Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

I assumed that nick was longtime member NicksGamingStuff...another good quality member who rarely posts now. Great, entertaining writer who probably got sick of the influx of poor posters who seem to replace the good ones who have been driven away.

Yes, Nick is gay...figured I'd throw that in before the usual people start asking. Nick also never had a bad word to say about anyone.

 

Thanks for the advice, 1BB.

 

Thank you for continuing to misrepresent me on this forum.

 

I didn't bring up the gay speculation, someone else did. I even defended Mike about 6 times in saying I didn't think it was true. What I did do was looked at and discussed some of the wording in his review that started this speculation (by nate). A review that had his 'byline'. And even then I expressed my opinion that Mike just took someone else's review and posted it with his byline. If anything in this situation, I have been defending him more than I would like to.

I don't think I haven't gotten in the gutter, AxelWolf, I really don't. I have tried to make my points, make my case, without all the cussing and brutal name-calling that some of the others have engaged in for a year. Sure I have taken some little digs like "Weasel", but that is based on the dishonesty Mike has demonstrated in dealing with me throughout this ordeal.

You say something like, "the only reason I ever posted on this site is because of you", as if I am supposed to be honored by that. Truth be told, each of your visits here has been to voice criticism of me and my handling of this situation....and that's your right, but don't say it like you are my friend being supportive by coming here.

Several of you guys, like you and RS, were supportive of me behind the scenes I guess, like at the WoV meet-up dinner and I appreciate that. But for the most part you have been quiet and not very supportive in public, when you knew the facts of this situation.....maybe not all the private communications, but you knew that Qfit came to WoV after nearly a 6 year absence for the sole purpose of making it so I couldn't voice my negative opinion of him and his site. He has proved that was his sole purpose by climbing back into his hole and not contributing much since.

So here's the way I see it. I haven't gotten much support from you AP guys that I expected more from...at least not public support. Ron C and a few other members of WoV including recently bluechow have periodically kept the topic alive (you even stated that the topic has died in your quote below....and that is exactly what Mike wants). But the support I have gotten from my AP comrades has been very disappointing to me.

So, Qfit has accomplished exactly what he set out to, and Mike having helped him and knowing that wasn't the right thing to do, has answered to no one. Member's question Mike's actions, I know a couple mods questioned Mike's actions and you tell me some of you guys, who he considers friends brought it up at the WoV dinner and you know what his reaction has been? Absolutely nothing! Crickets! People in this situation having done something unpopular and that they know was wrong always just try to ride it out and eventually the situation goes away. That has been Mike's public strategy. And comments like you made last month about me, "out of sight, out of mind", just aid him in waiting it out and hoping it all goes away.

So yeah, I have come here and gotten a little more aggressive in trying to shame him. He has taken something from me, that I enjoyed, for no real reason and I want him to know that I am angry about that. And he has been dishonest with me, every step of the way, in private communications, saying things that he would never admit in public, like “I know this whole thing was handled rather poorly but reversing myself is only going to cause Norm to come after me instead of you”.

I too don't take violating the privacy of PM's lightly. But when someone's private communications are complete lies at every turn, to what they say publicly, I have no choice but to expose that untruthfulness and dishonesty in the handling of the situation.

So you guys, my AP comrades can turn your back on me. That is your right. But don't come here acting as if you are my friends. Your support of me and what you know was unjustified banning of me has been very weak. And that hurts me as much maybe even more than Mikes actions.

 

When KJ was banned, I asked to be nuked. Haven't visited WoV since that day.

I enjoyed 1BB, LonesomeGambler, KJ, and a few others. All gone.

Of course, Norm is still there, I assume.

 

Welcome HowMany! I never got the opportunity to tell you how much I appreciated all your support. I regret that you left the site on my behalf, but I understand and appreciate your frustration.

I mentioned the circumstances of your exit just the other day because it was similar to a situation that occurred recently at WoV, with Babs unnecessarily banning someone who made a comment half asking for a ban. In my opinion when people saying things like that, as you did in the heat of the moment, moderators/administrators should not jump on it and do so.

In your case you said something like " IBB gone, KJ gone, Qfit still here. I am outta here. Go ahead and ban me". And hot tempered Mike did so immediately. That is a weak and poor reaction by a moderator. Why get rid of a positive contributing member just because you can. That is exactly the wrong approach. A good moderator/administrator would try to diffuse the situation, let things calm down and attempt to keep a good member. Of course good moderator/administrator and Mike Shackleford are major contradictions.

Anyway, hope all is well with you and welcome to this site.

 

AXHOLEWOLF

you have always been as socially backward as the manboy and his followers. As well you do have exhibited a contined inability to draw logical and rational conclusions from simple facts. I pray that your social awareness improves before you die.

First of all....if you have ever been in a casino, think about the women you see at the tables, and at the machines. Do you think these people look at a picture of the manboy surrounded by scantly clad women and say...."this site is for me....i really identify with those girls" Why would they identify with them....the only thing they uniquely have in common with them is the existence of a vagina. Big deal.
You think they dont see the manboy using the women as objects/props.? You think the women at the tables and machines think of themselves as "props"...and hence they want to contribute to that site? Really? How has that worked out over the last 10 years. You think the objectification of women is grand?
I think you do because here is a post you contributed to that nobody felt was insulting to women as a group

http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...al-part-of-a-woman-are-you-most-attracted-to/

discussing women parts is also objectifying women down to body parts. You think that attracts women to the site? You actually think a woman seeing a picture of the wiz standing with women as props....obviously strangers to the man......used as scenery......and then sees the poll and the ensuing contents of the thread.......and they would want to join the festivities? What self respecting woman would do that. What self respecting woman would feel comfortable in that culture.

And how about how women are talked about for valentines day,,,,(talks about his(wiz) wife as a female)

http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/8317-valentines-day/4/
>>>I managed to survive the day outside of the dog house. It seems after 17 years of marriage my wife has such low expectations for Valentine's Day that she has conceded that is one battle that just isn't going to go her way.>>>

among other posts berating women for expecting a present on valentines day......this one would make any woman looking to join totally pleased to see the owner of the site(at the time) claim victory over his wife. Yes add that to being respectful to women.
A wife of 17 years would like a valentines card and gift, he knows that, but he is going to take a stand. Good for him. He got her to "concede". Very nice. He is a real man.Maybe she also expects a birthday present, christmas pesent as well....or she could be made to "concede".

So add it all up.....and there seems to be a distaste for women....a disrespect. They are balls and chains, and props for pictures.....just the climate a good businessman would want for his workplace.

I didnt even know any of those threads existed till freddy brought it to my attention here. He seems to have the history of activity of that site well memorized.

Notice for fear of being punished by the wiz and his henchmen who participate in this, no one seems to think this climate is sexist and demeaning on wov.
yet Axholewolf thinks there is a climate trying to attract women.

haaa haaa haaaa

 

Looks like Nate came to his senses, and left the building.

All this talk about women, but no women on the forums. You have to give women more credit. Women might take over the world after the men finish each other off, or drive each other "nuts".

At any rate, do you guys get any sleep, let alone gamble (and lose) all day?

 

Since you offered...yes I would like to see the screen shots of your conversation with her...and don't use that blurry photo that you pulled up...it means nothing. Both sites are waiting for your excuses and your 6 posts saying freddy sucks. The usual when you back yourself into a corner.

When you finish that tell everyone about the 6 figures you kept in safes at the World Trade Center when you were a teenager...and how you lost it when the buildings came down. Everyone is waiting and everyone loves a good yarn. Can you get one person over there to vouch for you, to give you the validation that you so crave?

On a serious note, there is help available for your compulsive lying, various personality disorders and anger issues.

 

I don't know Norm, but he could be no worse, no more boring, no more full of him/herself.

Goddamn, what a bunch of crap on crap. Oh, to be able to spot a wizTard the first time around, and get the fuck out.

 

That site is a joke, really. Go to the main site and input yourself. lol.

 

I don't see where he said he isn't writing the reviews. Some people on wov have been saying this and that made me go back and look too.
Again, I don't care what he is. Or you.

 

Why are you busy defending the wiz if the wiz being gay has nothing to do with his job or ownership. It doesn't matter unless being gay influences your decision making. Did it?

Then maybe that new company should ban any threads that are off topic. It's supposed to be a gambling site, so would it hurt to not have any off topic threads? Seriously. It's a private business, and if they want to keep topics to gambling and close related items, does anyone really need off topic bullshit? I bet if both these sites right now wiped out off topic threads they would survive.

 

I disappeared because I had the audacity to not answer you in 15 minutes after you posted? Shit, you are such a puffed up egotist.
Again, it's you, taking the floor and forcing you way into the conversation. Do you HAVE to be in every thread for christ sake.

 

I mostly thought the reason for the questioning is that many people just try to peddle useless 'systems' and forums aren't compensated for these hucksters to advertise their systems as if they are just regular people being nice to readers. That reason alone probably would put wov or this site on their necks. I also noticed that people on these sites share their stuff in PRIVATE if they choose to do so. I don't think people trying to sell shit is appropriate in most of these forums themselves. Doesn't all these gambling sites have sections just for that?

 

What fun would that be?
And this hot woman was the second post of the thread I started about KJ. Well, at least the picture is a woman, I think.
http://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/is-it-me-or-is-kewlj-trying-to-get-on-every-thread.5367/

 

But you repeatedly call him a weasel. If you did it once or twice....ok, whatever. If you do it over and over again, then you're turning into LP9, freddy, and LarryS....and I'd think you wouldn't want to turn into one of them.

Maybe AxelWolf, like me, is sad to see you've gone this route. When you were dealing with Norm, AFAIK, you wouldn't go out of your way to bash Norm. Instead, when someone would write something about Norm or his software, you'd voice your opinion. Under your own admission, it's not that way with Mike....now you're set out on going around bashing him, telling the world how bad of a person he is. At least with Norm, it wasn't that way.

What the hell do you think AxelWolf, many members on WOV, and I were doing when Norm was there posting? What do you think we were saying on the forum after you'd been suspended/banned? We're not going to keep bringing it up, especially since you are now in the wrong, with your "fuck off" PM to Mike. Now I'm starting to wonder what else went behind the scenes between you and Norm that you may have conveniently excluded when writing about the behind-the-scenes messages between you and Norm.

Are you kidding me? We absolutely were supporting you, both publicly and privately. But we're not going to keep supporting you after you gave Mike your "fuck off" PM.

And you fell into Qfit's trap and let him do what he wanted. Instead of taking the high road, ignoring him on the forum, talking to Mike privately via PM, letting the other WOV members argue with Norm, you did it. I think you even said you knew you would get suspended (due to the truce). Whether or not you agreed with the truce, you knew responding to Norm would you get suspended, but you did it anyway. You let it happen.

Per the bolded: Then don't expect people to support you. I'm certainly not going to. That's all this damn forum is -- people trying to shame others. I don't agree with Alan Mendelson or Rob Singer (I think they're both idiots). I'm not going to go around, continuously posting how idiotic i think they both are. I'm not going to make post after post about them. If the subject has come up, then yeah, I'll post my two cents....not page after page after page. That's what LP9, LarryS, freddy, and looks like now KewlJ do.

I can't speak for AxelWolf (although I think he'd agree) -- I don't support your actions here....and it hurts me to see you've gone from being a prominent member whom I enjoyed reading his posts....and turned into someone like LarryS, freddy, and LP9. I feel like you've turned your back on us.

 

I read alot of I, I I .......NEWSFLASH!!!!! the world does not revolve around your sensibilities. You are not the arbiter of what is "enough" or "too much". If you dont like something...there is many other things for you to do in your life.

One persons "enough" is another persons "just getting started".

When someone fucks someone else they count on them being people like you. However sometimes they run into people like me. Its a good rule to know your enemy BEFORE you make your enemy.

 

delusions of grandeur? What is this "we". are you the leader of some cult?

 

Is it better he turn into me, or into you....a pompous self centered wannabe know-it-all who thinks the world revolves around him and his sensibilities. An oaf that may not use the word "weasel" but behaves as one instead. Someone who holds himself up as a prize of righteousness and good while at the same time being condescending and short sighted with poor reasoning skills.

Oh yes if the world would be more like you....we would still be under British rule and we would all own slaves....because people like you like to not rock the boat. People like you want others to voice an opposing opinion and then just slink away....BECAUSE THATS WHAT YOU YOU YOU WOULD DO.
And after all..the world revolves around YOU