoop in and bail the guy out. After all, it should only be temporary. What happened to the saying three strikes before your out? Is there a secret code amongst AP’s to never help another gambler out? I guess most know they’ll probably never see it again? All they did was throw him a couple hundred here and there (which would be considered scraps to anyone over 16 yrs. Old) and then had the nerve to go on the site and blow their own horns how they helped the guy out with their generous donations. Did anybody over there actually realize how petty this whole thing made everyone look like who talks all this endless shit there?

It’s one thing to talk about playing casino games giving people the best chance of stretching their bankroll out giving them a better chance of getting lucky; it’s another to blow smoke up everyone’s ass about how freaken smart you are and how you and only a select gifted few are capable of walking into a casino and just picking money off a tree being grown just for your gifted intelligence.

AP’ing without doubt exists, that argument is closed. Just be more honest about it like Kewlj is. I’m sure Kewlj has the talent to win lots more and has the bankroll to do it. The problem is he won’t get away with it for long in today's casinos. He constantly has to work hard and make certain he plays under the radar. He loves playing BJ and is happy with his limited income. Good for him, but not certain why everyone looks at his accomplishments like he’s a rock star.

Yet, there are claims of AP’s making more than lawyers (probably not that hard to do) and living the dream life. If finding and chasing plays and jackpots all over the country is living the dream, I could only imagine what your hell would look like.

Personally, I think most of the people there are problem gamblers still trying to make something out of it, and will inevitably end up with their own tin cup in hand. Like I just said, “most” not all.

I understand the animosity here directed to that site. None of these arguments could take place there when a site is in complete denial. Put a bunch of degenerate gamblers together and that’s what you’ll usually end up with. Lies ... Denial ... Bullshit

If the online gambling stars didn’t all align over the gifted ones head I’m certain he would have been long gone by now. Another thing I would love to know is the true facts about the alleged two million he was paid for it. I would need to know how it will eventually be disbursed to him before I call it a good deal or a windfall. When your holding out a tin cup, smart business people that want what you have swoop in and usually kick you while your down. Regardless of these unknown facts, at least at this point it looks like he still gets to gamble and pretend he still has gifted gambling talents.

 

Great post about AlanM,right on the money.He's clueless about gambling.