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Discussion in 'Las Vegas Forum' started by RobSinger, May 27, 2022.

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  1. redietz

    redietz Well-Known Member

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    Three comments on the above:

    1) Singer is one of those clowns who play at gambling. He proclaims that he did something based on the premise that it was possible. Not that he did it or has actual evidence that he did it, but that it was possible. It's possible that I dated Angelina Jolie, Raquel Welch, and Lady Gaga, and all in one night. But I don't go on forums nonchalantly telling people that I did it. Singer's argument for the last so many posts is that it's possible to win 68% of NFL games ATS picking five games a week for two years. Never mind that nobody has dated Anglelina Jolie, Raquel Welch, and Lady Gaga all in one night. It can't be proven that I didn't do it, so I come on forums and say I did.

    2) I didn't say that what he claimed to have done at LVA was impossible. LOL. I said I'd lay $500 to his signed dollar bill for him to do it for one season. In fact, I stated directly to Boz in the posts above that I figured the odds were 3000-1 he could do it this season, so the 500-1 I was offering was an advantage play for me. In other words, I never said it was impossible. I said no public handicapper had ever done two seasons with those rules ATS. And I said the odds against Singer doing it for one season were ballpark speculation 3000-1. So Singer saying that I said it was "impossible" is a LIE. He lied again. He lies again and again and again.

    3) I was married. My wife died. Now could I post a marriage certificate and a death certificate? Yes, I could. Or I could steer people to my hometown of Frackville, PA, since my late wife and I were both from Frackville. Or I could recommend one of the simple investigative sites to examine my personal history. That might cost thirty bucks. But I won't do any of the above except suggest people visit Roman's Lounge in Frackville because it's a great place and Frackville is a nice little town. Ask the owner if he knows Bob Dietz and ask away from there.

    Can you imagine posting that you did things based on the premise that it's not impossible?

    Jon Lovitz Appears as the Pathological Liar on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show - YouTube
     
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  2. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    How is Rob supposed to know you ever had a wife? He's supposed to take the word of some yahoo that posts under a phony screen name? Aren't you a porter at the Horseshoe in Tunica? The TITO bullshit ain't like the old days of sweeping up nickels and quarters is it?
     
  3. MDawg

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    The imposter on Tater's obituary wall is BeachedWhale.
     
  4. coach belly

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    It's often difficult to get information, or a straight answer, from the ditz.

    I skimmed back through some of this thread, and could not find a quote from Singer to corroborate your claim below...

    Maybe I missed it, or maybe the ditz is actually the one lying here.

    Let's find out....Mr Ditz, please post the quote corroborating your above claim.
     
  5. KewlJ

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    Can I ask how you are certain enough of this to make this accusation?

    Writing that garbage on the obit wall was a really low thing whoever did it. I see that at least one real friend of Kevin Keen posted on that wall and it just is really a shitty thing that real friends and family of the man had to read that kind of forum trolling crap on the man's obituary. It is confirmation of what fucked up people are on these forums.

    But, I think most of us have now moved on from this. It has been 2 weeks since we were informed of Moses/tater's passing and he actually passed several weeks before we were informed.
     
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  6. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    Now moving on...Mdawg, you mentioned you were interested in selling some promo chips. Can I ask what kind of chips? Most promo ships are now single play chips, meaning they take the chip win or lose. If the wager wins they still take the promo chip but pay the winning amount. This makes the chips worth less than 50% of face value (similar to matchplay).

    In addition, I am wondering how the purchaser knows he would be able to use the promo chips bought? I am sure the pit would want to see a players card from the person using the chips and that account will not show any promo chips awarded to that person.
     
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  7. MDawg

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    I posted quite a lot about this at WOV today. Actual promo chips may not be traced back to anyone, any more than actual regular casino chips. Free play slips obviously do have the player's information printed on them, but all the times I have used them or seen others use them, no staff have bothered to look at them closely.

    I suppose if someone shows up day after day with tons of promo chips and is not a known player, some issue may arise as to where he got them.

    Lately almost all of the chips I get are play until you lose, but sometimes I get free bet (one bet only) chips.

    I saw what looked like an indirect offer from AxelWolf to "bring 'em" at 95 cents on the dollar and I said, sure, I'll sell mine for that.

    I also noticed a post by jbjb somewhere about how promo chips are same as cash. I'd expect him to be imprecise because the guy has been playing for - how many years? and still hasn't managed to come up with his own bankroll, still is tied to a crew - because no, promo chips are not the same as regular chips not the same as cash in that they may be used for even money bets only at the tables.
     
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  8. KewlJ

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    JBJB's comment was that "use until you lose promo chips" are the same as cash. But really most promo chips today are not reusable (use until you lose), but rather single play chips, which means they take the promo chip win or lose. Maybe at your higher level of play, it is different. I wouldn't know that.

    Anyway Axel's offer of 95% was about machine free play. There are a number of differences between machine free play and table game prom chips. One of the more important ones for anyone purchasing would be the interaction with casino personnel. Tables games there is obviously interaction with dealer and pit. Machines much less so. It is that interaction that makes purchasing someone else's play, somewhat risky.
     
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  9. MDawg

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    Almost all of the chips I get these days are promo chips (play until you lose). But even those aren't the same as regular chips because they may be used only for even money bets, so jbjb's statement is imprecise - but, I'd expect him to not know exactly what he is talking about, is my point.

    AWolf makes a lot of offers that he backpedals out of. Such as when he offered $5500. for the Wizard's Audemars watch, sight unseen, then later weaseled out of it by clarifying that he would follow through "only if it's a good deal."

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    AWolf reneges on irrevocable $5500.watch offer.

    In any case, he's a big boy he may speak for himself, as far as his saying that 95 cents on the dollar for free play is something no one should pass up.
     
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  10. KewlJ

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    Mdawg, you seem to be all about challenges and trying to get members you don't like suspended or worse. I know you have this "challenge" to Axelwolf, about you never claiming to have said you didn't play with an advantage. I know I asked that question of you more than a dozen times on multiple forums. Most of the time, you didn't answer, but I swear a couple times you said "no". It would take a week to go back looking through 10's of thousands of posts on 4 different forums.

    But here is the thing, you most certainly implied that you were not playing with an advantage with your statement like "betting up into streaks" and many voodoo type statements about money management, and quitting while a head and that kind of thing. Maybe that was all you just misleading people. If that is the case, that is just as bad.

    Now if you are now claiming that you play to some kind of advantage, 1) it would have to be a pretty big advantage to account for the reports you posted, at one time 102 winning days out of 104. I mean no small advantage that most AP's play to, will achieve that kind of results. You would probably need a 10% advantage or better, something along the lines of hole-carding.

    and 2) if you are or were indeed playing to such a large advantage to achieve the results you claimed, you are a damn fool for having posted about it in such detail on multiple forums. The casino(s) would easily be able to identify you. As a matter of fact, I KNOW that they can and have.

    This brings us full circle, back to the casinos, especially in Las Vegas, are just not going to allow a player to play as much and for as long as you claim and just keep winning. THAT is NOT how this industry works. Eliot Jacobson relayed a story about being called in to analyze a player's play that had won for a couple years. BUT that player wasn't living in a suite and playing every day for several years. It was just a handful of trips over those couple years and yet the casino was still looking to put a stop to it. The totality of the play you claim is probably 20 times that player that Eliot was called in to evaluate. There is just no way, a casino, or even several casinos would allow you to do what you claim.

    Please note, the respectful tone of my post, with no name calling ect. Hope you will respond in kind.
     
  11. KewlJ

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    I am trying hard to be respectful here, but a big part of the problem with your claims or story as you tell it, are now the ever-changing story or claims. Shades of Rob Singer.
     
  12. MDawg

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  13. beachedwhale

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    Cool story bro but Sherlock Holmes you ain’t. I’m not even going to bother with debating it other than to point out again I never had any issue or disagreement with Tater. But hey, like I said to Crumm, if you want to think it was me I don’t give a fuck. LOLZ
     
  14. RobSinger

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    So many words (again)....so little said.

    Dating a bunch of celebrities has nothing to do with whether it's mathematically possible or not.

    And you wonder why you're seen as weird?

    Now to the possibly fake "wife". If you really had one or really thought you did, I feel bad for either one
     

  15. KewlJ

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    In his quest to get Axelwolf suspended at WoV, between the hours of 8am and 6:30 pm, Mdawg has made 31 posts at WoV, 4 here, plus an addition 3 PM's to me here, explaining how he is on the case of the Moses obit wall issue. 38 posts every few minutes, during a business day of a guy who claims to be a working attorney. :rolleyes:

    That is all folks. Carry on.
     
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  16. KewlJ

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    Here is the "undeniable truth about Mdawgs claims": (get it Rob....undeniable truth?)

    Asked many times by Axelwolf, myself and others as to whether he was playing with an advantage, mostly Mdawg did not answer, but I believe there are at least a couple times he did deny playing with an advantage. Axelwolf and at least two other members at WoV, remembers that, so I am pretty sure he said it somewhere. I just am not going to spend days searching through 20,000 posts, on 4 different forums, to find it.

    Now whether he actually did say it or not, almost doesn't matter. All the things he said during the past several years, like "betting into streaks", "quitting while ahead" and other complete voodoo concepts is the same thing. And if he said these voodoo type comments intentionally to mislead people, then he should be punished for that. 20 some members at WoV have been suspended, some banned permanently, some left on their own accord, after being suspended. If that all occurred because he intentionally mislead people, shame on him and double shame on Shackleford for being a part of this and continuing to be a part of this.

    And while Mdawg now has his sights on getting Axelwolf suspended and Shackleford is likely to go along, that will not change the bigger issue, which is the high end strip casinos would not allow a player to live in their suites for 90% of the days of the last 2 years, while winning hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars. THAT simply is not the way this industry works.

    So this dude can cry to Shackleford all he wants, and demand Shackleford suspend this person or that, or ban this person, or ban someone from his thread, but it changes nothing. What this guy claims defies the math, as he tells it, and defies the way the Las Vegas casino industry works.

    Mdawg, I know you think you are scoring a win here, you are not. More and more people see through your BS and see your story change every day now. I don't even think there is one person left that really believes this so called "adventure". Long past time to give it up.
     
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  17. RobSinger

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    Looks like kew wants more attention again :)

    Hey red--was Buffalo a lousy, impossible pick? Is 90-0 possible??
     
  18. RobSinger

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    You are such a big crybaby. Only a fairy could fill that roll. "The industry doesn't work that way" and "the casinos wouldn't allow that to happen" and "that's not the way the math works" waaa....waaa....waaa.

    Just enjoy the story he tells, true or not. He HAS posted many interesting pictures, and his exploits seem to have pleasantly surprised wizard. Are you THAT concerned over the attention he gets? So you get your feelings hurt easily. Just go to a NAMBLA bath house for a squirt.

    You're such a weak loser kew....an embarrassment to your already embarrassing generation.
     
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  19. KewlJ

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    On this we can agree Ron. He has posted interesting pictures (although I can do without the food, especially half eaten pictures). And even his "tale" of a higher end player and the comps they get is very interesting to me and I am sure many others. If only he had been honest, saying yeah, I lose a little more than I win, overall, but I play the comp game well, and get the max comps for my play.

    I also might remind you of the things you said about him. I am not going to quote, but just go back to the "adventure" thread at VCT and read what you wrote in the early days. For once, you were correct and now have flip flopped to be wrong.....The story of your life, I presume.
     
  20. RobSinger

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    Maybe you're getting it this time. What MDawg says he does, doesn't affect my or anyone else's life one bit--except for you for some strange reason. And it's all because, OBVIOUSLY, you have no meaningful real life outside of the BS fantasy one you like to project to everyone on forums.

    Just accept it for what it is--true or not. Regardless of all the proclamations about MDawg that different personalities make on the forums, they're nothing more than strong opinions because none of them has walked in his shoes. None of them but wizard of course, who formed an opinion and approach about the guy going forward that, since it isn't in-tune with your biased belief system, you've been making a fool out of yourself everywhere continuously.

    If you simply learned to mind your own business and tended to the things going on in your warped life, you'd feel a whole lot better. Instead, you get constantly ridiculed, laughed at, and banned, and all it gets you is a free-pass to the "infuriated section" as MDawg continues on with the reporting of his adventures while other readers either take it or leave it...like you should've learned to do long ago.

    You are a case study in How To Waste A Life.
     

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