Las Vegas GF Chat Room

Big Sigh
Yet again
You just don’t get it do you?
What is the common denominator re your claim of being trolled on every forum you visit ?
It’s certainly not me , not me under any guise, I only post this forum, no sockpuppet etc.
It’s you, remarkable, on all those different forums , with so many different posters you are doing something that causes you to be addressed differently than what you think you should be addressed as. There has to be something that makes you attract this negativity. I don’t view other forums at all , I see no need. I would assume there are a multitude of different people posting adverse comments to you , why is that? Are the all wrong? Are they all clones of the same troll as I believe you posted here? I really don’t know is it the same 3 or 4 people following you from forum to forum? I know emphatically I don’t, yet you insinuate I am.

You get pushback because of the way you conduct yourself, you admit to
Lies
Fake sock accounts
Allow people to post on your account which impacts your “credibility”
Troll people like mdawge, tater etc
Faking your own death
Your hypocrisy posts
Your poor me posting
Your bullying of administration and others
Your hysterics
The list goes on.

I continue to state to you
Start a worthwhile thread
Stop trolling people here, you know you do.
Be a better person
Stop this insanity of your bitterness you post after post after post.
Take a step back and look at your conduct here recently this thread
No one cares about your life really, but you go over the top because you feel slighted because others have a better life than you. I have news for you there are many gazillionars that will always have a better life than anyone here.

Leave, don’t leave no cares , no one misses you last few months. Honestly you don’t contribute much of anything other than the emotional poor me outbursts you’ve posted here in the last few days, you know that .

Start a thread of substance, not regurgitating outdated information from books, hearsay from 2013 . Build up your credibility, leave others alone, you disagree with what they claim, mdawge example, who cares move on , be the better person.

I doubt you can do it really.
I think you wear self pity too much.
Who cares you AP for 20 years? Really does it matter? So what?

Here’s a congratulations well done from me. I wrote that with total sincerity and I mean it.

But
It’s really only meaningful to you, get over yourself.

So in Vegas AP is a dying enterprise, you know it. Yes it’s possible it’s one of the last bastions where an AP can practice, you know it. Honestly you do know it’s getting harder, what are you doing about it? You know the video poker is on the way out. You know slot play is only just useable and is also on the wayside.

So what are you doing to learn to survive the next decade?

Have you stopped to think that other posters here this forum are earning a living NOT being an AP ? How is that? How come you haven’t worked out how mdawge, gizmo , soxfan, myself, jimske, jacoblaze plus numerous others here can do it ?

Most have been doing this for years, no heat from casinos, no bankroll deaths from martibation etc. You claim we are degens and provide the funding for casinos to allow the .0000000000000000001/2% of you to be bleed out as future non existent APs . Poster dietz was shot down stating that fact, which I fully agreed with him, that the AP is going dodo.

What are you doing to upskill?

All I see is resentment posting from you, bitter, angry posting possibly because you accomplished way of life is probably no longer fully available as it once was . You know it , everyone knows it. Your over 40 years old, ten years your over 50 years old closer to 60.
AP is changing, even the jingoistic narrative of Vegas being superior will change in your lifetime AP activity, be honest, you know it’s a fact.
Hopefully your not stealing toilet paper as posted on another thread as the new AP play. That I’m sure you will agree is long fall from grace and an embarrassment to any AP.

So are you going to change?
Are you going to use your intelligence and work out the other ( non criminal) ways to make money legally from a casinos. I understand for some the hustle , the con, is the thrill perhaps more so than the actual win of decent liveable income.

Really, no nastiness intended, what’s your plan?

Be like others here living comfortably or bitching and screaming about perceived ( rightly or wrongly) injustice to yourself?

The olive branch has always been offered by me on many occasions various threads this one and only forum. You always choose to ignore it, you know that’s a fact.

 

Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about on a multitude of subjects.

This is a gambling forum and I am a professional gambler, earning a living playing blackjack and other AP plays for 2 decades now. I have made over a million and a half dollars in that 20 years from casino advantage play, mostly blackjack. I have every right to share some of my experiences on a Gambling forum. I am sorry if you and a few others don't like that.

As far as substance, again, you have no clue. Look at the blackjack section. Multiple threads started by me sharing my experiences and the way I do things of which I have been successful at what I do.

I post on two forums and yes the same group of people have followed me around just to attack me.

The late Kevin Keen who posted as Moses and tater, I first encountered on a blackjack forum a decade ago. When I left there, he followed me to Wizard of Vegas, When I left there, he followed me to VegasCasinoTalk and when he was banned there, he followed me here. Just to attack and troll me. He all but admitted that in his final post here before he passed, apologizing to me, which I appreciated. May he rest in peace.

Mdawg, followed me from Wizard of Vegas, to VegasCasinoTalk and then here. He also doxxed me, posting where I live, which was unknown until that time.

Rob Singer, quit VegasCasinoTalk last summer after he humiliated himself, lying about the owner and what did he do, immediately showed up here attacking and trolling me. And when I finally put him on ignore here two months ago, he went crawling back to VCT. Following me around seeking my attention with his trolling.

So YES, these people are following me around.

I acknowledge I make some enemies because I will call out the people making claims that can't be. I don't apologize for that. Gambling is about math. The very low bar is that people can't make up claims that defy the mathematics. If someone is going to make up stories, they have to meet that low bar of not defying the math.

Now, you just told us a few hours ago that you have never been to Las Vegas, and here you are telling us that Las Vegas is dead and there are no AP opportunities remaining. Just another example of you not having a clue what you are talking about. There are more AP opportunities in Las Vegas right now, than there have ever been! And that includes card counting. Nothing is dead. Nothing is dying. They have been saying card counting is dying since Thorp wrote Beat the Dealer 62 years ago. Even after a handful of casinos that didn't re-open after covid, there are more opportunities for card counting since I have been in Vegas which is 14 years now. So once again, you have no clue what you are talking about.....you are just talking, following the others trolls.

So you can talk your olive branch and shove it up your ass. I have no need to accept an olive branch because I never did or said anything to you. It is you who came at me following and repeating bullshit and lies.

 

Lol
You on tilt big time, I can smell the bile from here, bitter post by you, sour poor me victim post by you again

I for one rate you with zero credibility as per reason I often posted. There are more reliable sources out there than you. You may delude yourself all you want but the general consensus from more trustworthy sources than is that it is increasingly getting more difficult on the main gaming floor to be a full time successful bj player.

You are struggling, your posts definitely show you have a problem, are you suffering from some form of ptsd?

You keep up the denial, I’ll keep making cash.

Oh poor poor you, you are so harshly treated for no fault of your own. The world is really victimising a pooor pooor innocent man.
One account many users, zero credibility.

How was that last trip to Macau kewlj?
Lol

 

You having a self confidence crisis?

Who gives a fuck you moronic idiot, 20 years
Laugh my fucking arse off you loser clown, lol.

No one cares, what’s the big deal?
You live in a shit hole 3 world city.
Many members this forum have posted what a shithole hobo loser vagasville is.
20 years , what a clown.
Here’s the medal you are so desperately trying people to present you with.
You truly deserve this recognition for your self professed prowess as a fully qualified loser.

The first inaugural medal for insecure poodle bullshit player award presented to team one account kewlj.
This award covers all categories you represent
Zero credibility
Trolling
Bullying
Hypocrisy
Self proclaimed victim again and again
Marionette
Loser dodo AP
You are eligible for the award on a day by day basis. Just mention your 20 year record that only matters to you .
Get the memo, no one cares, you crave participation award that no one gives a fuck about. Cuddle up to the award and cry yourself to sleep.

 

FWIW I find KJ's claim of supporting himself via card counting to be more credible than incredible.

Sure, I suppose it could be BS, as could pretty much anything claimed on these boards, but I don't think so.

And what is with this nonsense about flaming him for living in sin city?

No better place for a card counter to ply his trade; now, if someone claimed they did it successfully in a small city such as Reno, that would be more problematical.

KJ doesn't deserve a medal, but perhaps a cape would be in order...

 

He’s got quite the ensemble happening, the cape , the latex and the shit trophy nice.

Even you call it sin city, why would you flame kewlj place of residence? Must have some traction as a shithole for you to call it out, yet you call me out . Apparently if you have never visited “sin city” you are a loser as per kewlj and dietz posts .

I definitely DONT doubt kewlj has been in loser vagas for 20 odd years, I don’t doubt he’s played blackjack at some stage during that timeframe, his claim of success I’m very doubtful of. It’s the mafphzz , it just doesn’t add up imho.

While I’m posting with you do you remember this post of yours?

So I posted on another thread to you enquiring about the “preferred %” you would suggest that winners should be donating per your quote posted. How much do you donate from your forays in the big end of town casinoverse wins you rack up, per your winning chicken dinner post on another thread? I can track it down if you can’t remember what you posted. Or are you exempt?

Also I assume you have also posted that very same request to kewlj to donate to the blm cause, is that correct? What % should he donate? 20 plus years, $1:5 million (doubtful) what’s the % ? How about dietz? What % of his earnings from sports betting have you asked him to donate? How much of his $130000 value house and equally valuable comic book collection derived from sports betting winning ( not much to show for 40plus years) has he had to donate as per your post ?
Hypocrisy big in the northern hemisphere huh?

 

Punk -- LOL -- you don't even have the balls to post under your real name.

Classic keyboard bravado. You're a joke.

I mean, c'mon, man. You don't know anything about gambling. You don't post under your real name. All you do is type shit on this backwater forum because no other forum will have you.

Here's my speculation -- Punk's number and length of posts directly correlate with how much of a gambling beating he's taken recently. So God bless him.

Post some more, Punk. Post some more. Everyone loves reading your brilliance.

But at least post under your name, not your recess handle. What, you're scared of the big, bad professional gamblers? You know, you're gonna die anonymous, Punk. You don't want that, do you? I mean, it would be a shame if all that brilliance didn't get attributed to some genius down under.

 

Lol you still trying to be of some sort of relevance.
Your research skills re posters not using real name is in direct proportion to your inability to be truly wealthy. I would suspect you are just as lax with your sports betting research. Hence your need to tout your fictional results on free gaming sites, your need to con people to subscribe to your loser tip site.

Just to name a few
Turbo genius ( has own thread how about you)
Soxfan
Mr V , pal of yours I believe
Countless others you imbecile.

Your need to be recognised is quite the joke , I believe you offer your toilet paper book signed , unsolicited !!!!! Tell me are you going to be privy to your supposed FAME when you are dead ?
No it’s as ridiculous as you post.
Go post your crap on all the other forums like you post here , “on this backwater forum” , here you are posting away, you do realise you are a joke on the other forums also?
Try reminding people of your post about the alien in thousands of years time coming here and finding your book , lol , smacks of mental health issues , overinflated ego and delusions of grandeur at the least. Lol

No one cares about you dietz and you know it, that’s why you overcompensate. Try digging up graves. Guess what?
No one cares, they never will care about you and you have definitely done ZERO to be respected, remembered by the masses. The only fleeting footnote in the pages of history you may achieve is if you commit a heinous crime, you got access to guns, you got access to a local community?
Your truly pathetic lol poor, I mean poor in every aspect of life , fool

 

Hey, Punkcity...I'll respond.

I call it "sin city" more out of respect than derision; plus that's it's nick name.

I've visited and gambled in Vegas quite a few times; saw Manny fight at MGM, saw Fleetwood Mac perform at MGM, attended two Spring Fling's via WoV: met and "broke bread" with Mike and other members: enjoyed it, good people.

As for BLM: my question to Rob was sarcastic: he's even more of a racist than I am, and no, I donated zero to NAACP or BLM and I never will; hell, for me "charity begins at home."

Yeah, I find KJ and Redietz both credible; I don't bet sports, nor do I play BJ, but that does not impair my ability to judge people by what they write.

As far as me being a "loser," I can only ask that you clarify what you mean by that term; sure, I've lost overall in casinos, but casinos are only a small side show in my life; when it comes to what is truly important I have zero qualms about my past, present or future, i.e. I am pretty fucking solid, know what I mean?

 

Im not sure I’ve posted you are a loser anywhere this forum.

My comment in the post you replied to was perhaps misread by you.
I said kewlj and dietz said that you( my meaning generic you and not you , Mr V specifically) are a loser if you don’t go to Vegas. Their “you” was implying me.

My term loser vagas is skipptophian for a “nickname”, as is shithole, so too is shitbox ( automobile nickname) so we other than you can’t use a nickname to quantify a location, ideal or object used for transportation?

As for your opinion regarding kewlj and dietz is your prerogative and you are entitled to it. I have a different view.

Incidentally what’s your opinion on non real names posting? Are You a loser as per dietz reasoning, a keyboard warrior that wants to remain anonymous?
Yes charity does begin at home.

 

Obviously I've no objection as I do it myself.

As for the "loser" label: your post said I am a loser "as per kewlj and dietz posts."

It would have not been attack had you omitted the word "as:" it sounds like you concur.

 

You may want to revisit the initial post. IF you feel slighted then that’s your problem as being a loser was not inferred to represent you nor was it to endorse the statement of people that have not visited loser vagas are losers. Clearly the statement by those two clown team members is just a throw away line that they plucked from their derriere.

To ask you another question if you care to reply.

Do you consider yourself by using a fictional name for your account here that your prime purpose is to be “a keyboard warrior” another quaint line plucked from the anal repository of dietz. Also do you regret using a fictional name as it would impinge on any past or future recognition of you becoming famous?

If you are bothered about your fictional name perhaps we could lobby or petition the administration ( oh look another fictional name account imagine if they used their real names, they could be famous!!!!) to allow you and perhaps others that erred with account names the opportunity to use your real names? You could have a shot , as others could also finally have the brief spot light of fame caress your/their apparently needy soul.

I’m sure admin would make an allowance for such a needy cause.

So rest your sweet head no one is claiming you are a loser, you have crossed all the ts and dotted all the i’s because you’re a solid fuck. Your words I believe. Cheers

 

Thanks, that was a fucking solid post.

To answer: no, I've no regrets.

Redietz is entitled to his opinion, but I see no "shame" in posting anonymously, nor should it diminish one's credibility.

I prefer anonymity in part to avoid detractors reaching out to me "in the real world," ala what douchedawg did to KJ by doxxing him.

 

Yes I agree with you , I also practice a zero online social media footprint as I have never been able to come to terms with having to tell everyone/anyone my latest bowl movement of the day, etc, etc, let alone post about how the wife died on an open forum. You can see how out of shape they get when someone posts a reply that’s not pandering up to their precious fragile mental state. The information they throw out into the public domain just to get a like is amazing. Very fragile personality, very needy to have a total unknown person admiration for your daily bowl motion and they feel famous, sad fucks.

I don’t agree on your last paragraph maybe you didn’t catch the admin response to one account wimping plea.
Here’s a grab re the dox thing you all claim. I know you have an agenda re mdawge, but I’m inclined to believe this rather than what you and one account many people kewlj claims. It’s from an administrative post here this forum.

Even though I don’t see eye to eye with all of the admin team( there are a couple of humorous ones, but one not so, ) I tend to accept the above quote from them. I don’t read or participate in other forums , the multi forum participation seems to be the norm for posters here, I do wonder when they manage to make the $1:5 million return when they are always on a forum. As I don’t follow other forums I have no idea nor do I care, if the dox subject has been addressed as clear as the humous admin guy here did.

I would also like to add a 5 year old child has more convincing lies than the one account participants have manufactured on this forum various threads.
That is my opinion, formed by what I’ve read here , this forum.
Cheers

 

Punk city, the admin comments are taken out of context because the administrator is only concerned with what occurred on this forum. I suspect, you as well only know what occurred on this forum. But this issue involving doxxing played out on several forums. And one of the forums that tells much of the story, I won't name it without administrators permission is a forum most of us now believe Mdawg owns or is associated with in some way. It is not even a gambling forum but rather a forum for writers writing stories, based out of California. Writers writing "stories" should tell you something right off the bat.

I will recap the entire chain of events, although I don't expect YOU to be receptive and suspect the admin doesn't care because much of it didn't happen here.

1) so it started at WoV with Mdawgs long running claims of winning daily and getting a comped suite for what amounted to a year (solid year less a couple weeks).

2.) numerous members at WoV, myself included began to challenge those claims on the basis of no mathematic principals to explain the long-term winnings, other than "betting up into streaks" and that Las Vegas does not operate the way he claims...allowing known higher end players to win almost daily for a year, while comping them a suite for hundreds of days in a row.

3.) Mdawgs immediate responses were to have Michael Shackleford over at WoV, suspend anyone challenging these claims, saying they were calling him a liar. Most of us never used that language. For example, I simply used the word "fiction" and was suspended numerous times.

4.) almost immediately at this other forum that we believe Mdawg is associated with, he started individual threads for every person that challenged him. Each individual thread bore the name (handle) of the member challenging him and then he proceeded to attack and lie about each person. To my knowledge these are still there for anyone to see.

5) Mdawg then went to VCT, where he continued his long running "adventured" thread. It seemed to be important to him to tell the same daily experiences in as many places as he could. When he could not get the protection at VCT from Dan Druff against those questioning and challenging his claims (not just me), he moved on to this forum.

6.) At this forum, the back and forth continued, mostly between him and I. Then one day he announced, right here on this very forum that he had hired an investigator to find me and find information on me. (I could go back and find the quote in fall of 2021 but I don't want to waste that kind of time and effort right now).

7) Several weeks later he revealed personal information about me, my real name, where I lived, street and building, right down to a description of my condo, including square fontages and number of bathrooms. This information was NOT posted here, but rather at this other forum that he is associated with, so I suspect the admin here didn't concern themselves. I am quite sure that Mdawg knew better than to post the complete information here. But over multiple posts he did post little bits and pieces, my first name, name of the street, name of the condo complex, ect. AND the late Keven Keen, posting as Tater here, also repeated much of that same information here.

8) almost immediately that same information turned up in the Oregon Surveillance Network database. For those that don't know, OSN is the largest database information network supplying a database to casinos in Las Vegas with entries for suspected cheats and advantage players. So all of the sudden all this same information that he doxxed showed up in a new entry about me. Coincidence? Well there was sort of a marker as to where that info came from as one small detail that Mdawg posted was incorrect and low and behold that incorrect number appeared in the database entry. So either they read that obscure forum for aspiring writers, or he sent them that same info that he doxxed. I am pretty sure it was the latter.

9). This entry forced me to take some time off, play less, play differently (more crowded weekends), and do some other AP plays that I otherwise wouldn't. In the end it probably costs me 20-25 thousand dollars in loss reduced play in 2022. The only reason it wasn't worse is because a top AP in Vegas, threw me some work and play with his team (non-blackjack).

So that is the events of Mdawg doxxing me, attempting to end and/or harm my AP career and to some degree succeeding temporarily. I don't know if anything Mdawg does regarding play is at an advantage or not. I see no evidence of it and the things he claims about the Las Vegas casino industry are not how they work. But regardless of whether he is an AP or recreational player, outing and doxxing a player who makes a living from the casinos, is just a low life things to do and should not be tolerated on any forum, especially a forum billing itself as a 'Gambling Forum'. And all because I had the audacity to say I didn't believe his story and claims because they defy math and the way Las Vegas works.

Again, the major incident of the doxing and revealing information did not occur here at GF. He knew that would not be tolerated. But I can go back and post quotes of bits and pieces that did find its way to this forum and were repeated by other members. THAT is what I asked the administrators here to address, and they seemed not interested in doing so or getting too involved. This and similar handling of sensitive information is at least part of the reason why most real APs (and there is a real AP community here in Vegas) don't hold this forum in very high esteem.

 

Just a little fun(ny) fact. During Mdawgs brief stint at VCT, one of the members most calling out inconsistencies in his claims and story was none other than Rob Singer, who now mostly supports him, as per the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" syndrome. Some of this forum shit can be funnier than the funniest Hollywood comedies.

 

Did the mods at that other forum for fictitious writers nuke or suspend the dox-hound?

Sure was a clear violation of rule four, to wit: "Respect privacy. Do not post any personal information about someone else that is intended to be private or quote from private communication. This rule applies to protecting the privacy of everybody, but especially forum members."

If not, why not (rhetorical question: regular viewers believe they know 'why not.')

 

Short answer no. When I complained, my posts were removed and eventually I was blocked from responding to his lies about me. When he posted the doxing information, I immediately contacted the forum administrator(s) requesting that information be removed. They ignored me again. It took my attorney contacting them and threatening legal action before they redacted some of the information. Of course by that time it was being repeated by people.

While I cannot prove it or maybe I could if I really dug a bit, He either owns that forum is is associated in some way. (maybe a friend or relative)

Without looking, I think it was upwards of 20 threads he started about different members from WoV and VCT that had challenged him, each thread bearing the name or handle of the person and attacks to discredit each person. Who does that on a forum the people aren't even at?

 

There was somebody else that also showed up there and tried to respond to his lies. I think it was redietz. And the admin also shut down that person.

 

The bottom line about Mdawg is that if his claims and story were true, he wouldn't need to attack and lie about people who don't believe him. He could answer legitimate questions and challenges as I always have. I try to respond and answer questions from anyone to be sure there is no misunderstanding of something I have said until it becomes painfully obvious the accuser is trolling and not acting in good faith.

These guys (and I include Singer) can't and don't do that. They immediately go to attacking because they can't answer any legitimate questions or concerns. And they attack not only the person questioning or challenging but get very personal with family members and stuff. This serves as as a warning to others. DO NOT CHALLENGE ME or you will get the same. It is an old Mob tactic.