Misc The VCT Thread!

Nice work , your posts are way better than any contribution from the same old same posse that post there.
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It appears the Billy Walters book brought out all the sports betting pros over at VCT. Thread name “Professional Sports betting” Just the fact that Billy Walters states in his book how the gambling operation was set up legitimately should be the first give away that he is full of shit. The fucking crook already spent 3 years in jail regardless what for. Did you expect him to tell the truth about the real inner workings of his scamming? He is a hard gambler. That tags him as a scammer, back stabbing crook.

Everyone of the AP pros over there are just typing in the wind.

Do yourselves a favor if you want to bet sports. Buy a dart board and have some fun with no concern for any money bet.

 

In reference to my above post. If you do have concerns for any money being bet, you shouldn't be betting in the first place.

Remeber, not one of these forum AP pros ever proved a thing except that their keypads work.



keypad
[ kee-pad ]
noun
a separate section on some computer keyboards, grouping together numeric keys and those for mathematical or other special functions in an arrangement like that of a calculator.


That's all we know for sure these AP's have.

 

Well...you have the blackjack APs that go around screaming the math the math. "I'm in my umpteenth year playing $5 tables." The math says these fools couldn't do basic arithmetic. They read a book they couldn't possibly understand and come on forums screaming the math the math. Then when someone posts that they had a good run these same clowns have a meltdown.

Then you have the slot APs...my favorites. From using other peoples' cards to get points for a free hot dog to scouring casino floors for abandoned TITOs. Note to those APs who may be short in stature as well as short on brains....many players leave the TITOs on top of the slot machines so maybe bring a foot stool next time so you can reach. Aye aye captain.

 

First a few comments regarding Mr. Walters.

As I said at VCT, when people ask me who Mr. Walters most reminds me of, I say "JR Ewing." I mean that as both compliment and warning.

Mr. Walters has, for a long time, had the resources and money to camouflage anything he wants. As I said, one has to bear in mind that there is really no way to tell where Mr. Walters ends and sports books begin. In other words, when he guides, say, a Phil Mickelson to bet certain things in certain places, one never really knows what's going on. There could be partnerships, finders' fees of a sort, kickbacks, or outright ownership and control of the places where the bettor is being sent. Impossible to tell. I'm not saying anything that anyone in the world of sports gambling doesn't realize as possible off the top of their head. Obvious caveats.

Second, those of us who have handicapped sports for a living have generally had outside parties reporting seasonal and long-term results. If you can pin down these kinds of verifications, they do hold water. Usually, anyway. There are one or two famous examples where they did not.

But it is a business about 95% nonsense and losers who lie through their teeth, so bear that in mind.

As for the "APs," well, as far as bonus whoring goes, that's fine but extremely limited. Unless they go recruiting family and friends. In which case they are exploiting family and friends for their own income. Sleazy stuff.

 

Definition of “hard gamblers”:

Back Stabbing, crooked, never to be trusted with anything. Usually as low as you cold get on the ladder of life.

 

Lol.

 

Between this forum GF and VCT, and the various other forums where UNKewLyingJ has been banned, the UNKewlJ has been caught in a multiplicity of lies.


The fifteen most major UNKewl lies I can think of concern (1) his lie about Moses showing up at a condo he claimed he lived at, (2) a condo it turned out that he has no ownership in, (3) his faking his own death, (4) lying about ever having been robbed, (5) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records on someone who isn't even MDawg, (6) the backrooming lawsuit, (7) the lie about being doxxed, or ever having his name placed in any casino database, (8) the rigged shuffler, (9) $50. free play for $100K win on a slot progressive, (10) $50K multi hand VP hit, (11) winning a car, (12) the lie about never asking anyone else to prove anything, (13) the lie about knowing attorney Nersesian well or at all, and having him on "speed dial," (14) lied about whether or not he was gay, (15) the lie about even having a dead "soul mate" which he recanted.

That rigged shuffler story, besides not making any sense, reaffirmed in my mind that this guy really doesn't play much table games, because I'd expect such nonsense from a recreational player, not a card counter.

And as usual, as he gets hemmed in, he is changing the story on some of these. Even renounced the existence of his "soul mate" claims he lied about him and his gay marriage too!


Recently he actually admitted to a few lies, including that he had been lying steadily daily for about six months claiming that he was involved in some lawsuit over an alleged backrooming incident. Most recently, he tried to revive the fable, by trying to claim that he had in fact received a $300K settlement over the fictional incident. He kept changing his story over how the money landed in his bank account, until finally, fed up with his nonsense, I offered to pay him the full amount of his settlement if he could prove that the settlement had really arrived in his account (on a Saturday - a non banking day - no less, was when he claimed to have received the electronic fund transfer).

After a little back and forth when UNKewlJ kept changing the terms of the settlement, seedvalue stepped up, accepted UNKewlJ’s terms in their entirety, and offered to pay UnKewlJ $300K and deposit the full sum with DanDruff the owner of the VCT forum, in advance, if UnKewlJ could prove that he received these settlement funds. Predictably, UNKewLyingJ punked out - even to a $300,000. free roll - and said that he no longer wanted to go forward with the wager.

 

I don't know that Dan the Man Druff has EVER bothered to vote in a VCT poll.

Until now.

 

Move to the side a little bit so you can get a clear picture. Can you see it?



DanDruff says:
UNKewlJ is lying. He did not receive any $300K settlement for any backrooming matter.

 

You're correct. I had a good laugh at that. Telling to say the least.

 

We suspected the backroom incident Kewlj lied about was fishy at best because at first he claimed he didn't want to sue despite being supposedly thrown so roughly into a chair that it broke/fractured his arm. We were like,"Kewlj, you need to SUE for assault. They fractured/broke your arm. SUE!" Kewlj was like,"I'm hesitant about suing because I'll lose my anonymity if I sue."

I responded something like,"If you don't want to sue because you want to protect your anonymous, you should at least make them pay your medical bills. If Casino Staff threw me so hard into a chair that my arm got fractured/broken, I'd make them pay my medical bills. Kewlj seemed hesitant even to make them pay his medical bills. I knew something REALLY fishy was going on there.

Kewlj eventually claimed he was going to sue after all and we were like,"You should have BEEN suing them right off the bat!" Kewlj soon after said that he got the settlement but his settlement details were murky at best, and he claimed he got the settlement on a SATURDAY which was just bizarrely fishy.

He admitted he lied about the Lawsuit. I was appalled (Shocked and disgusted) because I actually believed the Lawsuit lie. I even voted on a VCT Poll that I believed Kewlj was telling the truth, but my vote NEVER went through, thank God. I remember saying something like,"Kewlj, you lied about the Lawsuit? I believed you! I'm going to permanently doubt what you say since you lied about the Lawsuit."

In the latest,"Do you believe Kewlj actually won 300K in the Lawsuit Settlement?" I voted no, especially since Kewlj admitted he LIED. Two people actually believed that Kewlj actually won even after he admitted he lied. I thought,"What two weirdos STILL believe Kewlj actually won 300K in the Lawsuit Settlement after he admitted he lied?" Kewlj and Boz voted they believed that Kewlj actually won 300K in the Lawsuit Settlement. Kewlj voting yes was just beyond weird since he admitted he lied. If this man has any integrity he would have voted no, perhaps as an act of contrition. Boz voting yes is bizarre too since Boz seems like he would know better.

 

VCT forum is dead and useless. Mdawg, Singer, Mrpot, Kewlj, 3 or 4 other members, and the owner Dan the Dumbo, are just as useless.

Imagine owning a site like that and letting it evolve to a complete disaster worse than opening and reading endless spam mail. Then the idiot owner volunteers to hold 300K in cash for a bet dumber than he is that will never happen. No one on that site ever saw 300k cash.

A site that is supposed to be talking about Vegas casinos, is nothing but a place that exposes how stupid and dumb most gamblers are.

I am embarrassed to say I participated on that site. I did enjoy the back and forth with members, but nothing ever came to an end. I say in 3 years from now you could visit the site if it still exists and Mdawg, and Kewlj will still be repeating the same shit. Dan the Dumbo will not ban any of them cause the site would become non-existent.

At least I joined when Alan owned it and it did contain assorted gambling talk. I did stop posting for awhile and when I did go back, I eventually realized it would be best to get banned and made sure it happened.

Added: I just read Tasha's post above this one. Now there's a voice of reasoning. I rest my case....

 

I disagreed with Alan very often, but I liked Alan and really respected Alan. He was a top notch journalist with some bad habits when it came to math.

Check out the VCT "professional sports betting" thread's latest bullshit-fest. MDawg, if you are reading this, my response is under Sports Betting on this site. It's just sad. Todd should never allow this kind of bullshitting to permeate that site. It's disguised as serious reporting of fact.

 

OK then, what gambling forums do you respect and currently post on?

 

Replying toy you will obviously show I used bad judgment again.

I once posted on WOV, VCT, and this one. I have been banned from WOV from Shank the owner himself for exposing his lies more than once with confirmed way back data. I have been banned from VCT from the owner Dan the Dumbo, on purpose I might add. Now I occasionally post only here on threads like this one dedicated to the assholes (my opinion) at VCT.

Some back and forth could be fun to read, but you fools took that to a whole new level. In my personal opinion, I consider you one of the dumbest fucks over there only second to Kewlj. It is a close third between Singer and the Dawg. The rest of the fools do not even deserve a mention.

Mind you this is my personal opinion.

 

Good time to promote your and kewlj bareback blowjobblackjack [email protected]. Surely you both would be getting a return on the $2:50 site investment by now. Keep up the good work guys. Cheers

 

No surprise really Karen as there are many people using kewlj account, his/she/it’s/ non binary own admission ( possibly another lie, lol) that many different people use and post on that one account name. It’s quite probable that the other users didn’t get the memo, as that seems to happen quite often …. those hillbillies aren’t always on the same page on any of the forums on the interverse that they infect.
Also he lies even to himself and often has arguments with his own sock puppetry, he she it thinks it makes his she it’s posts SEEM credible, rlmao.
Cheers

 

Always good to fear from the fans in the cheap seats.

 

Inspector Redietz Clouseau is at it again. Only HE knows the truth, the way, and the light. Any speech he doesn't agree with should be censored. Typical fascist bastard. Also ignorant.

PS: Blackhole is a faggot.