Misc The VCT Thread!

Funny how forum members look up to Dumbo Dan just because he owns and runs a couple gambling forums.

Personally I believe what he does is just a confirmation of him being a compulsive degenerate gambler. Big deal he won a million dollars playing poker (before taxes) The average person today makes that in 5 or 6 years. Especially in today's market. Look at his compulsive sports gambling. He bets on every sport available. To top it off he sucks at it. I know, I know he had one good year in one sport.

Yet, the morons on these forums look up to him like they do with that other asshole on WOV, (Shank) who allegedly hit lotto with the sale of that shit hole forum.

Dan this, Dan that, Dan knows better, etc., etc., etc.

Grow up and knock the stupid shit off. He should never qualify as someone to look up to. The people that do are just dumb gamblers themselves, that envy these stupid fucking gambling forums.

 

[QUOTE="Blackhole, post: 169701, member: 1834" Big deal he won a million dollars playing poker (before taxes) The average person today makes that in 5 or 6 years.[/QUOTE]

Uh...time for a fact check.

per google...

"What is the median income for employed Americans?


U.S. income by gender: The median male salary in 2022 was $52,612. The median female salary was $39,688, 75% of what men earned, for full-time workers.Sep 18, 2023"

 

Yes, you are right about the salaries. I was going by where I live and most people I hang with.

Regardless, Dumbo Dan gives off all the signals that he is more than likely a compulsive gambler. Any amount of money would be irrelevant.

There must be a reason why he would even keep a forum like VCT alive. One dollar a month would be to much just to give a platform for the small group of trolls that endlessly post meaningless shit there.

Usually, it is the back door PM ability that gives people like him and Shank (WOV) a way to get free two-bit plays to keep the gambling compulsion going. The site serves no other logical purpose. Just take a look at your own (Mr.V) posts for proof of meaningless, senseless, stupidity. Then read the queer for the cherry on top.

No doubt Dumbo Dan if he is not already, he will eventually end up a broken-down shoe like most if not all his forum members.

 

Posting is a form of social interaction, BH.

You or course are free to deem my posts as "meaningless, senseless stupidity," that's fine with me.

Not sure whether professional poker players like Dan are compulsive gamblers, as I assume he has some control over his actions, but I suspect that he and all other pros and AP's are at minimum flirting with addiction.

 

I have no way of evaluating someone like "Dan" without doing a thorough background check, which would cost a couple thousand and is not something I'm likely to pay for. I'm getting a shot in at most poker players with this (I play some poker, but not near pro level). Basically, as far as YouTube sports gamblers and "poker pros" go, you can't evaluate their financial situation unless you know how much cash their parents had/have. Many "poker pros" are basically trust fund kids whose parents decided to pave their way, hoping it became a profession. If your kid can't make it at a cut rate law school or pharmacy college (the California go-to for providing your kid a profession), then bankroll some poker for a while. Might not cost more than one of those small liberal arts colleges in Pennsylvania with 60K or 70K per year tuition.

Then you have sports gamblers trying to garner YouTube views while waxing eloquent about all sports and making pennies per view. While, as Blackhole mentioned, attracting "investors."

Unless you know someone's personal finances and financial angels (or lack thereof), it's impossible to get a handle on how they have really done with actual gambling as opposed to "sales." Unless you can look up, for example, a years-long, comprehensive against-the-spread monitored record for sports gamblers. If someone has won significantly more games ATS than he's lost, or has nailed some verifiable long shot futures, then it's likely they have won gambling. Not guaranteed (they could be a degenerate gambling at other things), but at least you have a positive verifiable starting point.

 

No it’s not,
What a crock of crap.
You as per usual have just reiterated for the umpteenth time another UNVERIFIED claim of being a successful fantasy player. Once again you are using time, historical posts to validate and launder your bogus claims.
Why are you posting this crap?
Your only posts apart from complaining to mommy/daddy admin, is to constantly reiterate your bogus claims.
You offer ZERO in way of a plausible explanation as to how you get to win you bogus selections apart from oh I won another fantasy atm league, the atm is not a typo by the way.
You constantly fluff yourself up on various threads here, you mostly are tone deaf in your posts as they 98% of the time centre around your bogus claims and have quite often zero context whatsoever with what is being discussed on that thread, recent posts etc.

Do you have a mental health issue?
Are you feeling insecure?
Are you lacking in confidence?

Quite frankly there is ZERO explanation as to why you constantly post the same thing over and over, the only respite is you occasionally change the wording but the premise is exactly the same, I win atm fantasies because I keep telling you people over and over and over and over again.
At least have some consideration for the future aliens reading your posts they are hardly going to trawl through mountains of crap that say basically “I win fantasy atm” , read one post .
got the jist gawlkz168?
Roger , zatx439, I’ll delete the rest of diet coke garbage, no loss .

Really, I’m sure you are aware that there is an extra dozen suicids after you post another inane bogus article about your supposed expertise on fantasies Atm , fuck I’m considering just popping a round off in my head every time I come across one of your crap posts.
At least what kewlj posts about blackjack is believable, he does give credible information ( plagiarised or not) to anyone that wants to pick up the dark art of card counting , but you diet coke, zip, zero other than the insane notion that you are jerking off as you post your bogus fantasy atm claims.
Sick fuck

 

What percentage of professional gamblers win long term? (Google)

"Unfortunately, though, a professional winning gambler percentage is only about 3%. The vast majority end up losing money in the long run. Still, that small chance of glory keeps people coming back for more. Jan 20, 2024"

Just look up the pro poker players and hard gamblers you know about and see where they are today. Don't forget most presently tagged successful gamblers today have a long way to go to end up that way.

 

I'm not sure that I posted three times regarding fantasy sports and fantasy leagues. I'm not sure I posted once. Fantasy sports and fantasy leagues are a big topic these days.

Everything I've posted regarding spread and no-spread contests is accurate and verifiable.

 

You are certainly right about the high failure rate in gambling. If anybody could do it then everybody would be doing it. I suggest you and ditz the shitz find something more constructive to do with your time than fretting all day every day about whether I'm successful or not. Tell you what, go ahead and assume I'm a failure. I certainly don't care if you do. And you two can then move on with your lives.

 

All I got to say is I'm seventy years old and spent lots of time in casinos and traveled the world in my younger years. All the gamblers I met were losers and never met a life long successful gambler.

Not until I visited gambling forums did I realize that the 3% of successful live long gamblers are all over the place. Then again I didn't believe in Mickey Mouse till I visited Disney Land.

 

You're looking at it all wrong, at least from the recreational gambler side of things.

Yeah, I know, you're dissing AP's...but hear me out.

Most of us gamble recreationally; not sure if the degenerates fall into that category, but assuming a player has a modicum of discipline and is not out of control, they gamble "for fun."

We realize we play negative expectation games and expect to lose in the long run: but we play in the short run where anything can and sometimes does happen.

So, when valuing whether one is "successful" in a casino, the sole criteria is not whether they win: include how much fun they get.

Were I to spend a lot of money to travel, or go on a safari, or buy expensive electronics: the deciding factor is not whether at the end of the day it was "worth it" monetarily, but whether I got "bang for my buck."

Me, I gamble in casinos about once a week; doing my taxes, I added up my win / loss for the year and it cost me an average of $263 per month in losses.

No regrets: YMMV.

 

MrV you make a very logical and obvious opinion for most people that visit casinos. But I am talking about the people that do nothing but gamble as their source of income.

Based on all the different posts we read about hard gamblers over the years, it sounds like a hard way to confirm an income. Different teams of players fighting each other for a place at the table. That AP poster at VCT (forgot his name) saying how it is a backstabbing, cheating, me-myself- fight to the finish. People exposing and killing plays. That is just a small handful of the shit we read about. Just how many different plays can exist to fill the amount of people into this crap, and for how long?

If it is a fact that only 3% of life long hard gamblers make it to the end supporting who knows what, and retiring in good shape; that is a statistic I do not want to be any part of.

Of course, Micky Crimm alleged famous AP must make it all about him. No one gives a fuck one way or the other if he was one of the gifted 3% winners. I never assumed he was a failure nor would I care. My topic was about how bad the stats look to be successful gambling for a living.

I thought it was all about the math? I do not mean for just a few games. I mean for 50 or 60 years of games.

 

I forgot to mention in above post, all the AP’s getting trespassed. To make a living gambling you must spend most of your working hours in the fucking casino.

Based on most AP’s the casino operators are stupid mother fuckers who are confirmed making endless billions of dollars a year.

“Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” … comes from “Hamlet" by Shakespeare. It means something is not quite right around here.

 

No argument on your points from me, BH.

The life of an AP must be a rather odd one.

I'm guessing that by the time someone decides that is what they want to do for a living they're already neck deep in a gamblin' jones, and that devoting their life to gamblin' only further cements the addiction in their psyche.

Are AP's bull shitting themselves about why they do it?

Is it for the money or because they simply have to rationalize their need to gamble?

As a non-AP gambler I must confess that I enjoy reading their tales of casino play, and some of the concepts (card counting, edge sorting, vulturing} seem plausible enough, IF a player can continue to use them year in, year out without detection.

But it seems a rather boring, time consuming way to earn a living: me, I'd not enjoy spending my working life in casinos.

Wouldn't it be a buzz-kill, stifling the "fun?"

To each his own, and to those who go down that road: "good luck, you're gonna need it."

 

Just another AP fantasy taking place at WOV and VCT forums.

It is amazing how far some people are willing to go on these forums just to create more back and forth bullshit about gambling fantasies. Personally, I believe the whole effort of Mission at WOV trying to figure out MDawg’s win / lose record over the years, is just a ploy to improve readership at a dying, shithole, useless forum. (personal opinion)

I think almost all big casino wins either luck or AP involved have become public knowledge. We all read the articles, usually involving a few million dollars. Other than expected luck these wins will never happen again being brought to an obvious stop. These big wins could probably be count on one hand.

With anyone familiar with or read most of MDawgs posts or threads, have any amount of brain mass and common sense, must realize it is all fantasy fiction writing. If a person believes MDawgs writings, a good comparison would be the same type of person that believes our president Joe Biden was not involved with how the Biden Crime Family embezzled millions of dollars from foreign countries. The definition of this person would be a full-blown fool in denial for one reason or the other.

These forums are full of claims of gambling wealth. If you read them, you cannot help but wonder how casinos could even still exist.

Reading gambling forums are no different then having the hobby of reading comic books. For me, reading MDawg was like reading Superman comics.

 

If you are looking for a good laugh about the days and lives of a few AP’s, you need to read this thread over at VCT named “Here you go AxelWolf”. It mostly dwells on the famous AP AxelWolf the great. I am not sure what the first 31 pages really go on about only scanning through it. Of course, it appears to be the typical all over the place nonsense thread especially dealing with the same small group of degenerate gamblers. So just go to the last page for now page “32” where this AP a new poster gets into AxelWolf the great.

In the defense of AxelWolf these writings are taking place on Dumbo Dans forum and everything should be viewed as bullshit. But sometimes there are plenty of truths being exposed. With no doubt something happened here as the back and forth is hilarious. In one of Axels responses in the thread, it reads like he might have been drinking while responding.

Earlier in the thread the alleged VCT AP’s like Maxpad, Seedvalue, mickeycrimm, even Rob Singer tries coming to the aid of AxelWolf the great. Of course, this poster against the great must be a thieving bum. No fucking way could the great be guilty of anything. Especially when it comes to the real life of AP’s being exposed.

AxelWolf bragged for years how he recruited many AP’s and taught them the ropes. Why when anyone speaks out about him it is always trash, except of course his forum posting pen pals? When will someone come out of AP cover and tell how AxelWolf introduced him or her to AP’ing and led their family to a great life gambling for a living like his personal life claims are?

AxelWolf volunteered for a lie detector test. Now really, does anyone even care one way or the other about this low life phony way of making a living, or his credibility? Maybe it means something to him to help recruiting suckers through the PM avenues on these forums. There has to be a reason for him to be posting at all. Especially, if hes that clever. Let’s not forget about that 3% of gamblers who are successful.

YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

 

“Seedvalue” who in my opinion after reading tons of his AP claims of casino wealth at VCT, is just another asshole phony like Axelwolf, Maxipad, Kewlj, etc. at that site. These named posters and a few others are what gives question to why anyone would be willing to supply a site to give these bullshit artists a place to bullshit their phony lives away.

Seedvalue today in the thread “from the river to the sea” questions Dan Druff’s legitimacy about his claim of investigating fraud.

I once found a couple postings of different people online accusing him of the same concerns with stories to back their concerns up. I posted them on his VCT site and they went unanswered and eventually lost on the site somewhere. Of course, reading stories posted online is no different then believing in the tooth fairy. Yet, many times there is a legitimate reason for the posting.
I always suspected something fishy about the “Druff” and personally believed his sites were designed to give him internal information that would give him an advantage in his compulsive gambling. I believe he does not care an iota about his members and these sites are all about personal gain. No different then AxelWolf finding the need to post on these forums when he is the alleged master of APing. It makes no sense other then there being some type of personal gain for a person that is considered a master at his trade. Is he planning on opening a AP school?
.

I have no confirmed proof of anything I just posted. Hopefully Seedvalue will elaborate on his post with more confirmed detail.

Also do not forget I am one of the only persons ever nuked from VCT for posting a you tube video of an annoying violin. Yet, Kewlj just told Druff to go fuck himself and guess what? “Crickets” He would never ban him since he is responsible for 98% of all hits the site gets. People just love to read about a gay compulsive lying faggot getting hammered day after day by another bunch of degenerates.

Like I always say “Something is Rotten in Denmark.” Actually, “Something is Rotten in VCT.”

 

In that thread
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/showthread.php?7365-UNKewlJ-use-of-the-n-word
I freely note every pejorative I have ever used against UNKewlJ, and the forum owner there Dan Druff green lighted anything I have said against UNKewlJ, but has repeatedly censured KewlJ for his anti-semitic and gratuitous racist words.

So you have to assume - at a forum (VCT) where practically "anything goes" how far off the deep end UNKewlJ has gone to be actually censured, repeatedly.

As well, while at VCT UNKewlJ had repeatedly whined about alleged doxxing by MDawg, UNKewlJ remains the only one who has ever been censured at VCT for doxxing. No one else has been verified to have doxxed, other than UNKewlJ.

 

Doxing is defined as publishing private or identifying information about a particular individual on the internet, typically with malicious intent.

Posting information about and active advantage player trying to remain anonymous from the casino industry is clearly doxing. The malicious intent is to harm that player's career and thus him financially. That is what you did.

I posted a name someone had passed to me, and the online college and online law school that person attended. No information about where that person lived or anything like that. And the intent was so that members of these forums who were interested and had the ability to do so, could look and see that the claims being make of 4 different forums were not real. I don't know how you can call that "malicious intent".

You have said repeatedly in the past couple years that the name I posted wasn't you. If it wasn't, then there was no doxing. If I say MrV is really Jeff Bezo, when he is not, then I haven't doxxed him. Just the same as there is no murder if no one died.

With your "verified to dox" comment, you now seem to be admitting the person mentioned was you. Whatever.

The simple facts are this: You have for more than 5 years made claims of playing and winning 4.6 million dollars from casinos (total courtesy of Mission146, who added it all up last week), winning 87% of your sessions and days played (also courtesy of Mission146 report). During that time you have averaged 150 days a year playing in casinos and being comped high end suites. That means you were playing rated, which you also have always claimed.

The fact is Las Vegas casinos, and the casino industry in general just doesn't now sit there and allow people to win like you claim and comp them high end suites on top and tell them how great they are (which you have also claimed). THAT just is not the way this industry and/or city works and every member of every forum, whether they be advantage player, professional or not, or recreational gambler, KNOW this is not the way this city or industry works. They are NOT handing out buckets of money for the taking. They counter-measure and ban players that they haven't even figured out how they are winning. One more time: Las Vegas and the casino industry just does NOT allow a player to win like you have claimed for 5+ years.

Now don't confuse that with advantage players that do win long-term. There are such players doing all sorts of things and we work at it. We work at it by spreading our play around, and that includes many casinos as well as traveling to other areas. We work at it by playing short sessions, especially table game players, so we don't win too much at one siting. And we work at it by playing unrated, unless The AP is doing something with machines that requires rated play, and then they often have a number of cards and accounts.

The great adventure of Mdawg and winning millions, playing rated with no countermeasures while the casinos and casino personél cheer him on is as phony as Jack climbing the beanstalk to slay the giants. It is not how things work on almost every level. And your attacks and name-calling of not just myself, but any real player that dared say this, only proves it is not real. Now for what reason you are continuing to push this fantasy....that I don't know. Maybe someday you will tell us.