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Misc The VCT Thread!

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by Karen Nathan, Sep 23, 2019.

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  1. oopsididitagain

    oopsididitagain Active Member

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    Yeah, sure, Druff got a lot of such complaints in the "minutes" before he deleted the supposed spam messages. No one seems to have had the time to read it. Funny too how this sort of thing never happened there, before, but, only when Druff wrote that he found you two guys believable. Anyway, Dan lied by claiming that it goes on at other forums, is possible everywhere else. Now I question even the number of members/guests viewing any given thread. The WoV thread usually has about 30 or 40 visitors at a time, even when not posted in for weeks.
     
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  2. redietz

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    Most of the above is likely incorrect.

    To quote Daniel Negreanu, the number of people making their living playing tournaments is about the same number as birds with lips. Income is dependent on sponsorships, partnerships, and carving out a respected media presence, which Witteles has done. Therefore, blatantly lying in public about his record could have direct effects on both the public's perception of his credentials and his income.
     
  3. oopsididitagain

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    Negreanu didn't make the statement in the middle of a poker game on tv, let alone to parody Dan, himself, in terms of Dan talking about himself. Anyway, I didn't know that Dan, err, Todd, existed until my time on VCT. Who gives a shit about Todd, some guy with a couple of wing-ding forums, a radio/podcast show, and a lot of misperceived $10 trouble with hotels, etc? I guess that he goes back months to delete dissenting posts from old threads, and beyond, to preserve some of that perception, and credentials, because he isn't getting them anywhere else.
     
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  4. coach belly

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    I'm not wrong...Druff wrote 25 messages, you lied and wrote 25 different people, and you continued lying about it.

    Druff's cover story is obviously "evolving". He claimed to have quickly deleted 50 records, without personal knowledge of the content. After some time had passed following his actions, and having read the lie that 25 different members received the same message, he declared that each of the deleted records corresponded to a different recipient, and not that multiple messages were sent to a handful of members.

    But even if only 25 different members were involved, someone with Druff's experience with forums and spam, would not have concluded that MDawg was spamming, nor that his exclusive volley of messages qualified as spam.

    That's not the way things work. He's bluffing.
     
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  5. MDawg

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    Dandruff Man's story (and yes, it IS evolving) doesn't make sense on any responsible forum leader's level.

    If he's in such a hurry that he doesn't care about what's going on (which, that's the type of person he seems to be), then why react at all to a few people who supposedly complained?

    And if he does care, why would he take the word of a few people (again, his story) and immediately jump to delete every single PM I sent that day, without reading them? That action, jumping to delete all PMs in a heartbeat is the action of someone who could care less about whether he's doing the right thing or not, and if so...why take any action at all?

    And let's not forget that notwithstanding his claim that he didn't read the PMs, he knew what was in them, and posted publicly about their exact content.

    At the end of the day too, this action of DanDruff man doesn't jibe with the established fact that he really doesn't care about most anything going on at his forum, and generally takes days to respond to anything going on...and yet, he jumped on something as trivial as some PMs suggesting that people vote against UNKewlJ on a forum poll?
     
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  6. RobSinger

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    Dan has shown he lied about the MDawg episode and thought he could just explain it away with computer horseshit. He got caught, so kew tried coming to his rescue with an empty bag. It happens to him all the time.

    The thing with Dan is, he hasn't really won anything significant lately (and no redietz--I don't consider $350k "significant", esp. compared to my last big VP win) and it's not hard to see why

    Just as EVERYONE knows, kew has no right claiming to be a "professional BJ player" because of his lack of intelligence, determination, self-control, money, and competence/temperament, Dan's one win absolutely WAS a fluke, and he proves as much all the time. What kind of "winning poker player" would ever care about so many supposed $10 and $20 "inequities"? Answer: SOMEONE WITH CONSTANT FINANCIAL PROBLEMS. Just this week I was shorted a $26 bottle of EVOO from the grocery store in Incline Village. They forgot to bag it. What did I do? I went back, explained, somehow the cashier and bagger said they DID give it to me, so I simply purchased another one.

    When you are an overall winning player, you make your life comfortable, happy, and you never go looking for confrontations. But when you're a serial loser (and kew can certainly identify with this) every negative thing and every critic bothers you no end, to the point you resort to lying just to try and feel better. We've all done this in our younger days. Unsuccessful adults continue to do it.
     
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  7. MDawg

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    OVER ALL what's the best part of all this, is skimming through all the UNKewl posts where, without even reading them you just KNOW the puny little UNKewl twit is jumping up and down, screaming like a toddler who just got his baba taken away by a big bad bully.

    Rob pegged UNKewlJ in that respect, from Day One.
     
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  8. Ozzy

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    Newsflash Rob, everybody is different when it comes to finances/money management. It doesn't always correlate with someone's net worth. The main reason Dan the Man sweats over nickels and dimes is because he's a cheap Jew( his own words HUNDREDS of times) I can completely relate, I have no issues financially but I'm very similar( not as hardcore)in that aspect. When it comes to getting slighted for a nominal sum of money. The human mind is very complex and things doesn't always make rational sense.
     
  9. MDawg

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    I've been meaning to post something about this ongoing VCT "debate" about Tasha/Karen Nathan and her sock puppets at WOV. She actually confides in me when she has a sock puppet over there, and she has denied that she is vigarceau to me, and she has never lied to me (which is more than we may say about UNKewlJ who, as Ozzy and MCap have said, "lies on the regular."). As well, this vigarceau doesn't share the characteristics of a Tasha/Karen Nathan sock. So it might well be true that she has no remaining / current socks at WOV.

    I am not sure who this Ilovebigknockers is. He is a member at lotto forum or some such? Anyway, obviously Ilovebigknockers came to VCT just to irritate Tasha.
     
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  10. RobSinger

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    That may hold true in the traditional world. But in the gambling world it all goes out the window.

    Dan is FAR more a gambler than he is a Jew. He doesn't get married because it hurts his casino offers. He doesn't have kids of his own because he can't afford them. And do you really think he's a regular at the local synagogue?

    People get slighted and nickel & dimes all the time. Only losing gamblers see it as just another way life is treating them unfairly.
     
  11. RobSinger

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    • Violation of Rule #1: Be Respectful
    Kew is no different than one of these freako "Karens". He always believes he's "entitled" to be believed and to be respected....even in his countless lies about himself and those who have him perfectly pegged.

    He's a liar and a fraud about being a professional BJ player who does nothing but win: -1 DEMERIT

    He's a big-mouthed queer who like to take it up the ass: -3 DEMERITS

    He gets support from goobers like weirdo redietz and the always-embarrassingly-trying-to-fit-in and lonely MrV: -1 DEMERIT

    He spends far more time than anyone reading and making posts on multiple forums, which contributes greatly to his serious lack of a meaningful life: -2 DEMERITS

    After his sugar daddy unexpectedly croaked of aids, he and his degenerate gambler mother and completely useless POS baby bro, all were forced to move out of the house and into a shithole high rise apt. building: -1 DEMERIT

    And here's a good one--kew thinks of himself as some sort of LV "Man About Town" comprising of an all-knowing and insider knowledge-laced hot shot, who can get casino records on anyone at anytime, from free-wheeling/risk-taking/high-level casino execs: -4 DEMERITS

    Bottom line--kew is a liar, a fraud, a denier, and a fool above all else.

    What a productive, meaningful life!!
     
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  12. Ozzy

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    What a masterpiece!
     
  13. KewlJ

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    I feel nothing but sorrow for you Rob, that you are filled with such hate, bitterness and jealousy that you would lie not just about me, but my family members.

    I have never said a word about your wife or family. Anyone that would do what you just did is a very small, bitter, nasty person.

    I think it is time that your children and all family members ve made aware of your online activities.
     
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  14. redietz

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    The problem with the above is that there are likely tax returns demonstrating whether Todd Witteles won or lost and whether he is therefore a "losing gambler."

    I suspect one way you can tell if someone is broke or not is the degree to which they don't care about being sued because they have nothing. So kudos to Rob. He knows what he doesn't have, so he knows what he can away with writing.

    Still, a lawsuit regarding the above and Todd's 350K WSOP win with Rob declaring that Todd won nothing of significance would make for fascinating court appearances, if Rob had the cajones to not settle with a public apology.

    Ozzy, you like to stir the pot. Why don't I join you? Send a copy of Rob's posts to Dan Druff. If Dan seems perturbed but questions the value of suing Rob, I'll PM Dan and offer to split any legal fees leading up to Rob's court appearance, up to a cap of, oh, 15K.

    MrV, if you want to donate to the Witteles Integrity Legal Fund, chime in. I'm sure kewlJ would donate a few bucks. I believe Todd has a history for bulldog litigation, so this could be great.

    Rob has nothing to fear, unless he actually won the 1.5 mil. LOL.

    It'll be fun. Ozzy, get the ball rolling.
     
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  15. redietz

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    Ozzy, the more I think about this, the more I like it. Todd's sponsorships and partnerships depend on his having a reputation as a "winning gambler," so Rob declaring that he's a loser is bald-faced libel. There's no question that public statements like Rob's are calling not only Todd a liar, but his sponsors and media partners, also.

    I'm sure glad I've been watching Perry Mason on MeTV at 11:30 PM. This will be a lot of fun. Hell, I bet every gambling forum would cover this. LVA would do a feature. Maybe Dancer would throw a few dollars into the legal fund, too.

    C'mon, Ozzy. Get things going.
     
  16. RobSinger

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    [Q
    UOTE="KewlJ, post: 156965, member: 502"]I feel nothing but sorrow for you Rob, that you are filled with such hate, bitterness and jealousy that you would lie not just about me, but my family members.

    I have never said a word about your wife or family. Anyone that would do what you just did is a very small, bitter, nasty person.

    I think it is time that your children and all family members ve made aware of your online activities.[/QUOTE]

    And you know why you haven't said anything about my wife and children? BECAUSE NON OF THEM ARE FREAKIZOIDS AND YOU KNOW IT, WE ALL HAVE MEANINGFUL, EXTREMELY PRODUCTIVE LIVES, AND WE LIVE OUR LIVES OUTSIDE THE COWARDLY CONFINES OF INTERNET FORUMS.

    We got home a few hours ago, and I STILL have time to give you unforgettable wedgies :)
     
  17. KewlJ

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    KJ's brother here. My brother has put up with your gay bashing for years. I've had enough. Come to Las Vegas and say these things about me and my mother to my face, you low life, piece of shit! Let's just see how big a pussy you are, Singer or Argentino or whatever your name is. Name the place and time.
     
  18. RobSinger

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    What a weirdo. The reason you, witless, kew or anybody cannot and do not sue me for anything, is because you all know I have the resources to bury each and every one of you little people.

    MrV has his own challenges to deal with at home--just like witless does. I laugh....and tingle at their discomfort....and yours.
     
  19. soxfan

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    I wish that the m-dawg and the kewl-j would settle their difference in the boxings ring. I'd pony up a coupla thou to the charity of choice to see the m-dawg slam his fist into the kewl-j's mug a coupla, few dozen time, hey hey.
     
  20. RobSinger

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    Kew, both you and your pos baby bro ought to know better. I'm older than both you freaks combined, yet I could take both of you out in a matter of seconds

    One of the first lessons we learned in training: NEVER challenge anybody blindly, when you have no idea of their capabilities.

    I advise you idiots to keep this in mind going forward:

    Know Your Risk / Check Your Six
     

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