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yeah, I think you are right.....not a racist....we should not go by his words....but rather by what we think his words mean.

And people have been nuked for alot less than "black bastards". But no one had the guts till people started commenting on it. In fact people behind the scenes have bragged that past posts were deleted by them to help him NOT be nuked. Thereby supporting racist thought.

Remember alcohol is a depressant ..it depresses the part of the brain that causes restraint.It releases restraint and allows your thoughts to come out without you being able to edit them. It doesnt create hate...it just brings it out to the forefront.

Do you think Mel Gibson, really holds jews in high esteem when he is sober? Chances are...no.

All you can do is view what is in front of you and make an informed decision without making up excuses or assuming some back story that may not exist.

The one thing about the show 'All in the Familty" is that it did present how a racist thinks and what a racist says. But because it was a sitcom and had to keep things "light"....it made him into a loveable character, and rarely rarely showed the hurt and anguish that racists cause others.
People do the same thing with MC. He is funny, he is goofy, he is smart,, he is knowledgeable on slots, he is an amusing drunk.
Cant 2 things be equally true?Isnt it possible for someone to be a drunk, and also a racist???

This is not off topic from wov since this did happen on wov and this is a great example on people are punished for minor infractions, and how repeated major infractions are protected behind the scenes(with deletions by mod) and when one of the hateful expressions got through the gates....there had to be a huddle. Amazing.

Since when does the persons intent have anything to do with nuking. Oh he is so well meaning therefore we wont nuke him. Someone supposedly doesnt pay off a private bet and gets nuked. But hate speech is borderline. Hate speech needs a review of a persons intent or state of mind.

This is a prime example of the acceptance of bigotry. Everyone is viewed as the harmless funny comical archie Bunker by those who want to sweep it under the rug. But if you break a "truce", you get nuked.

 

And KJ, if MC sends me some "black dick" to suck.....will you give me some advice if I ask.

 

KJ, I never said I came here to support you. I ALREADY DID THAT, I took your side when it came to Norm. I said it was BS that you were even asked to stand down regarding Norm. Perhaps Mike shouldn't have gotten involved in the first place. But if Norm is his friend and he wanted to help a friend out, I can't fault him for that, fair or not. I hope my friends show a bias towards me and help me as well.

You made a deal and you should have honored it, if you didn't like the deal you should have not made it, or found a way to change it. If Norm was getting away with something you should have figured it out.

I did criticize you on some things as well, I can't/won't support every aspect of your actions and views.... it doesn't have to be an all or nothing. I dont support everything done at WOV.

I said I came here because of you, but again.... I didn't say I came just to support you. I came because I didn't want you to think I was the one trolling, bashing and flaming you with all the gay hate speech. I was shocked that you thought that was me, It was incredibly irresponsible of you to suggest I did that. It seems everyone makes mistakes(death faking seems blatantly dishonest. OK, you had your reasons, but perhaps other people have reasons for the stuff thy do as well) and they want forgiveness, they want people to move past it, but they dont want to forget and forgive others.

 

Blackhole,

Originally I went on the forum because I suspected, actually I was 100% sure an online casino was gaffed(this was many years ago before i actually made an account. WOO/WOV (can't remember now) came up and confirmed what I suspected. Then I found my way back to WOV some years later IIRC it had to do with Bovada. I realized there were people I kinda knew. I then realized it was a good way meet others who were interested in the same stuff I was but also discussed other things. I wanted to build a team (after taking a much needed and necessary break. That was good, I got to spend a lot of time with my father mother sister and nephew)

I didn't say I contributed anything, I am under no obligation to do so, it has no real benefit to me. I don't see any benefit to posting up to much information publicly. Admittedly I share limited stuff and im very selective(you would have to search, I have shared a few). Perhaps I'll share more regarding things that can't affect anyone. I'm always concerned any AP story will help casinos and darksiders get a better understanding how AP's work and think. Casinos still make significant mistakes that are highly exploitable oftentimes repeating the past.

I'm not selling betting systems, writing books, pretending, or telling tall tales. I do call out what I think is BS when I hear or see it. Perhaps that might help someone not to fall for some bunk system or believe some BS that may cost someone money. IE. You can stop wilds on the slot reels, or you can predict when the slot bonus is coming, this machine is due for a RF, or whatever foolish mumbo jumbo people come up with.

Im sure it falls on deaf ears most of the time, but there's been some legitimate questions where people really wanted to know. If enough people chime in it may help discourage them from chasing such nonsense. Perhaps they will seek something legitimate, but who knows.

I think I have helped people via private messages or members I meet on the forums privately and in person. You would have to ask them I have great if not well as I said I'm under no obligation to do so.

You wanted me to answer a bunch of your questions but as I said before I dont think you sincerely want to know, you have already made up your mind, and some of it is NOYB. I don't know what your motivation is or why you care(perhaps sour grapes, or you feel you are smarter than the average bear, but haven't figured out how to beat the casinos. So how the hell can someone like Axel beat a casino?) I just seems like you have an agenda and some animosity towards me and other AP's. Perhaps you're trying to bait people into spilling information because they want to prove something. It seems to work on DarkOZ but he wants to write a book anyways, perhaps he really has nothing to lose.

There is no benefit for me to prove to you or anyone AP is real, again I'm not teaching classes, writing books, selling my methods or anything. It's actually better if people don't believe AP is real. I wish they never started any forums about gambling. VPfree(previously Skips page) really helped hurt people who were already doing it and helped kill plays and encourage darksiders.

Again if you want proof for the right price I'm willing to provide it. Or take Mickey up on his offer. I'm sure he will up the bet for you. If he has a machine that's glitched out at 111% or whatever, you have no chance to win that bet. If not, You may have a chance.

 

AxelWolf,

Fair enough

 

Larry you have never meet me, so you have no clue if I'm socially awkward or not. I and many others would say you are dead wrong. I have had/have a very healthy and above normal social life, I always have and always will. Sorry to disappoint you that some people actually break the mold when it comes to Advantage Players or whatever gave you that silly idea.

If I have ever been in a casino? Even you don't believe there's a possibility I haven't been in a casino. There's been many witnesses to the fact that I have been to many casinos.

All this just goes to show you don't care what the facts are and you're a horrible judge when it comes to people. You just want to try and attempt to insult people.

 

And at what point does one check if a persons drunk on a forum and they are just using the drunk crap as an lie to rant their bigoted shit.
Easy enough to do.

 

I just love it when yankees get to talking about how they are not prejudiced and how racism offends them so much. The best line in the movie Mississippi Burning was when the sourthern FBI agent told the northern FBI agent " we dont mind them getting close as long as they dont get uppity. You dont mind them getting uppity as long as they dont get close."

When all the black folks left the south and moved to the big cities up north....all you yankee white folks fled from the cities to the suburbs. Thats because....you dont mind them getting uppity....as long as they dont get close.

 

The movie The Free State Of Jones came out today. I caught a yahoo news item about the media contacting my cousin Wyatt Moulds, professor of history at Jones County Junior College, Mississippi. Wyatt stated that Newton Knight, the ringleader of the rebellion in Jones County during the Civil War, was a cousin of his. That means I could be related to Newton Knight. I'll have to research it.

There is no doubt the liberal media will make a hero of Newton. After all he fought against racism. He even married a black woman. But I will bet my entire bankroll that Newton didn't live out his long life and die never using the word nigger.

 

Here's a story to provide a little context. I'm originally from Pennsylvania. A few years back, either Newsweek or Time did a story about how Obama won re-election. In the story, the author quoted a Democratic canvasser who went door to door in Washington County asking people how they intended to vote. Washington County is very conservative.

The canvasser knocked on the door of a modest rural home. An older-than-middle aged woman answered the door. The sound of a loud TV came from an unseen room inside. The canvasser asked the woman who she intended to vote for. The woman turned and yelled to her husband, "Who we votin' for?"

The gruff male voice yells back, "We're votin' for the nigger." The woman nodded in agreement.

It was at that point, the canvasser said, that she felt confident Obama would win.

So "is that racism?" becomes a more complex question. I think one of our problems is that we have just one word for "racism." Eskimos have at least 30 words for snow. It would probably be helpful if we had 30 words for different shades of racism or alleged racism.

 

Word for word? Of course not. Heck even JB got a suspension for not much, this is almost nuke worthy depending on the time of the month.

 

I guess my next question is why would anyone subordinate themselves to a site that treats them like children? Fifth-graders have more leeway in a classroom.

 

You think racists didn't vote for a black man? Heck if they thought Republicans were for less govt and it might negatively effect handouts they collect....yes they will protect their wallet.
send a black man to load the groceries in my car or send the black man to Washington to protect my handouts. You can substitute the N word if you like.

We no longer live in a world where you are cut off from the rest of the world and words used are passed down from generation to generation and people don't know any better.

people are well aware of the proper way to address others. And they know what is viewed as racist and offensive. People have seen prominent people and or celebrities lose jobs over words they use.there have been hundreds of tv shows and movies on this topic.thousands of national radio shows.the days of not knowing Any better are behind us.
so whatever is said.....is said with eyes wide open.
Oh yes we can make excuses for this behavior and ask ...how can a man that hires a black man to paint his house be racist when he calls him "nigger"? Or how can a man who voted for Obama be a racist when he calls him the same name?
Really??????
if it personally benefits them, bigots will accept any race or religion to do work for them.

 

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Ax hole wolf
I posted facts as proof of you and others being socially backward when it comes to treatment of women on wov.
You seemed to have left that out by leaving out the quote of the thread.
I responded to your comment that the manboy wiz posing with scantily clad women was designed to attract women to wov.
I pointed out that only a socially backward person would say that...and I presented examples and a case.
A case that you seem to omit.
However if you were ever in a casino and see the women populating the machines and tables...you would be hard pressed to say that they would enjoy seeing other women used as props by the manboy......or they would enjoy your discussion of your favorite female body part....or the condescending way manboy spoke of his wife regarding valentines day...where he got her to concede defeat.
All examples of why there are almost no women on wov...yet in your socially backward view you see these behaviors as well intentioned ways to attract women.
so until my eyes see something in reality that changes my mind..... my "socially backward"
Observation stands.
Your response actually proved my point.
Thank you

 

Redietz, here's another story. In 2010 the economy was in bad shape. A black friend of mine, a line cook, had gone a year without finding a job. Traditionally, line cooks could go anywhere and find a cooking job. My black friend looked at me and said "We need to get that nigger out of the White House."

 

A couple of issues with this response. First, why assume " racists" vote for a black man primarily because it's clearly in their best interests? Is that the primary rationale you auto -assign to "non-racists?" Auto-assigning this rationale to "racists" leads to a circular argument -- that is, they must be acting in their own interests because they are racist.

Second, and why I think we need multiple words rather than the single cry wolf of "racist," what people define as racist behavior is different now from 20 years ago and that is different from 50 years before. So behaviors identified as racist change over time and from place to place.

Third, I have a hard time automatically emphasizing lingo over behavior when trying to figure out reality. The man refers to Obama as a nigger, but wants him in charge of the most powerful country on earth, with humankind's fate in his hands. I'm not certain the use of the n-word trumps the action of voting.

 

Some of the so called "women" over there aren't much better. Guess which "woman" made this post at 2:53AM on 7-12-13. Warning: only those with the strongest stomachs should continue reading.

"But, since I like men, large, strong hands, get me shivery...something in my brain tilts and I'm suddenly imagining what those hands can do".

Was it juiciejennie? Was it not so hot blonde? Was it one of the manboy models? It was not.

Eww! Double eww! It was their very own beached whale. I hope no one has just eaten. The old women who joined a forum full of young guys on the pretext of gambling..

Now who is going to take one for the team and service her? It should be one of the butt kissers. No need for me to mention names. They know who they are and so does everyone else. Maybe the mathletes could develop a formula to find the best *fit* for her. Did I mention Eww?

 

This thread just surpassed 40,000 views. Can't wait for some WOVer to say they're all from 2 or 3 people. Yeah, the basements of freddy's and Larry's parents have been very busy.

 

The site is a P.O.S. There were some good people there but got banned there a while back for getting into it over some worthless rubbish with one or two. BeachBabs or whatever her handle was, is also a real piece of work. One would think the mods are paid $$$ with their conniving and game of chess, they think they are playing.

 

It never ceases to surprise me how many fell for that piece of shit from day-1. What happens when you don't begin to "do your homework".

Truly are no shortcuts in life.