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Discussion in 'Las Vegas Forum' started by RobSinger, May 27, 2022.

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  1. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    That is your response? That is a mighty weak response to a detailed account of 141 posts and 7 months of your BS in which you got caught lying. :cool:

    So the guy that repeats almost daily these quotes taken out of context, doesn't like it when I point out 7 months and 141 posts of reports that were lies.

    You better get used to it because each and every time you post one of these stupid quotes taken out of context, I am going to repeat your 7 month, 141 post lie. AND if the mood strikes I may even create some accounts to post it at WoV a half dozen times.

    I am sorry (not really) if the facts destroy your 3 year running fiction-fantasy nonsense.
     
  2. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    MDawg trip reports from March 15, 2021 thru October 24, 2021. 141 reports. 127 winning sessions, 9 losing sessions, 5 even sessions. GRAND TOTAL WON $1,057,725

    The following day, on October 24, 2021, Mdawg wrote that he had met with Michael Shackleford (Wizard) and said "Additionally we went over my Baccarat wins and losses this trip and I’d say that I might be about even, or slightly up or down at Bacc".

    $1,057,725 reported won in 141 reports over 7 months disappeared in one sentence.
     
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  3. jbs

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    • Violation of Rule #1: Be Respectful
    The TRUTH is....

    MDAWG IS A COMPLETE, LYING, PIECE OF ARAB TERRORIST SHIT!!!!
     
  4. MDawg

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    Others have figured it out. But not the UNKewl one!
     
  5. coach belly

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    He struggles with use of the word "might"....struggles mightily, one might say.
     
  6. MrV

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    We "figured out" douchedawg long ago: "Nothing to see here..."
     
  7. KewlJ

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    "Mights", "maybe's" and "make-believe" is all you people have.

    Look, gambling is about math. Winning at gambling (longterm) is about math.

    When someone comes along claiming 127 winning sessions, out of 141 with profits of over a million dollars, they should be expected to explain the math. If they aren't willing to do that, they really shouldn't make any claims. In Mdawg's case he wasn't even willing to say if he was doing anything that gave him a mathematical advantage. Like many things throughout this story he has now changed that and says he is but can't say.

    Now people can say what they want about me and they do and will, but I can explain the math behind what I do that gives me an advantage and jives with amounts that I talk about. The difficult part about what I do isn't the math. It is figuring out how to apply it and still be welcome back to play again. That is mostly about limits that are tolerated and shorter sessions that create less bigger wins that someone has to answer for. And even all that, I have explained in detail, too much detail for my own good, what I do and how I do it.

    A person just can't say, I win at this -EV game long term and refuse to even say if they are playing with an advantage, let alone how. Not if you want to be credible and taken seriously. If you are trying to be a joke like Evenbob claiming 80% wins at roulette or Singer claiming, "special plays" and machines talking to him, sure, but if you want to be credible your claims can't defy the math.

    And that is all this really is to all of this. Mdawg, Singer, anyone that comes along. Your claims have to meet the low bar of being explained by math. And if and when they don't people have every right to challenge them. The fact that these people always immediately go to name calling and attacking anyone challenging their claims on math or lack of math, says all that really needs be said.

    So don't give me your "mights", "maybe's" and "make-believe", when it is about MATH.
     

  8. KewlJ

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    In addition, Mike Shackleford is about the math. He is recognized as a gambling math expert. His forums WoO/WoV are supposed to be based on the mathematics of gambling.

    So a guy shows up at WoV, with claims unsupported by math, and has an agreement, an NDA even, with Shackleford that Wizard wont express his math based opinion? What kind of nonsense is that?
     
  9. coach belly

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    Jacobson got hired to explain a baccarat player's 10+ million dollar win over 3 years.

    His explanation was that the guy got lucky. Duh.

    Do you suppose that the casino cut him off from comps during his winning steak, before or after consulting Jacobson?

    Isn't that how you insist things work?

    What did Shack post that makes you think he has a math-based opinion on what he witnessed, or for any of MDawg's play?

    Did TinCup ever explain the math behind busting out on AP himself?

    Maybe it's easier for him to hide behind the NDA, than admit that he is stumped.

    Maybe that's why he's known as the Weak Wizard on GF.
     
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  10. coach belly

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    Have you considered that MDawg's "I might be" was not for you?

    Maybe that's why you can't figure out what's going on, you make believe everything is about or somehow involves you.
     
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    Rusty Shackleford, Weak Wizard, Shank, Dweeb, Dork, Nerd, wannabe dicktator etc...all fitting.
     
  12. KewlJ

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    As usual, I believe you are misrepresenting this event and I suspect intentionally so.

    The time period of 3 years, represents far less actual play than Mdawg is claiming. If I am not mistaken it was a total like 10 or 12, 2-3 day trip over those 3 years. But I have a email in to Eliot to confirm. I have asked him how that total amount of play compares to Mdawgs, now 2 years of multi-million dollar play. We will see what he has to say.
     
  13. coach belly

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    You are once again misrepresenting your contrivance as fact, since you don't know how many hands each played, or their average bet.

    Isn't that how you calculate your expectation...it's based on the number of hands played?

    Do you, or Jacobson, know how many hands MDawg has played?
     
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  14. KewlJ

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    Coach Belly, I can't for the life of me figure out why you insist on defending and supporting these folks that make up these claims that defy math?

    Take your hero Mdawg for example. Not only did he get caught lying in this 141 days of posting winnings of over a million, but that wasn't even his first time. Do you remember Mdawg starting a thread claiming to have won 60 hands of blackjack in row, only to back peddle months later when all the math guys, including Wizard weighed in on just how impossible that would be?

    I am pretty sure Wizards comments would be just a damning if he were allowed to make them regarding Mdawg's entire claim.

    Why have you not asked yourself if these claims were true, why would Mdawg need a NDA preventing wizard from voicing his expert opinion.

    Again, WoV is supposed to be a forum about gambling, based on gambling math, by someone who is regarded as an expert in gambling math. Why would someone like this Mdawg go to such a forum make the claims that he has and not allow the very gambling expert to state his opinion? What kind of nonsense is that?

    I mean, I fault Shackleford for agreeing to that (NDA). I think he was played by Mdawg. But just ask yourself why Mdawg would even request that if his claims were true?
     

  15. KewlJ

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    We can estimate from his reports. He usually has stated how many shoes. You opened this discussion today, holding Professor Jacabson out as an expert witness, so lets just see what he has to say. Seems like you are already attempting to discredit him before he has even weighed in, I suspect because you know what he is likely to conclude.

    It is time you stop playing these games coach belly. Let's get to the truth of this.
     
  16. KewlJ

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    Just curious as to whether you are actually speaking for Mdawg now? Is this the "official" Mdawg position....that he has just been lucky for 2 years now? I have never, ever seen anything suggestion that in the 141 trip reports of this discussion, NOR the years worth since.
     
  17. coach belly

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    Damning in what respect?...since you're so sure of what his comments would be.

    What has Shack posted that leads you to conclude that he would be damning?

    Do you know the terms of the NDA? Does it apply to anything beyond the darkoz session?

    Nobody can "not allow" Shack to state his opinion. Whatever is going on, Shack accepted and agreed to it.
     
  18. coach belly

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    I don't recall your estimate...what is it?

    How am I attempting to discredit Jacobson? I reported what he posted, and I agreed with his assessment.
     
  19. KewlJ

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    Stop playing stupid coach belly. That is all you ever do. Thats why people stop treating you like a normal person, because you just play games.

    If you remember, sometime last year Mike did state exactly what he though. If was up for....I don't remember 6-12 hours, before it was removed by Mike because Mdawg had "reminded" him that it violated the agreement. Shackleford then went on to suspend himself.

    I didn't screenshot, what he wrote, I wish I had, but yes it was pretty damning. Mike stated in no uncertain terms what he thought.
     
  20. coach belly

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    Jacobson wrote that his big player got lucky.

    I'm not aware that he reviewed MDawg's play to the same degree, or any degree.
     

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