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in the battle between wov and gf......we have mickey and you don't.....losers

 

Cause Micky got his drunk ass booted - he should have gotten off the liquor and he could have stayed - instead he got fucked cause he couldn't put down the sauce

 

but so what if he drinks....is this 1923????

 

He becomes an asshole when he drinks and can't handle his liquor and made comments .. Also I'm quite sure those plays he posts are from a while ago they could possibly be ongoing but anyone that reads this could easily figure out where they were

 

you miss my point...I've been in the casino business for over 40 years and gambling is basically my life now. These boards which are supposed to be about gambling become who has got the biggest dick stories. Nobody believes half the shit that is written any way. Mickey is not from story world, he is from reality....you guys get all over larry s but I know he is a very astute hamdicapper. So people like mr v and myself just sit back and make observations bec ause any useful gambling info is not forthcoming.

 

The keno play I put up here is current. But's its just in one little joint. There are 1700 of these little bitty 20 machine slot parlors in Montana. The state is 500 miles from east to west and 300 miles from north to south. They don't call this place Big Sky Country for nothing. Good luck in your search for the play.

 

Must suck always worrying from one day to the next if a play will remain good, or did the casino catch on or someone else gave it up opening their mouth or abusing it.

That’s what always puzzled me why AP’s would even find their way to any gaming forum. It’s one thing to read them hoping for someone to give up a play, but to engage with conversation about it just seems to be running additional risks for no reason.

This is one of the main reasons why I believe that most of what’s being said is suspect.

If a person were a professional AP and eventually married and had children, do you teach this talent to your children? Would you hope they become just like dad? Technically they would just have to wait till their 21 to start raking in the bucks. Instead of going to college (wasting all that money) you could be tutoring them at home for free. Why should they work fulltime grinding out life when free money is just sitting there waiting to be picked up? How do those types of what most would consider normal ways of life fit into a family? I have hundreds of questions about the life an AP really lives?

 

That's good. The more people that believe it's "suspect", the better for us.

 

Yea I know, I've heard that comeback line a million times already. Why not find a new one?

How about answering some of the family experiences while living the life of AP'ing?

 

Do you work for the FBI, IRS, etc? If not, that's none of your business. I'll say this, I'm single, not looking and no dependants.

 

Anyone making a living gambling is clearly, as Blackhole implies ad nauseum, an anti-social perverse non-contributing member of society who abandons all family emphases in search of vainglorious conquests. You know, like most businessmen, soldiers, priests, Cub Scout leaders, and politicians.

 

For the smug Aps like AXEL and others from wov or outside wov....especially the ones who gloat how they love their life compared to people who hate their 9-5 jobs.
The people who you claim hate their 9-5 jobs, ofter do that as a sacrifice for their family. By the end of their working life, that job alows them to accumulate 401ks often augmented by "matching" by employer, allows them steady income that sends their kids to school and allows planned vacations throughout life. Thr job allows a mortgage to a nice home, which after its payed off is a nice largechunck of monet for retirement....as a smaller home can be sought as the larger home is sold. So assuming all 9-5ers hate their job.....there is a payoff in the end. They are usually helping society as theyperform their job, and pay full taxes on money earned.

Now do full time gamblers or full time Aps do anything for society? After a life of working their own schedule, and bragging how much they love their job compared to the working stiffs......do they have a 401k to live off of? A nice home who's mortgage is just about paid off to live off of?

When an AP is 70 and not in good physical shape to continue pushing buttons on machines....are they self sufficient? ..or are they living on public money. Have they paid into social security where they are getting a nice check each month...or are they getting the minimum....relying on society to help them them get by

I know what a person who works for 35 years as a 9-5er looks like financially. I live that life.

WHat does an AP at age 70 for example look like financially. Are they financially set to go off on a beach and drink pina coladas for the rest of their life? Or are they tied to [pushing buttons. Are they able to support a family in a good way throughout the lifetime.

Or are they more likely like Barry Greenstein...from his book "Ace on the river"

 

Once again the typical answer above. Instead of sharing the experience of an AP with others on a forum specifically designed for conversation about gambling, the same [removed, pay to advertise] same [removed, pay to advertise], mind your own business. Can't discuss plays, can't discuss life. So what is it you'll talk about on a gambling forum?

 

Find another example, Larry. Barry Greenstein has given millions to charity. His occupation had about as much to do with his ignoring his children as anyone with any other occupation that ignored their children.

 

Larry, you know damn well what Axel was saying (and I explained it too) regarding 9-5'ers hating their job. Looks like everything's the same -- Larry is posting here and still twisting people's words around. Damn shame.

 

Not all AP's are full time professional gamblers. But if you are a full time professional gambler then you are a business owner just like a drywall contractor, restaurant owner, lawyer, shopkeeper, etc.

1. You may deduct business related expenses.

2. You may deduct health insurance premiums.

3. You are eligible for Social Security and Medicare benefits. Self-employment taxes are an expense now....but can be considered a future asset as a way to finance part of your retirement.

4. You are eligible to set up a retirement plan to shelter income. You can choose a SEP, IRA or a solo 401(k). For the 401(k) you may shelter up to $52,000 per year, $57,500 per year if you are 50 or older.

Professional gambling business's are just like drywall contracting business's, restaurant business's, shopkeeping business's etc. Some people are just better at it than others. Some people don't make it. Some people are able to survive. Others excell at it. Just like any other business.

 

Mickey....All the businesses you mentioned are contributors to society. As are the 9 to 5 ers that work for those businesses. And the owners are hard workers as well.

Yes full time gamblers can indeed set up retirement....pay for health insurance....buy homes....and can give money to charity like 9 to 5 ers can.
But do they.....or do they end up in old age glomming. off of society after spending a life gloating how they did it their way and didn't have to stoop to being a 9 to 5 er.
Most of the 9 to 5 ers that axel referred to pay all the taxes that they have to pay based on their check stub. Their income is an open book....and our roads and schools are paid with their fair share of taxes
So they both perform a job that provides a service to society while at the same time paying their taxes to support society. The business owner serves society with the business and at the same time serves society by providing jobs Heath care and retirement plans .
And APS do what for society??? Do they do their jobs that provide no value to society ...pay the taxes they choose to pay...and look to society to prop them up in their old age??
Remember a crackwhore. face down in a crack den can call themselves a professional gambler or an Ap.
so how do you separate the crack whore. and her type of professional gambler from axel or mc.
are there special levels of Ap or professional gambler?? Special executive membership ?

Overall I can say the nursing profession is a benefit to society.
can I say the same about professional gamblers?
Since professional gamblers cannot be thrown out of their profession if they are convicted murderers child molesters and rapists......When you compare aps and other professional. gamblers to other professions....what percent is doing everything Mickey states.....pays their fair taxes.
.sets up retirement accounts...buys Heath insurance...A masses wealth so they don't have to be a burden to society...builds up enough social security to help them live.




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Larry, Steve Wynn and I have some things in common. But do you know the difference between Steve Wynn and me?


1. Wynn runs a bigger operation than I do.
2. Wynn runs a much bigger total wager than I do.
3. Wynn has more expenses than I do.
4. Wynn makes much more profit than I do
5. Wynn is even gambling when he is sleeping, I'm not.

Larry, Steve Wynn is an AP too!!!!!! And whoever owns that casino you blow your money in is AP'ing your ass, Larry!!!!

So if you want to bitch someone out for not contributing to society then bitch all the casino owners out!!!!! Oh, yeah, that's right. You wouldn't have anywhere to go on the weekends if they closed the casinos down.

 

Casino owners do provide tens of thousands of jobs to a wide variety of hotel and casino workers....and no casino owner would be without health insurance or a retirement nestegg.they will never be a burden to society when they are retired

 

Casino employee's even if they are just a maid or a hotel desk clerk are contributing to the casinos strip mining the economy of the world.