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Calling me a toxic piece of shit when I've been nice to you until you insulted me multiple times even after I was lenient and nice enough to not press charges on you the first time you insulted me a couple of days ago on WOV and you continuing to insult me on other Websites shows that you weren't actually going to stop insulting me, you just were going to continue insulting me on other Websites. Even Wizard thought I should have pressed charges on you. Chump Change said something like,"You REALLY should have pressed charges against Mr. V he will not stop insulting you, he will just keep insulting you on other Websites."

You implying you hope someone spills sulphuric acid on me is beyond unacceptable and could be implied as a death wish for me. Sulphuric acid is one of the most dangerous chemicals in the world, so you making that post would be grounds for a permanent banning on most Websites. I got a permanent ban for asking Posters to name their favorite Posters, and I wasn't even a problem Poster on that Website, so I definitely know that you implying you hope someone spills one of the most dangerous chemicals in the world on me is grounds for a permanent banning on most Websites.

 

I never threatened you: get a grip.

Boz said that you won this round; I don't think either of us have won anything: my suspension was
expected and means little to me; there are other forums, such as this, where we can continue our conversation.

You're such an oddity on these forums...like a two-headed calf...I just can't stop staring in quasi-disbelief.

 

To clarify: I was a bit surprised I got suspended for that particular post as I thought I'd crafted it well enough to avoid it, but I knew it would happen eventually as the Wiz has adopted this two-headed calf as his pet and you are now under his protection.

I suspect he reads VCT and GF and is aware of what I've posted about you there, and he takes it into account.

Whatever.

 

UNKewlJ asks for the treatment he receives. He won't let up on his lies. He doxxes, he threatens to doxx, he threatens to report people to outside authorities, he threatens to shoot, stab. Constantly hypocritical, constantly contradictory.

What has someone like Karen/Nathan done to deserve contumely? Okay sure if you find her posts humorous, but so what? It might be fine even to poke fun at her, but these kinds of bitter attacks are uncalled for, and should be reserved for UNKewlJ.

 

Actually, the word "implying" in your sentence above is incorrect. Also the word "hope." You, Karen Nathan, are making things up. What MrV wrote involved neither implication nor hoping. You should be banned for lying about his post. How dare you frame yourself as a victim by using lies.

What MrV wrote is properly interpreted as a PREDICTION. He is PREDICTING that your behavior over all these years is going to lead you to getting a lapful of sulfuric acid.

Frankly, I think he is being too mild with his prediction. Your behavior, in my opinion, is more likely to result in a crowbar to the head FOLLOWED by a lapful of sulfuric acid. Likely followed by other stuff. Again, just a prediction from someone (me) who has actually in person seen what a lapful of sulfuric acid can do.

 

Yes, my attacks are unseemly, although I'd not call them "bitter."

It's more like how I used to pick on my sister (she was ten years younger): hello, tough love.

I'll have to think about it...

 

So Dawg you are debating why we are making fun of a retard. I assume you are accepting she (it) is mentally challenged but you don’t think KJ is, correct?

I can prove it has lied far more times than KJ and will gladly post the “I promise it’s not me” socks myself, Axel and others called the retard out on. Far more than the 31 times you are calling KJ out on.

So if you want to call him out for his lies, you have to be fair and call the retard out for its lies. Excuses don’t fly, they are both admitted liars.

 

MrV, you were suspended because Mdawg and Nathan/tasha complained. Simple as that. Wizard has this weird policy that something is only suspendable if someone complains. lets take that into the real world. If you murder someone is it only a crime if the dead person or his family complain? Just another oddity from the man that calls himself 'Wizard'.

Boz, Mdawg labeling anyone a liar is pure gold. The only person on these forums that is even in the ballpark with Mdawg as far as lying and fabricating everything he claims is Rob Singer. That is the horserace right there. No one else is even close.

I have lied about exactly 2 things on Mdawgs list. The lawsuit part of my backroom incident last summer, when I wanted to deflect or steer people away from what was really going on (because it was identifying), and the death thing 13 years ago, when I panicked after being robbed.

Not a single other thing on this persons list is a lie, and not a single thing can he or anyone else prove is a lie. He is free to believe whatever he likes, just as everyone is, but him labeling something said a lie does not make it a lie.

I suppose if you want to count a lie of omission about me attending Villanova when I said I didn't go to college, you can count 3. I simply didn't want anyone, looking into my records at Villanova, and identifying me that way. It is funny, that all these precautions I have taken it was done with protecting myself from casino personnel or related database company personnel. I didn't really foresee some lying troll on internet gambling forums. But that is what we have.

If you want a list of lies, I can come up with way, way more that 31 for this Mdawg person. And these aren't just opinions that I don't believe him. These are things he has said, and retracted, backtracked on, or scrubbed clean, as in the case of the "mid 7 figure Las Vegas mansion".

In a conversation in the last week with a forum administrator (not this forum), that used to own his forum but now is administrator, I guess, the gentleman said, he is "very aware that Mdawg has changed his claims and story many times over the years". That is a direct quote....word for word. And yet the person will not say that publicly. Publicly he continues to protect this nonsense that is the "adventure of Mdawg".

So what are you going to do? You simply can not force people to be honest.

The bottom line is the Mdawg "story" continues to be just that. None of it is the was Las Vegas or the casino industry works. And much of it defies the math. Just the same way as EvenBob's/spike's ridiculous claims defy the math of it. That is where we are. Mdawgs story puts him right there with Evenbob and Singer as far as "stories".

 

There is one simple fact that trumps (small T) everything else said and claimed, and all the nonsense.

Advantage players, professional or recreational, but most definitely professional, Must do what they can to protect themselves from the casino industry, and that includes off shoots like the database companies, that want and try to stop and disrupt us.

This means we sometimes have to change details or even omit some details and delay telling of experiences.

But this person that posts as Mdawg, he claims he plays rated, that the casinos and casino personnel, love him and comp him accordingly. So he is not hiding or keeping a low profile from the casinos as AP's are. So who is he hiding from? Well the members of the forums that he posts on, that may have the means or ability to look into him and discover that he is not what he claims, and certainly not winning what he claims.

THAT is all this whole thing is about.

 

Enough with the gaslighting, hound.

KJ lives in LV and is a card counter, and he's correctly had your number for years.

No amount of bullying, bullshitting, flaming and lambasting will change the fact that he owns you.

 

No one believes UNKewlJ, not even you.

You’ve explained that at best, “KJ lies because it fits in the drama he wishes to surround himself with.”

You’ve said that at best, “I give him the benefit of the doubt.”

You’ve rationale this as “rooting for the underdog.”

And the reason you half-support UNKewLyingJ is not because you believe him, but to “stir the pot.”

 

And Dan the Man DanDruff wrapped it all up with statements including

 

UNKewJ is lying. With Wizard's permission I post the following:

I spoke to Wizard about this: and he states that he did not say I am "very aware that Mdawg has changed his claims and story many times over the years" - rather he was simply referring to the "about even" statement where MDawg posted a clarification recently versus what was posted in 2021 about that "about even" statement.

Exactly, and UNKewlJ continues with his compulsive lying:

 

Then why post on public forums? Why not restrict your lies to private "AP-only" forums or message groups?

Basically, you just admitted that you have made a decision to perpetually, continually lie (which is what you are describing). And you are saying that all "APs" are in the same boat. So why post in public, to a general audience, if you are continually making stuff up? This is the worst, most self-serving excuse for bullshitting that I have ever read.

If you "need" to bullshit to "protect" your income, go start up an AP-only site and bullshit to your heart's content.

Bullshitting as a default, while criticizing MDawg's bullshitting, is fucking ridiculous. Don't you see that? It turns the whole back-and-forth into a joke and is completely disrespectful to any audience trying to figure out what's real.

 

His UNKewl bullshit about "we sometimes have to change details or even omit some details and delay telling of experiences" is just to try to explain why everything UNKewLyingJ has tried to prove has ended up instead in...proving that he lied as he gets caught in contradiction and lie after contradiction and lie after contradiction and lie after....

As you yourself pointed out,

 

Sure, KJ has lied...so have YOU.

KJ does NOT live in the LV tunnels like you claim he does.

KJ supports himself by gambling, not prostitution as you claim.

KJ counts cards in LV.

 

I suppose it would shock you to know that it is in fact true?

 

The kewl-J is NOT the proficient 21 cards counter! He is, in fact, the threes-card monte huckster and that's how he makes his daily bread, hey hey.

 

Start posting under your real name or shut the fuck up. Does Druff have your credit score yet? Fuck no because you're a liar. Have you made arrangments to be on PFA radio? Fuck no because you're a fucking liar. Fuck off, idiot.