Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

I know people can beat sports. But handicap horses? I say BULLSHIT that anyone on this forum can successfully handicap horses I'm willing to bet that and give odds. I don't even need to know your picks Ill let an independent person secretly/privately review the picks and determine the winner. Just because someone makes and wins a few years with limited picks is meaningless. I'm up on college football over the years winning about 14 out of 20 bets. I have never once spent any time watching(other than the games I bet for fun) reading about or studying collage football. I have zero knowledge about college sports.... it's meaningless

Some 8 year old kid was featured on the las vegas news each week giving out his NFL picks because he had some amazing winning record for a few seasons or something like that.... It's meaningless

I'm not saying there's not any situations in horse betting where you can't gain an advantage, but not anyone here that's handicapping. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is that over x amount of races that person won't be ahead.

One year Fiesta had a promotion where they were doubling payouts on certain combinations(can't remember exactly what it was called now, I just bet it as much as I could and boxed the right combinations ) you could just box a bunch of combinations and practically lock up money with a significant advantage. It obviously didn't last too long I can't remember how many day(s) or week(s) it went. Of course Larry thinks I just sit and push buttons all day... Funny I was legitimately and mathematical APing horses, his supposed thing.

How much action do you have in sporting bets each year How many football or sports contests have you won larry? Poker tournaments? BJ tournaments? I may have won a few. but you think I just push buttons.

You shouldn't assume shit you know nothing about.

 

no I understand now that you job isnt as meaningless as just pushing buttons....its has a great significance to the well being of society.........much more meaningful than just pushing buttons.

I can only dream of one day contributing to society with as meaningful a contribution as you through my 9-5 punch clock job.

Forgive me for not recognizing the weightier aspects of your "job".

nope...not just punching buttons......this week it could be the performance of open heart surgery, next week it might be the design of an atrium in downtown seatle......anf the week after might be pushing buttons.....it varies....I know.

 

I rarely check my Email unless I'm expecting something important like from a Layer or a Paypal bill. I have 6k (unread I believe ) emails in my hotmail/outlook account And I just deleted 1k yesterday, probably all casino spam (I don't even know how you would know my proper email, I have 20+) with texting and other communication apps and my PM's(I can't even keep up with PM's) I just use text mostly, so I'm sorry I didn't respond. What was the last 5 letters or numbers you sent the email to?

"fuck you Axel'= great name for a Book, perhaps a great first sentence.

PS you might like my very first AOL account name, it's something like [email protected]

 

You can keep going back to that same misconstrued twisted empty well all you want. That's all you seem to do is regurgitate the same vomit mix it up then add some piss, spit, shit and bile and toss it back on here, even though I have explained and commented on your cherry picked comments of mine. You're a crappie broken record at best. It's clear to anyone what you're doing.

I'll state it again, most people in the world are unhappy with their jobs(FACT). I never said there's anything wrong with a 9 to 5 job, nor did I criticize, look down on or demean other jobs. I feel very fortunate. I love what I do and I don't feel bad about it just because it doesn't fit a conventional societal contribution ideas that you have. If you took a survey (not on a bias gambling forum) many people would consider gambling for a living a dream job. With gambling probably being america's #1 favorite entertainment pastime. (People spend more money on gambling than many other forms of entertainment combined) It would be hard to not find a significant large amount of people who wouldn't want to turn their gambling hobby and entertainment into their job.

You talk about saving lives as your supposed JOB(no one can confirm you're not really a candy striper, basement dweller troll or a 400 pound hospital patient), well I have instinctively save a well respected and well loved ladies life from choking, while others just stared at her. I don't even know how I knew she was choking because she was silent and calm as she walked up to my table while I was sitting with friends eating. I just got this feeling and thought it odd she would come up to us(no hand to her throat), it was obvious how she was dressed and her Jewelry so she wasn't there to ask for money. I asked her if she was choking and she nodded. I jumped up spun her around and gave her a hymek maneuver. I don't even know how I learned that. And it wasn't my JOB, I didn't get paid for it. I did it because I wanted and needed to. Her family, friends and members of her church called me for months thanking me.


Not to long ago sometime during winter time, while traveling out of state we were on our way to the airport. I had just purchase some new clothing, slacks, a nice jacket and new shoes. We didn't actually see it happen, but it was obvious a woman's truck just went off the road and flipped onto its side as it flew and slid down into the middle of the flooded swampy highway center part. Cars and people stopped and slowed down. People were outside and they were just gathering and staring, even a state patrol car was nearby(I have no clue what he was doing, perhaps he was making sure people didn't get hit by oncoming traffic) I told my Girlfriend to stop the car then I jumped out and ran down to the gully though the water, mud and whatever else. I climbed up the side of the truck reached in and helped the dazed woman out, you could see she was desperately trying to climb out of the top truck window . Eventually another guy came and helped bring her closer to dryer land and safety.

I Made sure she was not to badly hurt, at least not visibly (she had a small cut and bump on her head, but she knew the date, where she was at, her name and kinda what happened but seemed somewhat disoriented ans shaken up), I had someone get a blanket for her and call 911 just encase no one actually did already. I asked if she needed to call a family member and I stayed and talked to her until the ambulance was coming and then let someone else take over. Me, Soaked, slightly scraped up, and caked in mud, we headed to a convince store (luckily I had my suitcase in the car) got cleaned up continued on and luckily we made our flight. I actually forgot all about it until I believe my GF brought it up at dinner with friends some time later.

I have helped many people in my life and contributed to society, because I wanted to not because it is or was my job and made money doing it(very few people would want be doctors if there's wasn't good money and prestige in it, or pushed by their families). I have had real jobs that by your definition contribute to society, I just retired from doing a conventional job early. I myself have given people jobs, helped them earn much needed money. I have donated time, food and money(not as much lately but I'll be donating to an animal sanctuary when I return to vegas and even ask to donate time). I tip casino personal very well because of AP. I spend more than the average person on traveling costs because of AP. I have helped teach people how to make money for themselves and their family thus allowing them to get on their feet and continue doing what the previously loved doing.

Years ago I took almost a year off moved and my dad with his wife who has MS, as he had just surgeries himself.
I send my brother who's in a different country trying to survive and start a business and mother in a different state money frequently. I could go on and on about contributing to society. My point is it doesn't just matter what you do for a living, it also matters what you do when you're not getting paid to do it.

I'll say it again as I have before my GF, friends and my family including my parents are proud of me and what I do. That's what matters. I hope that anyone thinking about or who chooses a path in advantage play will be proud of what they do, be happy and find other ways to contribute to society and be a good person. You'll find that most successful advantage players(NOT ALL as there's scummy people in all professions) are very honorable, trustworthy and good people to especially others. Obviously there's an all fair in gaming the casinos and grey areas are fair game.

 

Larry, I watch a lot of news. I've seen postal workers that were mass murderers. I've seen mayors that were crack addicts. I've seen priests that were child molestors. But for the life of me I just can't seem to recall the news media ever referring to a mass murder, crack addict or child molestor as a "gambling AP."

 

Has anyone noted this irony?

"APs," whatever they are as an alleged category, are being criticized for an air of superiority by someone who claims, in these posts, to be a "good citizen" with "common sense" who "contributes to society." But somehow proclaiming oneself to be a "good citizen" with "common sense" who "contributes to society" isn't evidence of any kind of "air of superiority." Why is that?

See, the fascinating thing about being a "good citizen" with "common sense" who "contributes to society" is that those aren't things one can really self proclaim. Those are labels that have no gravitas unless OTHER PEOPLE APPLY THEM TO YOU. You can't proclaim them like merit badges; you have to let others decide if you've earned them.

So unless a poster drops anonymity and trots out some friends and acquaintances to go to bat for his/her good citizenship, common sense, and societal contributions, it's all just an exercise in narcissism. Looking down one's nose at others based on personal, subjective values is always a questionable exercise, but doing it in anonymity is really pointless.

 

oh you misunderstood me...I was talking about saving lives as part of my miserable 9-5 job.The one that I like everyone else hates
If you have a button pushing life saving story.....I would love to hear it.
you know one where you pushed a button on a machine and it resuscitated a man whose heart stopped. That happens alot I bet.

 

how unusual that a person who says he can only comment on what he has a degree in,....has a comment like above.
He is a guy that says he cant judge what words are racist because he doesnt have a degree in word etiology. He cannot comment on right and wrong on areas outside his specific specialty. And now this.

Amusing how things change.

Amusing how opinions flow

 

No, I just don't think the word, gambler, fits with the word, professional. I don't consider what I do to be gambling. My risk of ruin is so infantessimaly small that it doesn't really exist. I work significant edges and always well within the means of my bankroll, so everything I do is safe from risk of ruin.

To me the real gamblers are all the ploppies that give up all that edge to the casinos in the hopes of getting lucky. They assume massive risk of ruin. I'm to chickenshit to do anything like that. And, of course, they are not professionals.

So if you ask me who the real gambler is, the ploppie or me, I say its the ploppie.

 

There is no possibility of having a reasonable conversation with a person who makes such a comment as part of their argument. I just feel incredibly bad for you LarryS. I can't imagine how, but I really hope at some point, some how, you find happiness in life.

 

I have to call you on this one. This goes with what Mickey said previously. You paraphrase what other people post, reconfigure it to your liking, then take shots at it. You're rewriting what others say, claiming it's what they said, then criticizing it. That doesn't take much skill. Frankly, if you're rewriting other people's posts and presenting it as what they said, and the people are real (like me), it's illegal.

Use the actual quoted posts, if you will, and then try to have your audience, without your creative reinterpretation, arrive at your conclusions/translations.

I'm not going to engage you in your ongoing search to play anonymous superhero to a collection of perceived villains and unreasonable blokes. You've pretty much overwhelmed this site (even more than KJ), and turned it into your personal values blog. Have fun with it.

 

why is there something inaccurate about the comment you quoted? Would you want a child of yours stranded don a desert island with a cross section of self proclaimed full time gamblers....or a cross section of full time physicians. or teachers. or nurses, or pharmacists in good standing..

not saying all in the fraternity of full time gamblers are crack addict child molesters...just saying that those type folks are not excluded from the "profession". There is no qualifying credentials. There are no societal standards to meet. There is no proof of competency required.

They are as "professional" as anyone else who declares they are "professional" just based on the fact they may make money....professional 15 year old baby sitter, professional 17 year old mcdonalds cashier, professional cotton candy seller at the fair.

 

Why? Does he deserve happiness? I guess if you believe everyone does, you have to wish for him to find it.

I stopped posting here for exactly this type of stuff. I see it as only helping the ego of these guys and somehow makes them think they matter and have valid points. It also helps the owners of this site who I see as morally questionable at best.

Sadly Mick and you can't post at WoV, whose polices I don't always agree with but has far better contributiors than this place.

Unlike you, I have no fond wishes for Larry or Freddy as I know many like them and their lives are miserable and filled with regrets. Sometimes they even admit it.

Take Care!

 

wow I dont get a "fond wish"????? What a shame.

If wishes were fishes..there would be no world hunger.

 

Yeah, but you now have Qfit, right? I assume he has been a regular, contributing member over the last 6 months. Oh yeah...that was never his intent.

 

Professional gambler is just a name or title for someone who's an AP / makes a living gambling. You're a nurse, not a "professional nurse". No one says they're a professional nurse or a professional lawyer.

There are professional football players, professional skateboarders, professional surfers, etc. If someone says they are a surfer, it means they just surf recreationally. If they're a professional surfer, that's their job & make money doing it. If someone says they're just a gambler, they gamble recreationally. If they're a professional gambler, that's their job & they make money doing it.


Funny, you talk shit about "APs looking down on 9-5'ers"......but you're the one looking down and talking shit on APs. Lol

 

There are professional football players,

yes and in order to be a professional football player you have to exhibit a certain standard of excellence...and if you dont adhere to a standard on and off the field.....you are booted out. Drug testing disallows a crack addict from being allowed in the profession. There is an over-seeing authority that administers conduct rulings. No such body of authority present for full time gamblers or "professional gamblers". A newly convicted child molester in prison cannot be denied being a "professional gambler". He cangamble in the prison yard for cigarettes ad proudly call himself a professional gambler.

A registered nurse, an accredited physician in california, a teacher with a teaching credential.....are are professionals that dont need the moniker attached. Although there would be nothing wrong to use the term "professional registered nurse"...although its redundant ...but still nothing wrong with it.

 

Professional football players, or any athlete, only get paid because the general public is stupid enough to pay for it. These people, athletes, aren't professional anything. If they were, they'd all be equal with the exact same skill which they are not.

 

really? are all surgeons of equal skill, all teachers all lawyers?

 

So what's your point? That you're "better than us"?