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Baccarat Baccarats Realities!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Oct 24, 2024.

  1. Shadymilkman73

    Shadymilkman73 Member

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    would you mind sharing your shoes?
     
  2. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    I can't do so, cuz I don't record the individual p-b hands outcome for each shoe, hey hey.
     
  3. MDawg

    MDawg Well-Known Member

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    If you flat bet and win, then you must be winning the majority of your hands. But you can't know in advance that some hands are more likely winners than others?

    I bet more on some hands than others. I bet the most on hands where I know what the first card coming out of the deck will be, especially if I also have some knowledge of the composition of that clump of the deck, or at least of what remains in the deck. This will be partly due to memory abilities but also due to something else that obviously I won't get into publicly.
     
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  4. Shadymilkman73

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    -4.45

    These 2's are killing me. I haven't experienced any chop dominate shoes when I play. Either unlucky or playing it wrong.
     
  5. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No, your bet selection analysis exactly mirrors the shoes he posted results for except for one or two commission discrepancies which he might have just rounded. To win you'll need a preponderance of chops and a preponderance of P 3's. As assymbacc noted awhile back that bet B after P3 is NOT a .81 unit advantage as soxfan insists it is and has been on his 8000 shoes. So, , , what's the conundrum?
     
  6. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Well that's another tangent for another thread. Maybe you should start one. As a BJ player I used to always mnitor 1) the true count, 2) the clump, and 3) the last card out for 1st base.

    Cheers
     
  7. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You could easily do a few screen shots.
     

  8. Shadymilkman73

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    P3s are really just to break even. Only single player rich shoes will result in profits. Might even be wise to forgo the P3's trigger.
     
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  9. Shadymilkman73

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    +6.35

    Finally a decent shoe
     
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  10. Shadymilkman73

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    +9.35

    A really good bank shoe here. Probably won't get much better than this.
     
  11. Shadymilkman73

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    +1.45

    Regaining some traction.
     
  12. Shadymilkman73

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    I thought the shoe this morning was good.... unfortunately I just saw this and of course I bet the last decision that went to 2 players....

    +10
     
  13. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Profits are comin strong, now, baby, heyhey!
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  14. Jimske

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    Well Shady looks like you got some good shoes there. My online game 8 deck, 15 second. hand wash hand shuffle still takes about 45 minutes to get through 1 shoe.

    Over 4k real shoes says soxfan selection a loser. I guess there's a serious anomaly at his online joint and that's why he's wimning. I assume it's Partypoker. He doesn't say much about the shuffle. etc. He really doesn't give much information to help punters. Here's one I looked at today on my site. Not too good but it's only one shoe. -10 before commission his way. This game is $5-500.


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  15. Jimske

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    Well Shady looks like you got some good shoes there. My online game 8 deck, 15 second. hand wash hand shuffle still takes about 45 minutes to get through 2 shoes.

    Over 4k real shoes says soxfan selection a loser. I guess there's a serious anomaly at his online joint and that's why he's wimning. I assume it's Partypoker. He doesn't say much about the shuffle. etc. He really doesn't give much information to help punters. Here's one I looked at today on my site. Not too good but it's only one shoe. -10 before commission his way. This game is $5-500.


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  16. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Screenshot_20241113_212859_Mohegan Sun CT.jpg Sorry I had an issue editing. I estimate 30-45 minutes per shoe. How does soxfan get 18 shoes. Here's another. It's going to be difficult to accumulate 200 shoes LOL
    And this site drops out the early columns if thr shoe gets too long. So I'm thinking it's okay to cut out around decision 65. Anyway you don't want to get caught having to bet in yhe middle of a possible double loss. This one does better.
     
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  17. Jimske

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    Screenshot_20241113_221327_Mohegan Sun CT.jpg Last one before I retire for the evening. But I'm thinking I know a couple people in New Jersey who I could pay twenty five dollars an hour to play a few shoes each day. Now with the soxfan holy grail all I need to do is collect about two hundred shoes to make sure it works. I could probably log about 20 shoes a week. After 10 weeks I'd have enough. Counting on a 75 unit draw down. 20k investment should be sufficient to get them going. Of coutse maybe I'd play a few myself - maybe. Or else I'd just be manager!

    Here's another one. Looks like almost 5 units.
     
  18. soxfan

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    Sometimes I wish I had spideysense supers-powers so I could go years and decade without having the losing sessions. Oh well, gotta make due with what I got, hey hey.
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  19. Shadymilkman73

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    after 28 live shoes (Evolution) flat betting Banker 1 unit, here's the verdict:

    Playing OLD single player and OLD 3 consecutive players:

    -19.55 units.

    Playing just OLD single player:

    -10.85 units

    Playing OLD single player and OLD double players:

    -27 units

    Playing OLD Single player and OLD 4 consecutive players:

    -23.10 units

    *Note these are inclusive of commission calculated
     
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  20. asymbacguy

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    No surprise.
    By flat betting Banker in any sequence you wish you are not going anywhere.
    It was widely proven without any shadow of doubt.

    as.
     

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