Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

The wizard forum is what it is and what it always will be, hey hey.

 

Ah, but is it "dying?"

THAT is the question.

 

here is a fellow that has seen the light after months and a hundred or so posts about manboy.......that enough is enough for him and everyone else.
He is the judge and jury of when enough is enough....BUT....he still used this opportunity to bash manboy/wov and let people know there is no credibility . talking out of 2 sides of his ass.

notice that freddy keeps things fresh with new comments about new situations and new mistreatments of our neighbors in the community of message boards. He has never spend 3 months or more harping on his personal mistreatment, nor any other single persons mistreatment. There is enough new grist for the mill generated weekly. Its not the same shit about me me me that goes on for months.

KJ was never one to care about mistreatment of fellow neighbors at wov when he was in good standing. As long as no one fucked with him,,,all was well with the world. But for others like myself....and freddy....the mistreatment of others is nothing to be ignored.

Over 90 percent of my comments regarding wov mistreatments were about people other than myself. And its closer to 100 percent for freddy.

So I can see you finally getting tired about whining about yourself over and over. I personally though that point would have come in the first 2-3 weeks you arrived.

But NOW you think enough is enough for you. Fine. Bye bye. We can get along fine on this thread without hearing about your individual case again.

But unlike you....people like freddy and myself like to comment on the ever evolving new situations that present themselves. And really who the fuck are YOU to say enough is enough on commenting on new situations.

Its not like we are rehashing about how 1BB was mistreated over and over or B9, or a multitude of others from months and years ago.
Nope..we are commenting on current affairs.

So good for you...you finally have a feeling that you have overstayed your welcome when it comes to complaining about your situation. You are quite late to that realization destination.

But I can tell you are not interested in other people and their mistreatment....and if you cant talk about yourself, and shine the light on yourself...then...according to you....everyone should call it a day.

Because if its getting tired to talk about and defend KJ after months and months of doing so.....then no one else deserves to be defended.

Now that KJ feels HIS story has been beaten to death.....the acknowledgement of other peoples more current stories should cease.

not a chance in hell

 

there is a saying...He that does not do...does not say

here we go again......

we went from enough is enough... to going through the specifics again.

funny man

 

KJ has made me so stressed from that insane post that it makes me want to leave my home now, take a short drive, pick up a pack of fags....and smoke them all. Yes all in one night.

 

Larry, I don't know what to tell you. If this is what your life is now, obsessing over a site that doesn't want you, obsessing over every word said, and every action by mods and management that don't meet with your approval....then have at it. I honestly feel bad for you.

Wishing you a happy new year Larry. I sincerely hope you find happiness in life, because all I see is a very unhappy person full of resentment.

 

I read that two and a half packs of fags were smoked in Chicago last weekend.

Well, not "fags," exactly, but close enough.

 

No, who the fu ck are you, Larry the homophobe, to tell anybody anything. Just a whining little bitch is all you are. You think you run this place, asshole. But all you are running is your shit filled mouth. Fuck off.

 

I don't see that at all. I can't speak for Larry but being argumentative, contentious, bellicose, combative, pugnacious etc makes me very happy. If I had to venture a guess, I would say that Larry feels the same. No resentment here...only unbridled joy at being able to set the record straight whenever the need arises.

Stay tuned for my next obsessive post about the treatment of ZenKinG under the noses of two mods who did nothing other participate in the hijacking of the thread.

 

ZenKing, a six month WOV member with 100 posts, started a thread asking for advice on blackjack. In the "Something Has To Be Done" thread the aspiring card counter aired his frustration on being "backed off" and sought advice from the more experienced players on the board.

Here's what he got:

Billryan: "I'm pissed about the new Star Wars movie".

Monet0402: "It's been cold in Vegas". "The sky is blue". "The desert is tan and dry". There were 7 more of these insulting, condescending statements.

Zcore13: "Why can't people learn the rules of driving?"

RogerKint or is that Kunt? Every AP should change their own brakes".

Monet0412 again: "I still smell something fishy with this ZenKinG". "I hear fake, fake, fake".

Raquet: "This has to be a funniest thread finalist for 2016".

Monet0412 posts for the third time and drops 8, that's right 8, links to gambling movies. Then he bores everyone to death by quoting lines from the movies.

Two words. No hijacking...WOV Forum Rule 7. Not one admonishment from the mods. And where were the mods? Two were participating in the thread...not only participating but hijacking as well.

Bobbartop: "Where I live they like to shoot guns on NYE".

That brought a tutorial on muzzle velocity from Face (hijack) and another stupid Beached Whale story about Air Traffic Control...this one from 2001. Live in the past much, your Whaleness? Another hijack.

TomG, to his credit, tried to help ZenKinG..tried to give him some thoughts and advice. After all those comments the thread was kind of trashed. And make no mistake...this was not the innocent hijack that we all make. This was a deliberate effort to ridicule another member, to have some "fun" at his expense. His only crime...to trust the board enough to ask his question. I know without a shred of doubt that KewlJ, had he not been banned, would have taken the time to answer all of the guy's questions and maybe even take him under his wing. But they don't want that over there. Grade school is still in session.

Wait until you hear what happened next....

 

Zenking doesnt post like a brain dead, castrated beaten down soul. He posts with life and vitality.

And I WONTstep on freddy's next post

speak in a monotone, dont make eye contact with the mods, dont complain, dont show you have a pulse or any sort of life.....show no passion....no spark......no colorful expression.......be a democrat.....dont hijack threads except when the mods participate and fuel the hijacking.....feel free to discuss your favorite woman's body part, or comment to the author of prostitution and massage parlor "tips", spend a hundred pages placing bets on the body of an obese attention whore......

these are the rules of play to keep in good standing of Face's SMOKING JACKET CROWD..

If you just follow these simple rules.....you can avoid the strick hand of punishment

but then again...if someone just happens to be in a "bad mood" and you just happen to be in the way....you are fucked

I applaud freddy for bringing this to the attention of this thread..its current and on topic.
In doing so he is not viewed as unhappy or obsessed by normal well adjusted people. He is just being a good neighbor. Speaking out about injustice.
He is not crying about himself....he is instead shining the light of truth on the injustice to others.

This is something KJ wants to stop....because enough is enough for everyone...when he personally gets tired.

However if KJ had a shred of concern for others.........the same concern people gave him when he was repeatedly droning on about himself......he would see the value in the post freddy just placed.

Yes there is a personal feel good piece to this as freddy explained. Nothing wrong about personally feeling good in pointing out hypocrisy. And nothing wrong about taking an interest in your neighbors.

 

show one post that shows me to be scared of homosexuals? I rarely even speak about sexual orientation....I have no clue what the fuck your alcohol impaired brain is talking about.

 

ZenKing continues to seek advice from the members that continue to mercilessly ridicule and harass him...all the while behaving properly. Perhaps he thought it was some type of hazing. He never became confrontational and he never insulted anyone.

He could not, however, hide his disdain for casinos that banned blackjack players....calling them "a bunch of scum". An opinion shared by many. Then he called them "fukin twats". Boom! Beached Whale hits him with a 7 day suspension....for a FIRST offense. For profanity. She got in a little joke of how he spelled "fukin" then...boom.

When even one of his antagonists cried foul the Whale then reduced it to 3 days...still 3 too many. It's very clear that she was enjoying the mistreatment and wanted to do her part for "the boys". Again, not one word from the Whale to the hijackers, to those who baited and tried to ridicule. Just another gotcha from a sick mind. So why is WOV dying? Because it is run in a horrid fashion by a horrid little man.

Next, I'll take a look at the forum rule that ZenKing broke. And there's no denying that he broke it. But there is more to the story...much more.

 

But wait freddy....this is the "smoking jacket" crowd that Face speaks about.
The folks that engage you in high class exchange of ideas.

Its amazing that a member in good standing would get a kneejerk 7 day punishment.....just an arbitrary increase in the usual punishment time I guess for increased juice she gets....that supreme rush of authority being inflicted.

the fragile sensibilities of the readers had to be protected.....you know the smoking jacket crowd cant see the word "fukin".......that is offensive.
But its ok to be schooled on "happy endings" in mikes place....

Its Ok to totally hijack a thread....and basically shit on the original poster.....without repercussions.....yet if you are on the wrong side of an issue....and lets say decided to talk about how you DISLIKED CLINTON......in the middle of the gambling on the body of slut blonde thread........you would be punished.

 

The ZenKing situation at WoV is one of the things I am most disappointed about in being banned from WoV and basically banned from most of the AP community. My top priority in participating in the community has been to share some of my experiences and things I have learned, both successes and failure along the way....just as some members did for me about a decade ago.

ZenKing, who I have known for a couple years from Norm's site, is a perfect example of a younger guy that can benefit from more experienced players sharing what has and hasn't worked for them. Unfortunately being young, he is also a little cocky at times and this can rub those that might want to help and share the wrong way. I was a little bit like that too back in the day. I remember arguing with a couple different experienced players, who were trying to help me (and ultimately did help me a great deal). Sometimes you hear things that you don't want to hear and fight them on it and later realize (or maybe you realized right away, but later admit) that they were right. Sometimes it just takes a little while for something you don't want to hear to sink in.

So in two different threads now, ZenKing's who is a legitimate blackjack enthusiast and legitimately asking for help, has apparently rubbed some the wrong way with his sometimes cocky attitude. This has given those that are supposed to be the grown-ups and know better, permission to dismiss him and even attack him.

I found the initial thread by ZenKing where he was or is planning to move to Las Vegas to be and the advice and judgments (that he didn't ask for) to be appalling. That thread and most of the advice and judgments from people not qualified to offer either is the exact type of thing that screams that WoV is no longer a legitimate AP related site, where younger or aspiring AP's can go to receive a little help.

A guy in his mid 20's with 50K bankroll, taking his shot at his dream whether it be APing or being an actor or whatever, is not the worse thing. And quite frankly after some of the stories we have heard of young guys with a couple thousand dollars bankroll, he is far better prepared than most. Hell there was one guy during my time at WoV, that was going to use credit advances on his credit card as his bankroll! Another had a wife and new born baby! Those were situations were the person was completely unprepared and should receive advice to not pursue his dream. Not someone who has been a blackjack enthusiast for several years, playing part-time for several years and who has built a 50K bankroll to begin his 'quest'.

The WoV crowd seems to misinterpret the situation like he was asking for permission or like he was their son asking for advice. And most of those offering their 'judgments' were in no way qualified to do so.

So yes, I join freddy is my disappointment of how the WoV crowd handled this situation and condemnation of Mike for allowing it and BBB for suspending a legitimate AP asking for guidance, just because she didn't approve of his attitude.

 

The Whale is just pissed off because 2016 is over and no man fucked her and she can't see her pussy.

Perhaps someone will fuck her in 2017. They'll get $1,500 from me if they do it.

 

WOV Forum Rule 6 reads in part: "Profanity is prohibited, especially the F word. (Amended 2/13/14 to not allow profanity at all)". Everyone knows the rule and I certainly don't dispute it...or the right to have it or any rule. The guy that treats women as objects, the guy who rates women on their appearance, the guy who seeks out prostitutes wants no profanity.

So everyone is on equal footing. Right? Right? Well not quite. It's the enforcement that comes into question...it's always comes back to the enforcement. Never, with one exception, has anyone been suspended for a first offense of posting the F word and that would be a minor infraction...certainly not a 7 day punishment.

Dozens of posts have been edited...cleaned up by the mods to avoid any action. Dozens more have been asked to, and given ample time to, edit their posts. Still dozens of others have been ignored by the mods and are still there...sans any penalty.

Oh, yes. That one exception was Kentry. Husband of the year/Mission146/Pavlov146/[Admin Edit: personal info removed as per anti-doxxing rules]/PavlovianModel146/Metallicat146/Brandon James pulled a 7 day "gotcha" on Kentry after being cajoled by "the boys". Kentry's crime? While talking about a mistake he made, he posted "I fuced up" taking Beached Whale's advice at face value when said to "Please mask your F bombs". And that's exactly what Kentry did.

There are dozens of examples of the F word being used on WOV since the amendment of 2/23/14. There's no point in listing them but here's a few in no particular order.

May 1, 2014 from teddys on the movie The Gambler: "They fucked it up royally". This was just over a month after the amendment. No action taken.

Sept 23, 2016 from a Toes 14 blog: "How fucking humiliating". And he even put those words in bold. No action taken.

Jan 13, 2016 Ahiromu: "I realized I was sitting across from Mike fucking Tyson".

Feb 19, 2015 Ahiromu: "Fuck you British Airways". Ah...a repeat offender. No action taken.

Notice that none of these examples were "masked"...Whale style. The posts that garnered the suspensions pale in comparison.

There you have it...another reason why WOV is dying. Favoritism, uneven enforcement of the rules and sheer incompetence of the mentally unbalanced mods.

 

I thought enough was enough?????
I thought critiquing wov and people on wov was passe
I thought this type of comment was attributed to the "obsessed and unhappy"

I guess my cogent follow up posts convinced him otherwise...........either he changed his mind or is a hypocrite

only he truly knows

it was nice to see KJ comment on the mistreatment of someone other than himself.

 

Your smoking fags, nitwit. Everyone knows what you really mean. You're a fucking troll. You are also a god dam coward. Quit fucking with people for no reason.

 

I Knew you were going there freddy....and you are right.
Mods have bragged about "cleaning up" the words of others as if they need a pat on the back for saving us from the brutality of reading words that we say and hear every day.

when someone is on the "wrong" side of an issue the smoking jacket crowd can count onf beached whale to try to find a way to shut the person up..as she tried with EB in a recent thread.

there is very good selective protection....depending on who you are and what you think. Anti Hillary has a shorter leash than anti Trump. Its a fucking gambling site so this should not be. But it is. It is allowed.

Selective punishment has been something I talked about from the first posts here on this thread.

Punishment for rules that dont exist are also a topic of interest throughout the years.

And its allowed first by a socially backward manboy....and now through a corporate entity that allows it trough the oversight of a socially backward manboy....and his free worker bees.

People take thelead of the boss...in business. If you have a boss that treats customers like shit...then the lower rung workers will follow.
We have that here......the socially backward manboy, attracts people to work for him that look up to him and his methods. He is their god.
They owe him something.......he owes them nothing. Not even a gift card after a 2 million dollar sale.

And they smile and say good for him. As long as he allows us to fuck with people.......its worth working for free.

and there you have it.....a socially backward manboy who admits to suspending for his mental health .......and his free worker bees who get to do what they like best.....fuck with people.....and participate in hijacking of threads without repercussion.