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Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by LovePotion9, Sep 5, 2015.

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  1. Mission146

    Mission146 Well-Known Member

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    How many of the 1,575 Members here visit daily, again? How many of them post? How many people post/visit daily here compared to there? Which site gets more Non-Member visits?

    It's okay, you tried.
     
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  2. freddy

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    Greetings. How many members here have been banned for life and are still falsely counted as members? It's okay, you tried. Your idol, manboy, must be so proud. I'll be right back. I hope you can answer a few questions....for transparency sake.
     
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  3. Mission146

    Mission146 Well-Known Member

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    What's your point? My main contention against your (typical) moronic position is that only on very few Forums (most extremely young) does the ratio of total Members compared to daily visitors even approach 5%, much less greater numbers. You haven't addressed that. Now, you're bitching about how Banned Members are counted.

    How are banned Members counted, here? How would I know?

    The only thing I know is that the way our Forum is programmed it is literally impossible to delete a Member. You wouldn't want that to be possible, because then people could get jacked and request that all of their posts be deleted. As you may remember from several pages ago, that is something even the Admin HERE is unwilling to do because then the discussions lose context. Because we cannot delete members, we have no ability to make them not appear as Members anymore. I guess, technically, there may be a way to make them not appear as Members who have visited, 'Today,' but I don't even know if that is true.
     
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  4. freddy

    freddy Well-Known Member

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    I'm back. Oops, it looks like I violated WOV forum rule 5 by posting the same thing more than once. It's okay because it's so fascinating. Why won't you post a link for everyone to enjoy your unique writing style?

    A few questions if I may.

    Does Alexandra ride along with you when you have your penis and testicles out? Is she okay with it or did you have to gradually ease into it?

    How long have you been a flasher? Have you ever been caught? Have you ever sought help for your deviant sexual behavior?

    How often do you do it? Do you have a favorite highway?

    On a scale of 1-10, how weak a link do you consider yourself?

    Do you still have the urine soaked shorts?

    Is Alexandra proud of her man for writing the article?

    You say you weren't masturbating.....yet. Care to elaborate?

    Will you post a link to your fine article?
     
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  5. MrV

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    When I was in high school we used to get wasted and go out and drive through nearby neighborhoods mooning people.

    Does that count as a perversion, or just a prank?
     
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  6. Mission146

    Mission146 Well-Known Member

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    Don't worry, Freddy, an inability to form many original thoughts is a common condition of the mentally retarded. It's not your fault. But, seriously, isn't this like the 433rd time you mentioned the CL post? Each of which conveniently omitting the disclaimers?

    >>>>>>I'm back. Oops, it looks like I violated WOV forum rule 5 by posting the same thing more than once. It's okay because it's so fascinating. Why won't you post a link for everyone to enjoy your unique writing style?

    Because I'm not bothering to find the CL post again due to the fact that I posted it over a month ago. The only person fascinated by it is you, I'd have long since forgotten about it otherwise. In fact, this is the last time I'm going to address it because anything you had to say about it could have already been said on one of the other 432, or so, occasions that you've mentioned it.

    >>>Does Alexandra ride along with you when you have your penis and testicles out? Is she okay with it or did you have to gradually ease into it?

    See disclaimer, she cannot ride with me on a non-event.

    >>>How long have you been a flasher? Have you ever been caught? Have you ever sought help for your deviant sexual behavior?

    Never. Disclaimer, non-event. Disclaimer, I have no such behavior. In fact, I don't believe I have any sexual behavior that an ordinary person would consider, 'Deviant.'

    >>>How often do you do it? Do you have a favorite highway?

    Never, disclaimer. In general terms, Merritt Parkway in Connecticut is my favorite highway if it can be considered a highway. If not, then the section of I-70 that runs through Indiana and Illinois, after you get out of Indianapolis if you're travelling Westbound from Ohio.

    >>>On a scale of 1-10, how weak a link do you consider yourself?

    That's tough to answer, in general terms. My answer would have to depend on a specific area. I'm quite a weak link, in some respects.

    >>>Do you still have the urine soaked shorts?

    No, my post specifically stated that I threw them away. For someone who brings up the same thing 400-some times, which implies you have read it 400-some times, your poor reading comprehension ability is embarrassing.

    >>>Is Alexandra proud of her man for writing the article?

    She found it moderately amusing, at best. Perhaps only mildly amusing.

    >>>You say you weren't masturbating.....yet. Care to elaborate?

    Disclaimer, non-event.

    >>>Will you post a link to your fine article?

    No, because I have better things to do than look for it, like engage in this fine conversation with you.

    Would you like to get back to the original subject matter, or can I accept your constant diversions as a concession of the weakness of your position?
     
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  7. Mickey Crimm

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    I understood fully when Shack nuked him. Larry was a goddamm troll on a moderated site.
     
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  8. Mickey Crimm

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    Mission, give them hell, brother. I understand my nuking on WoV. These other clowns don't. They are all chickenshit punks and you are a real man. Mission, I only endorse real men.....and women. You, BBB, Face, have my endorsement. The candy ass punks on this site don't.
     
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  9. MrV

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    Kudos to "the leader of the pack," aka The Wiz, for being a fitness buff.

    Most casino goers are slugs, or sluggards, but not that guy.

    He's still waiting for somebody from the board to accept his unicycle challenge.

    *toasts*

    To ftiness!
     
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  10. Mickey Crimm

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    Fuck LarryS. Where is Boz? There is something going on here. Behind the lines. There is some chickenshit going on here. Or else Boz would have posted by now. I know bullshit when I see it. Boz has been banned and Larry is boycotting. Now that's one hell of a scenario.

    Fuck Larry. I know god dam well that Boz has been barred from this site. This site can suck my motherfuckin' dick.
     
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  11. Mickey Crimm

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    If I don't hear from Boz I'm going to quit posting here.
     
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  12. RS

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    Why the hell's it matter? Every forum I've been on, AFAIK, treats banned members as a "member" for the various statistics (how many signed in right now, views, active, etc.). Same thing regarding "active" members, on some forums it's 1 or more posts, or 5, or 10. Never seen one that truly checks if a member is "active" (ie: made X posts in the last Y days).

    Well, there was one forum I participated on a while ago, but it's fairly dead now. Many members were programmers and all the web admins were very skilled programmers (and very young). Like, people who'd make (program/code) operating systems just for fun. Anyway, that forum (the software) was fairly advanced, and they did stuff like declare a banned member as no longer showing up as "active" or count for "logged in today", and also only considered people active if they made X posts in the last Y days and/or some amount of login time over the last Z days. It was kinda weird, but it worked quite well.
     
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  13. freddy

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    It doesn't really matter but if the kitchen guy from the UK makes one spam post and gets banned, it's a stretch to call him a member. Only 1140 of the 13,501 members have over a measly 20 posts. That's less than 10%. So 13,000 members doesn't tell the story.

    I was just looking at an old thread over there "Feature Request: Full Top Contributors List". The link is on page 3. It only lists the top 7,000 or so. Look at all the ones with just one post. And that's not counting the 6,000 that are not on there. Check it out. If you do, notice all the banned members in the top 100.

    It has been suggested on WOV and here that banned WOV members be given a second chance. What are your thoughts on that? Pick and choose people like Buzzard, Mickey and KewlJ or tear down the wall for everyone? Buzzard got a raw deal....he's one of the most likeable people over there but Zuga had to act like a 2 year old and ban him. Mickey's salty language could be cleaned up as could anyone's. Larry stimulates conversation. KewlJ takes the time to help others without being smug or condescending. Many others have specific knowledge not readily available to the masses.

    What do you think...MAKE WOV GREAT AGAIN?
     
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  14. RS

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    RE: first & second paragraph -- So in other words, you agree, it doesn't matter. Why are you posting about it, then?


    3rd paragraph -- no, don't "tear down the wall and let everyone back in".

    Larry -- no, he's an idiot/troll.

    Buzzard -- don't remember much about him on WOV. I think he got banned shortly after I started posting there. IIRC, I thought the ban from Zuga seemed legitimate.

    Mickey -- I don't really care much either way about "potty mouths". If a forum doesn't want to allow swearing, fine. If they allow it, also fine. I wouldn't be opposed to Mickey being back on WOV. But I definitely see why he was banned.

    KJ -- I don't think he should have necessarily been banned to begin with. I wouldn't be opposed to him coming back to WOV (if he doesnt keep making posts attacking Norm/Mike/any others personally), but in lieu of what has transpired since his ban - I'm not going to stick up for him and demand he be unbanned or anything like that.


    I'm all for second chances, given the person changes his attitude or whatever the person did to get banned. Someone like Larry could be given a second chance, but not right now, since he's still a trolling idiot. I don't care to keep up with all of buzzard's new accounts, but I don't think I'd have a problem if he was given another chance (I'd have to go through his more recent posts on his 10000 accounts to see how he is now to give a better opinion......which I don't really care to do).
     
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  15. freddy

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    I posted about it because the 13,000 member number is deceiving. It doesn't matter to me but it might to others. Maybe that false number was the reason the site sold for so much. I read the forum for a few years before joining and it was much, much better before. Good mods, good content and good discussion. Not even close anymore. It happens. Things change. Bringing back members who were banned just for spite, just to feed manboy's ego may not help at this point but there's nothing to lose. An added bonus would be that manboy and his merry mods could relive the best part of their lives by getting to ban them all over again.
     
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  16. Admin Team

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    Banned users are not included in the member count and do not show in the member list or search. In addition, the profile pages of banned users are only accessible by Admins.

    Boz has not been banned and has no restrictions on his account.

    Here is the profile page of an actual member that has been banned.
     
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  17. MrV

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    They'll never do it at WoV, but if indeed Zuga et al want to allow "The Banned" to post again, they might be able to set it up so that the postings of The Banned would be visible only to registered members.

    They could also limit the duration to a day, a week, or whatever and then reinstate the ban at their whim.

    Heck, The Banned could be limited to posting in only one thread.

    Never happen though.
     
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  18. Mission146

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    Nice to see you, as always! I definitely appreciate the endorsement, and right back to you.
     
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  19. Mission146

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    I can understand where you would say it's a stretch to call the person a Member and I will concede that it is something of a stretch.

    My point is EVERY FORUM COUNTS THEM THAT WAY, other than maybe the one RS mentioned. You have Members here at this Forum with zero posts, you have Members over here with one post, many of whom, presumably made a spam post. What percentage of the 1,577 Members here have over 20 posts? I can't find any easy way to tell that, but I'd be shocked if that number is 300, or more.

    So, 1,577 Members doesn't tell the story.

    And, I would say, "If that is the point that you are making, then that is technically a salient point," but I would only do that as soon as you acknowledge that the vast majority of Forums out there count numbers the same way. It's not like this is unique to WoV or some heretofore unheard of method of counting Members to boost numbers.

    Yes, and I can find no easy way to determine how many of the 1,577 here only have one post, or how many have zero posts other than going through all of them. If you would like to do that and see how the percentages compare, feel free, but I'm not doing it simply because making my point doesn't matter that much to me.
     
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  20. Mission146

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    As is the 1,577 number, if you even consider that deceiving. Anyone could create a thread asking, "What is the criteria to be counter as a Member," and I would answer that publicly. Deception is really more of a deliberate attempt to mislead, and I don't think that is what anybody is doing because almost all forums count members that way, and anyone who is not being deliberately obtuse acknowledges that is the way forums count the statistics.

    It must matter to you, because you sure bring it up more than most people I've ever encountered on just about any forum I've ever been on during my entire life.

    The second statement is either just you deliberately being an idiot, unintentionally being an idiot or a failure to take five seconds and actually consider your statement. The sites sold, more or less, to LatestCasinoBonuses.com which itself has a forum. Said forum on LCB tracks Members in much the same way as they are tracked on WoV, so I very seriously doubt if anyone involved in the decision to purchase the sites was deceived by the numbers. It's also pretty common knowledge that they really effectively bought WoO and WoV was just part of the package.

    Let me make sure I understand this: You read the forum for a few years, thought it was awesome, but were not compelled to join. At some point, you decided the forum paled in comparison to its previous self and it was only then that you thought, "I need to become a Member, here!"
    Yeah, that makes sense. I always join places that I don't like as much as I once did...despite the fact that I apparently didn't like it enough to join at its peak.
     
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