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Discussion in 'Las Vegas Forum' started by RobSinger, May 27, 2022.

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  1. RobSinger

    RobSinger Active Member

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    You gonna start whimpering like your kind does, or keep taking it up the ass.....hmmm....LIKE YOUR KIND DOES?! :)
     
  2. Blackhole

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    The time has come. I know how much you enjoy fucking with the male cock sucker Rob. ( not that there is anything wrong with males sucking other males cocks)

    But, the time has come for everyone to completely ignore this fucking idiot. Do you realize how this fucking idiot would lose his crossed wired mind. He'd be blowing circuit breaker after circuit breaker. Imagine shit head, Mr V, and redietz only able to talk to each other? I think that could be more entertaining then your attacks. To be honest your attacks are also becoming boring.

    We need to BAN Kewlj. Besides it would be similar to banning Bud Light. He is a faggot after all.

    C'mon Mdawg, get in on this. Of course this would have to include all other forums he posts on.

    Let's do it. We could drive him to suicide....
     
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  3. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    What is this idiot saying? :confused:

    Looks like he is saying BAN, when he means boycott or ignore.

    Guess what genius, you have always had that option on any forum at any time.

    But go for it. Try to organize your little troll boycott. Music to my ears. Like watching a prison hunger strike. Who do you think you would be hurting. Lol.
     
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  4. MrV

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    You've quite the imagination for a misanthropic, homophobic, and myopic mouth breathing idiot.

    Perhaps next you'll (finally) contribute something of value?

    As for people I can talk to, I also enjoy yakking with Tasha.

    You're just a herpes blister on these gambling forums, Blackhole, but hey, it's only words on a screen.
     
  5. MDawg

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    I hereby SHROUD UNKewlJ until further notice.

    Put UNKewlJ on never mind...at 3:45
     
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  6. RobSinger

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    And I do believe BH hit a very sensitive kew nerve with that one.....:)

    All in all, a very good way to leave dumb, dumber, and dumbest to ponder kew's concocted lies, and like all degenerates, all to themselves.....
     
  7. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    Wonderful!

    3 of the 4 members of the 'troll patrol' have decided on their own to stop trolling. This is what I have been asking management for. I can post without them responding with lies.

    Coach belly, will you agree as well?

    Might make this forum worth posting at again. :)

    What I will ask of management is to gold these guys to it.

    And to think...these geniuses came up with this themselves. :cool:
     
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  8. MrV

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    Robert, while I have some question about KJ's backroom claiim I am not yet to the point of disbelieving his claim.

    I base that on my many years of reading and absorbing his prolific posts: he seems to be both sincere and knowledgeable.

    It may be that the backroom story was an elaborate troll, and if so, more power to him: were I in his shoes I'd have been much less tolerant of the sadistic shit you and the other hyenas regularly dump on him.

    KJ tempest meme.jpg
     
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  9. RobSinger

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    I've read the same stuff V, and I, as the majority of posters have chimed in on, have very little doubt about his relevance and attention-seeking needs--and the lengths he goes to attain them--then resorts to name-calling, personal attacks and especially lies, whenever anyone dares comment on his weakness with it. I've run into these type people all over the world, only they're not the kind who are afraid to talk to you face-to-face.

    You've noticed how he often capitulates to many of his social faults while concurrently blaming others for behavior exactly like his. That's part of what he believes to be cover for the enormous numbers of lies, mis-directions, and missteps along with his not-so-hidden spins, he uses as deflection shields from the truth. Insecurity that his fabrications will be acknowledged by the masses is what guides him; fear of it is what drives him. If you don't know him, one could pick him out of a line up just by the telltale look on his face.

    Everybody has their opinions and you're certainly entitled to yours. But remember: he puts a great deal of interest in being anonymous while at the same time delivering an even greater interest in divulging unusual amounts of personal and otherwise unsolicited details on his history, what he thinks is an "interesting" life, his unimpressive family history and, in fact, VERY unimpressive clan who support him, and his separate yet totally concocted tale of living the life of a BJ pro who does nothing but "win and win again"--curiously, something he precisely accuses myself of doing--and ESPECIALLY mdawg.

    There's nothing elaborate about it V. As someone who has never worked and uses the government as his crutch, he took advantage of this new social media phase and read up on the casino game that has most addicted him so he could appear to be someone he definitely is not. As far as innovative goes, it's pretty low on the ingenuity scale as hoaxes go these days. His sad generation is chock full of these imposters who troll social media 24/7. He thought creating a claim of constantly winning $100k/year during a time when most of the best known BJ pros severely cut back or hung it up completely because of the newer and more effective tools the casinos have to combat counters, was exceptional. That's how unprepared and out of touch he was when he jumped into this arena.

    You never see him submit pictures of ANYTHING, and that's for a reason. And all the obvious contradictions he found himself dealing with on this latest last-gasp backrooming story--such as "the casino immediately sent video over to my attorney" and "I'm not allowed to name the casino per my agreement" when all civil cases are publicly available in Clark County, etc.? Nuff said!

    However, it's all just crazy entertainment for me as I believe it is for you and almost everyone else too. No harm/no foul, and his lies about me really go nowhere anyway. I see him as just another kook from his lazy generation, which was followed by an even lazier and more confused generation.

    In short--kew is living proof that civilization is in rapid decline. I only smile because I was fortunate enough to have lived thru the absolute best time this earth has given us, and to have been a child of our greatest generation.

    Reality: It's not what you think.
     
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  10. Mickey Crimm

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    I thought you said you read Singer's articles back in the day. He said more than once he drove to and from Vegas once a week for years to play video poker. Never said anything about living there. Always called Vegas a shithole.
    But let's talk about how many times you were at the DI compared to how many times I was at the DI. You keep stepping in it, bozo. Then tell us about teaching or not teaching your friends how to work sports betting promotions.
     
  11. KewlJ

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    So I see Rob was able to stick to the 'troll patrols' self agreement to ignore me for what 10, 12 hours? He will say he didn't respond to me, that he responded to MrV, but the premise by Blackhole was to ignore me and I would go away. Rob couldn't do that because I am on his mind 24-7.

    It is funny how Rob categorizes his long running troll, and made up bullshit as fun and entertainment, but when he thinks I have done the same thing, he calls it something else. Always a double standard with these guys. And how dare Rob say anyone "resorts to name-calling, personal attacks and especially lies". THIS has been the Rob Singer Playbook for decades.

    Rob just cannot accept that I do what I do for a living because there are two things he doesn't like about me. That I am gay and my age. He constantly raves about how much he hates the younger generation. So how the fuck can some younger, gay guy do what I claim, despite the fact that Rob knows nothing......not a single thing about blackjack play, advantage play or put them together Card counting and blackjack advantage play.

    There are two major holes in Rob's rant. The first is that so many people now know where I live as a result of these kinds of individuals. How the fuck do I live where I live if my story is not true. And don't give me the male prostitute and works at a burger joint bullshit. If I did something other than what I have shared, it would have been proven by now. Especially with people claiming they have sourscs in the FBI and CIA working on it.
     
  12. KewlJ

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    I am breaking this into parts for easier reading. This second part deals with Rob's claims about card counting in Las Vegas, again something he knows zero about and yes it will be long. He is right that there are not many players left that do ONLY card counting, and for a living. Most players have moved on to other things because there now are so many AP opportunities and most have bigger edges than card counting. There are some that card counting is a part of what they do. Only a few of us left that it is the primary play that we use.

    But there still are some that employ card counting as their main play and do so at a level that they can support themselves. If I had to guess, I would guess a dozen pure card counters working this town fulltime. Maybe a few more maybe a few less. I arrive at this number because I run into them, or at least did when I played more and played more of the local places than I do now. You have 3 on just these two forums, Myself, my brother and Zenking. (although my brother isn't really on the forums) And yes, whatever people think of Zenking and his occasional rants and venting, the guy has supported himself from card counting in Las Vegas for more than 5 years now. There are a few others on some other more blackjack related forums and platforms. And of course there are some that participate on NO forums or platforms.

    There is nothing that particularly makes this moment in time any worse for card counting in Vegas. Yes there are some advances in technology. There are always advances in technology. There are ways around most of that. For every action there is a reaction. For example, most casinos have a program that evaluates players. This means someone isn't standing there counting down with the player. It is computerized and at the end of the evaluation, there are results that say the player bet with the count xx% of the time. If the evaluation results are concerning to the casino they will back off the player, if they are not, say the player has holes in their game, they may decide to do nothing.

    But that particular technology only works when an evaluation is ordered. The trick is to not even get to that point and it isn't that hard to do. In other words, your play has to first concern some pit guy who then orders the evaluation from above. Short sessions and aggressive exits after bigger bets, not showing the retreat to a smaller bet are two of the major ways around this. It is that retreating back to a small wager that really is the biggest tell. A player can choose to eliminate this completely.

    Betting limits is also a big part of this equation. I have discussed all this before, so no reason to get too far into it, but the players that play for a living in Vegas are playing limits that are better tolerated. That translates into earning, somewhere between 40k and 100k, depending on how much you play. Maybe there are a couple players that make a bit less. Maybe 30k, because they play a bit lower limits or put in less time. Maybe they have a wife or girlfriend that works or are retired and receive social security or other retirement money and don't have to earn as much. But there are definitely more than a few card counters remaining that make a living or a significant portion of their living from card counting, regardless of what Mr Know-nothing Rob Singer states.

    There are just a whole bunch of things, some small, some big, that a player can do that will allow him to probably avoid the trigger of an evaluation. An if an evaluation is ordered, it takes 30 minutes minimum. Short sessions and early exits will result in a whole bunch of partial evaluations. And an incomplete evaluation is trash and filed as such.

    I have done a good job in specializing and identifying what it takes and what is needed to play advantage blackjack (card counting). And I am proud of that. But the truth is whatever remaining card counters are left does the exact same thing. they learn what they can and can't do. What is and isn't tolerated.

    Anybody saying the stupid shit that Rob says about card counting and why it is impossible to do so today, just is someone that doesn't know about the subject matter they are speaking of. In Rob's case it has been obvious that he knew nothing about card counting since the first day I engaged with him. Others too. And that is kind of a really fucked up thing when people talk about something like they know what the fuck there talking about, when it is obvious to everyone, even a novice they haven't got a clue. To that end....meet Rob Singer.
     
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  13. KewlJ

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    I do want to clarify that this number I have come up with, a dozen give or take, does not include teams of card counter AP that come through Vegas several times a year. Nor does it include teams of AP's based in Vegas that do all sorts of AP plays and may hit on a card counting opportunity here and there. I am talking fulltime, or close to it, mid level card counters that mainly only engage in card counting.
     
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  14. RobSinger

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    As predicted....and mocked: a THREEPEAT! Psst ...it happens when you know you're full of shit and others very likely aren't buying any of it :)

    For the record, kew has done exactly as I said he would the day he perpetrated this silly "back-rooming" hoax onto the forums: he says he got a monetary settlement and terms that "cannot be disclosed" (of course, he said the same thing about the casino's name--one of his many lies throughout this juvenile fiasco) he says he can't say any more about it, NO ONE anywhere--even LVRJ reporters and attorneys--can locate a thing about it in public records, he obfuscates the entire issue by claiming "the news has already contacted him" and he fears it'll all come out in the open, he thanks his lawyer who BTW has an assistant who's never heard of him, he's provided no rationale as to why a "broken arm" doesn't translate into a felony arrest situation, and you can tell all he wants to do is sweep the whole ball of wax entirely under the rug. Expect no news story, no atty. statement, and no casino name. Ever.

    Of course, liberal lap dog MrV willingly goes on record as a lackey, readily accepting kew's pile of attention-seeking bs simply because he can't stand mdawg or me.

    Kew claims "others have found it". But will he ever state who these folks are? OF COURSE NOT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXIST EITHER.

    If you've been had by this, shame on you. We ALWAYS see how fast kew likes to come back at me every time I expose him for the liar he is. So if this case REALLY IS FILED and ONLY HIS FRIENDS CAN FIND IT, why would he not post the location info right here/right now!? He infers "it'll all be out soon anyway". Why not put an end to it and get off the pot?
     
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  15. redietz

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    No, Rob did NOT always call Las Vegas a shithole. Not accurate at all. I read about a third of his GT pieces over the duration of his writing. I do not recall one single time in those articles where he referred to Las Vegas negatively. In fact, I have several of those GT here, and no negative Las Vegas references. Now what he wrote in the two-thirds of his articles I did not read, I have no idea.

    But clearly, he did NOT always call Las Vegas a shithole. He wrote dozens of pieces with no negative reference to Las Vegas at all. Also, the third of the articles I read made no reference to his living in Pahrump. Zero.

    I happened to know he had a place in Pahrump. I also looked to buy property in Pahrump. I checked on one place next to a golf course. I hadn't seen golf courses without grass before; you see something new every day. But there were no references in The Undeniable Truth GT articles that I read to his living in Pahrump. I just happened to have been told that he had a place there.

    I was at the DI every week, probably twice, for 16 or 17 football seasons. So let's round down and say 25 times a year for 17 years. I'd say closer to 600 times, given that I went more often in the late '90s. I give up, mickey, how often were you at the Desert Inn?

    Mickey, you make up a lot of stuff, buddy. Must be part of that "AP" gene.
     
  16. KewlJ

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    I see Rob broke his troll pact with blackhole and MDawg, yet again.

    Just couldn't do it could ya Rob. No one thought you could, so you are surprising no one.
     
  17. KewlJ

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    Here is an example of Rob's bullshit:

    I have not named the attorney that represented me in this case.

    So Rob is "assuming". And now he is saying that an assistant based on that assumption, has never heard of me.

    Rob is stacking nonsense on top of nonsense. He doesn't know my name, nor does he know for sure the attorney involved.

    When is enough of this guy and his top secret sources that don't exist?
     
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  18. Mickey Crimm

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    How dumb can you get, ditz? Of course Rob didn't say anything negative about Vegas in the articles. Were you born stupid? He said it plenty of times in the forums tho. Called them germ infested shitholes.

    You're the one that makes up shit. Probably to cover for your gambling addiction. Were you making up the shit when you said you don't teach family? Or were you making up the shit when you said you DO teach family?

    Rob posted several times about staying at an RV park in Pahrump. I think he said Pahrump was his first experience at RV living. Never wrote about buying property there.

    The DI was on my daily circuit back in the day. Probably been in the place a few hundred times.
     
  19. Mickey Crimm

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    duplicate
     
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  20. redietz

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    Mickey, your meds aren't cutting it. I tell you that as a friend. The forums didn't even exist when the majority of The Undeniable Truth articles were printed. So none of what you were referencing was in any of the GT articles. So why bring it up? There's nothing in any of the GT articles I read that says Rob was living in Pahrump.

    I don't even know what your point is. The "Real Singer" thinks LV is a shithole? So everyone should believe what a dozen, oops -- maybe two dozen, forum folk read as opposed to what thousands of people read for years. Because mickey says so. Because mickey knows "the Real Rob."

    Sure he does.

    And mickey hasn't even been in the Desert Inn as often as I have. Jesus, man, my being in there a few hundred times surprised you? What do you think sports gamblers do? Sit around and make youtube videos?

    Mickey, why do you declare stuff you know nothing about? Let me guess -- it's that "AP" gene again.
     

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