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Hey Redietz, you must stop it with your constant printing of your gambling memoirs.

There is only one way to waste more time than reading Kewlj’s posts. It’s reading how great of a gambling fool you were and probably still am posts.

I can’t speak for anyone else but, as soon as you start about your greatness, I’m gone and never finish what ever it is you might be posting about. Please, give it a break.

I hope you invested as well as your mentor Mr. Walters did. When could we expect your book or a movie about you mini me.

 

Glad you asked.

It turns out that, unbeknownst to me until a month ago, the local bookmaker who took my wagers when I was a teen has had a movie script written about him and evidently has some producers. So I may be a character in a movie if the film ever sees the light of day.

I knew nothing about it. A kid I knew when I was 16, who is now relatively wealthy, is supposedly one of the producers. Now the odds are way against any screenplay ever seeing the public, but if

"Bet on Jake"

ever makes it to video or the silver screen, check it out! It's very possible there will be a "Bob Dietz" character in there.

 

Redietz,

Will you ever accomplish something without hanging onto someone else’s coat tails?

I didn’t mean anything to do with your famous sports picks. Please spare us another wash, rinse, and dry review again.

What I mean is you got to write a paragraph about a car in someone else’s car book. Right? I mean your so proud of that you even offered to sign books, and I would guess on that page. Now a friend might make a film and mention or use your character in it. Will you be featured as a child getting refreshments for Mr. Walters?

Combine all this with your constant re-wash rinse and dry of your famous sports picks everywhere you ever posted, it’s all starting to look very desperate and pathetic.

I hope your life is not as sad as it appears. Please don’t end up like Kewlj. I sort of like you. (Not that it matters)

 

This is what I posted "Billy Walters BELIEVES had Mickelson testified he would have been acquited." I didn't write "Mickey Crimm believes had Mickelson testified he would have been acquited."

BH, please work on your reading comprehension. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

BH, here's a link to the Johnson City, Tennessee delinquent property tax list. Robert Dietz is listed at the bottom of page 7. Ditz owed $515 for 2022. Six months into 2023 the debt is still outstanding and has accrued another $57 interest. Percentagewise, he's getting hammered in late fee's. Remember, redietz places a lot of importance in records.

https://files4.revize.com/johnsontn/document_center/finance/delinquent_taxes.pdf

 

I don’t get why you would have posted that interview with Walters? I got the impression you were trying to defend another hard gambler with his personal believes. Visit any prison and I’ll bet every prisoner will claim the same thing. What I found interesting in that interview Walters admits it was proven he was found guilty of insider trading. That appears to me like he was talking out of both sides of his mouth. I would expect nothing less from a hard gambler.

As far as Redietz owning tax money on his luxury residence comes as no surprise. What does come as a surprise is that you would go through the trouble to find that out.

99.9 % of all gamblers on these assorted gambling forums who insist on bragging how well they perfected the art of gambling for decades, would make Redietz’s 500-dollar debt look like petty cash. Even Redietz could drive around and pick up a bunch of deposit bottles on recycle day and cover his debt. You could only imagine what all these hard gamblers actually owe out.

If you need to brag about your gambling success on anonymous gambling forums where proof is considered taboo, there is not much left to say. Those conditions alone should be all the proof you need to confirm how much of a loser you really are.

Just consider all the time and effort one would have to spend posting on gambling forums and other forms of communications for decades, trying to convince anonymous people how successful of an anonymous gambler you are.

It just makes zero sense.

 

Sorry, I can't take credit for discovering ditz being delinquent on his property taxes. Someone else discovered it and posted a link. Ditz said he always waited until just before late penalties to pay it. But as you can see late penalties have been added.

The demand for proof of AP income always come from non AP's like yourself, with the exception of ditz, of course, who has never gave one hint of what he makes. I don't care what other AP's make. I don't care if people believe I don't make money. It's nothing to me. It's an excercise in futilty to try and convince any non AP of anything. I personally just write what I want to write and if non AP's don't believe it I don't give a fuck. I'm certainly not going to jump thru hoops to convince anyone.

I WAS surprised that ditz suggested that others put up their income tax returns. He's talked about his supposed track record quite a bit but has never divulged anything about how much money he has made at sports betting. I don't care if he makes money or not but he should divulge and put up proof of his own income if he wants others to divulge theirs.

But the problem with posting up information on one's income is that no matter how much proof you provide, it can easily be called a lie. And one thing non AP's like to do is call AP's liars. My suggestion to AP's everywhere is don't put up any information about your income. Fuck the people that don't believe you. Let them live in the dark. You aren't going to convince them of anything anyway. They are dimwitted assholes.

 

How much money one makes at sports gambling doesn't indicate much of anything. Billy Walters can be one game over .500 for a year and net 200K. Is that better than somebody who's 20 games over .500 and nets 50K?

What matters for sports handicappers, because other people who follow you can make money, is "Did you win?" As a sports handicapper, people are paying you to win games. Your success as a sports handicapper comes from winning games. If you're betting a dollar a game and you're 20 games over .500 for the season, you had a helluva football season. Singer, for example, had a helluva football season last NFL season. The fact he was betting niggardly amounts is irrelevant. He got the job done. The fact he hung it up after two months is also irrelevant. He got the job done. His income taxes aren't going to show much, but as a handicapper, he had a stellar NFL season. Dan Druff similarly had a bona fide top notch season. How much these two were betting per NFL game doesn't matter.

 

"Zero sense," indeed.

Do you believe Robert's claims about the DUB, the Newll, and the $1.5V VP hit?

 

The fact that you felt compelled (or is it stoned) enuf to bring that up explains why you're nothing more than an instigator.

BH has already said people can decide for themselves what to believe and what not to believe. And that's the only reasonable choice on these gambling forums loaded with anonymous egos. What's more important--and telling--should be how claimants respond. Do they calmly shrug off the negative comments produced by others who have the right to believe whatever they choose to, or do they post never-ending denials over and over again along with delivering continuous lies about those who have them pegged, of course all emitting from the forum posting sweatshop?

 

So then Robert, should we blithely read what others claim and not question it?

Or is it enough to question it once, and then let the claimant continue to make the same claims but we never question / call them out on it again?

If it's raining out and someone says "It's sunny" over and over then yeah, I'll keep questioning it.

I suppose one can amuse oneself by trolling but it does nothing to advance the progress of human civilization.

Reality: accept no substitute.

 

Leave it to others to decide. What they think doesn't change "reality" either way anyway. In my case, some people just don't like me so they neither want my good fortune to be true, nor do they want others to accept it.

Think about it V. Kew claims mountains of things he wants to be known throughout the forums for because he has no real life outside of these places. He NEEDS the relevance. Yet he has never provided any evidence of any kind or pictures that could help his cause, and if you doubt him he makes endless personal attacks in the form of massive lies.

OTOH I've provided multiple pictures to go along with my claims, yet they're met with false narratives, lies about what they're seeing, long-shot guesses against what I'm providing, and stretches and spins of every kind because of the envy.

Therefore, don't you think it's best if you let each interested character decide for themself, without the coaching?

 

Did you really write that? You can't be serious since you've never posted up your income from gambling. Why don't you lead by example and tell us YOUR money results with corroboration.

 

That's what happens in any event, we all weigh the info and decide.

Gotta wonder why so many forums turn into flame fests, often dooming them.

 

As CoachBelly, AccountInQuestion, SeedValue, PunkCity, Blackhole, RobSinger, Ozzy, Smurgerburger, and others have pointed out, UNKewlJ is mentally ill.

My diagnosis is - manic depressive. How to know in which phase UNKewlJ is currently?

Well, no one READS all that SChiZoPHreNiC UNKewl PYsCHo babble he posts, but if you simply view it as quantity (definitely not quality), on the DAYS when he is on

the manic posts will be long! or as AccountInQuestion put it, 10x multiplier responses to any post calling out his lies.

On days when he is in his depressed state, he will post very little, barely able to make it out of bed in the morning.

If you want to waste the time scanning through any of his posts, additionally on the manic days his posts will consist of long-winded, rambling drama-laced "I NEED TO set the record straight or I'll go OUT OF MY MIND!" paragraphs that never seem to satisfy, as he then repeats the same things over and over again, while on the depressed state days the posts will be more along the lines of "Woe is me" and "Why won't anyone believe me?"

UNKewlJ also tends to quit forums (with or without a solemn oath) when his depression is especially kicked in. (And return to the forums, rather quickly, as soon as the mania reverts.)

AccountinQuestion on exactly how crazy UNKewlJ is: Mirror Mirror on the wall who is the most insane of them all.

 

As a professional handicapper, income from gambling is irrelevant. I've made that point many times, and that was the point I was making referencing both Singer and Dan Druff's NFL records last season. It doesn't matter if they lost 100K each while gambling over the year. As football handicappers, they did a great job. And that's what's being evaluated when you're a handicapper. They put their records in print in advance, and that's entirely unlike the narratives/biographies/ tall tales (pick one and assign a likelihood) of "APs."

I filed as a "professional gambler" two or three years in my life, because that was the best way to file. The rest of the time, I filed as a proprietor, a partner, or whatever was the most advantageous way that particular year, a la your favorite and mine, Mr. Trump.

I have no idea how many years mickey crimm filed as a "professional gambler," but I can tell people this. Those folks who call themselves "professional sports bettors" have adopted a phrase with no meaning. Anybody can call themselves a "professional sports bettor" just like anyone can label themselves a "professional slot player" or a "professional machine player" or a "professional card counter." Those are just labels without meaning unless you actually have tax filings to back them up.

Mickey tends to cherry pick what info he presents here, which makes me wonder about how he cherry picks what he presents to the public as a whole.

For example, he conveniently discussed sports bonuses WITHOUT MENTIONING THAT I WAS THE PERSON HE IMMEDIATELY ASKED FOR ADVICE. That's kind of a significant omission, wouldn't you say? I had to point out that he asked me for advice.

Mickey also POSTED COPIES OF SOME (NOT ALL, AS IS EVIDENT) OF MY TICKETS FROM MY BIGGEST FUTURE WIN in the Retro Road Trip thread at VCT. But he conveniently forgot that as he says, in this thread, that there are no posted money results.

If mickey crimm has this kind of selective memory, well, it suggests much.

 

Two reasons V:

1. Regardless what anyone claims (and we curiously and regularly see this from kew) gambling people are inherently jealous souls who for perception purposes SAY they enjoy seeing others reports of wins, but truly despise seeing them because it wasn't theirs. AND THIS IS ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE LOSING GAMBLERS. So they lie lie lie, until their version becomes etched into their mind. Maxpen, PV, the fairy, and many others fall directly into this category.

2. Human beings, without question, are the most despicable of living things on this planet. They claim to "be friendly, honest and easy-going" upon first meetings, then as you and they get to know one another better over various amounts of time, almost every one turns on the other...over mostly petty things. We rape, murder, cripple and maim each other, and few regret their actions.

Any questions?

 

First of all, were you lying when you said you didn't teach family, or were you lying when you said you did teach family? You trapped yourself with that one and you think ignoring it will make it go away. That sooner or later people will forget it. No chance, ditz.

The word "professional" and the word "gambler" don't go together but think whatever you want.

There are a lot of well known sports bettors in the Professional Sports Betting thread at VCT. But nobody, including Dancer and Munchkin know who the fuck YOU are. All that name dropping you do don't mean jackshit. Anybody can do that.

Since you brought up tax returns why don't YOU post yours up here, to show us all how good you are? Lead by example. I won't hold my breath and you know why. You ain't going to post up shit about your tax returns. If you can't show your own returns then stop talking about what others should do.

As far as your cherry picking accusations go, I just got a major endorsement from Anthony Curtis. He wants me on his podcast. He revealed that he had been reading my strategies for years and was highly impressed. That would be about 18 years going back to vpFREE where I put out a lot of information on the nuts and bolts of machine play. Also, he has tried more than once to get me to write a book.

So ditz, you go ahead and hold me as suspect. As a matter of fact, why don't you attempt to get on Curtis's podcast. And you list your reasons to them why I'm suspect. But what Curtis knows about me is everything I've written about machines is technically correct. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence that reads it can see the logic because that's all I'm using. So you might have a problem getting Curtis and his viewers to believe you.

Yes, I asked you how you would handle the free bets and you did respond. I still have it in PM. I'll post it up and also put up other information I found on the subject.

I don't remember any winning tickets you posted but cherry picking what you post about results doesn't mean anything.

Also, about a sports gambler's winning percentage, if one would have blindly bet every away dog against the spread for the last 30 years would have shown a 54% win. How well do you think you would have done on those same games?

 

This comment coming from Mickey C. is interesting.

Here is a man who hopped, skipped, and jumped, in his earlier years from job to job, unable to hold onto or to lazy to keep any of them. Then he decided to hop, skip, and jump from place-to-place sneaking on trains, and living the hobo life in the woods.

Then he found AP the golden ticket and as been doing this ever since.

Now in his senior years, I assume he spends most of his waking hours in his apartment, or traveling all over the place hunting down AP moves in casinos. We know he spends endless nights in coupon available hotels, or most likely in his car.

Just check out his Road Pic thread over at VCT. It’s like 40 pages of pictures from all over the country.

If anyone is thinking of raising a family, Mickeys choice is not for you.

As far as it goes for the people that don’t believe anonymous posts by anonymous people on no less gambling forums, Mickey thinks we are living in the dark and are dimwitted assholes. Then to top it off he admits they’re not going to convince us of anything anyway. Without undisputable proof you’re damn right you’ll never convince anyone with brains anything just because you say so.

Everyone should consider which fits the dimwitted asshole adjective better. Kewlj immediately comes to my mind.

 

So Blackhole, when I first encountered you at VCT, you indicated you were very successful life. I never doubted that. Had no reason to. Didn't know what field it might be because you never said. Yet I never doubted you and I never asked you for proof.

Now in the past couple days or week or so, you shared in more detail some of the things you did.....franchises and stuff.

So did anybody....anybody at all ask you for proof of these franchise claims? Again, I have no reason to doubt you, but if I did, I wouldn't ask for proof and neither should anybody else.

These are ANONYMOUS internet forums. No one is on trial nor need prove anything. Honestly what is wrong with you?

And Singer or anybody else: I don't know how I can make it any clearer that I will post when and where I want. So just fuck off.