Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

A lesson in flip flopping from the master himself...Michael Whitney Shackleford. Read and learn. Re kewlj's ban from Wov:

Sept 15, 2016. Wizard/Sad Shack: "I have said all I have to say on the matter many times. If you don't like how KJ was treated, there are plenty of other forums out there."

Sept 15, 2016. Member post: "And there is no room to resolve it and let him back?"

Sept 15, 2016. Wizard/Sad Shack: "Nope. Will never happen as long as I have anything to do with it."

Sept 15, 2016. Wizard/Sad Shack: "There are two forum members who are dead to me --kewlj and Statman."

June 2, 2018. Wizard/Sad Shack starts a thread called "Announcement From Kewlj." He then posted a very lengthy message from kewlj about his partner's demise, gambling etc...citing yet another exception to the messages from banned members rule...a rule that he breaks anytime he feels like it. In fact he suspended himself once for doing just that. Message from kewlj delivered...ban still in effect.

June 3, 2018. Bitch Bum Blabs: "The ban was because of the threats KJ made repeatedly and at lenght against the Wizard's person, his business and reputation."

June 3, 2018. Bitch Bum Blabs: "You don't get to threaten the site owner/operator and then return. Can't think of any website that would allow that."

May 15, 2020. Wizard/Sad Shack: "I am announcing that kewlj has been un banned from DT. This is a probationary step for possible unbanning here." (WoV)

Then he directs everyone to go to his DT site. Isn't that what it's all about? Trying to revive that stale site that has been on life support for so long? Yes...he's a user and he doesn't try to hide it. What will Sad Shack's next move be? Looking for his lost integrity?

 

Greetings!

It's possible that you won't like this explanation, but what he said was not incorrect. In order for it to be incorrect, she would have had to have selected a number in the first place. For example, what is the probability of the result being a seven?

Easy, 1/38.

Now, if I walk up to a Roulette table and announce I am going to spin off eight 7's in a row, that probability is:

1 in 2.300018e-13 which is the 0.0000000000002300018 or 1/0.0000000000002300018 = 1 in 4347792060757.7853738535959283796909 (Difference due to rounding).

However, if my goal is just to spin eight of the same number in a row, then the first result is irrelevant. There is a 100% probability that it will either be 0, 00 or 1-38, so effectively, my goal is just for the next seven to be the same as that one.

And, that's where the discrepancy comes from. She wasn't, "Calling her shot," so to speak, so the first number could be anything and the seven in a row figure applies thereafter.

Unless she was going for a particular number, then ignore everything I said. I did not watch the podcast, so I have no idea, but you didn't make it sound like she was going for a particular number.

 

You decided to make a cameo appearance for that? Talk about missing the point! Stick to stories of flashing genitals to unsuspecting members of the public and enabling scumbags like WON, nugget boy!

 

He’s just a lackey that probably lays awake at night fretting because it didn’t come up with the idea for the “what did you have for breakfast thread”. Plus the fact he threw in the administration job there over some overrated tantrum or other, because he couldn’t just resign without a dramatic ending as any normal person would. So it’s back to quoting ten digit number to the power of a gizillion sequences to bring some sort of comfort to a meaningless existence . Then to cap it off he has to endure that bigger fool onawetdream doing an even worse job than he ever did. And watching on as the English fool acts like a complete hypocrite degenerate gambler as he ridicules others yet post how much fun he has throwing money at casino online EVEN though he tells people not to gamble. Life sure sucks if you are either of them. Cheers

 

Hey, nice to see you guys! I hope you’ve both been doing well, whoever the hell you two are.

I’ve long established that BWC has little in the way of material, considering the nuggets challenge was, what, nearly six and a half years ago? I imagine if I pop in thirty years from now, that’ll still be part of the spiel. Time flies when you’re trolling gambling forums, I guess. Oh well. At least you’re doing what you love.

Let’s address PunkCity, whoever the hell he is.

I don’t really post in the non-gambling threads particularly often, if you must know. You can search my posts if you don’t believe me. So, no, the fact that I didn’t create a thread that I don’t believe I’ve ever even opened is of no concern.

I reread that resignation post. It was probably a little over dramatic, but it wasn’t terrible, or anything.

I agree that my existence is meaningless, but so is yours and so is just about everyone else’s. That’s hardly a characteristic unique to me. If you really must know why it went to so many decimal places, that’s just the result of copy/pasting. I didn’t do that to be showy, I did it because I was too lazy to round it off to something.

I’m afraid I have no idea who or what the rest of your post refers to, OnceDear, I take it? I don’t really know anything about his gambling habits.

I think the ironic thing about the most vociferous of the WoV forum detractors is that they pay immeasurably more attention to what’s going on there than I do, (Since resigning) and I get paid to write for the family of sites!

Anyway, good health and prosperity to you, PunkCity. I hope you have an excellent day. Whoever the hell you are. You too, BWC, though having that handle is still a punk bitch move. Imagine someone on the Internet irritating me to the extent that I created a handle just to ridicule that person!

 

As far as being a lackey, that’s not true. I assure you I’m quite capable of being a deeply flawed person of little to no consequence independently.

 

Regardless of the wording, you can't possibly believe Heather's claims from what I posted...and no Heather did not misspeak. She meant exactly what she said. Maybe she was trying to impress Wizard/Sad Shack? Check the livestream if you have a chance. What are the odds of breaking records for consecutive spins in a row 4 times or more? Is there enough room on the page for that number?

WoVers have no problem taking Alan M to task for the yo's and no problem bashing Rob for his wins and the RV claims. Why do they suddenly become strangely silent on Heather's preposterous claims? Are they afraid?

 

Wizard/Sad Shack's creepy "proclivities" were brought up on another forum. Something about a hiking trip. I think this is what was being referenced. The above post is from Jan 15th, 2016. Enjoy, guys.

 

Yet you are compelled to make a comment in reply to a post that has nothing to do with you. Someone or something put you up to it on it’s /their behalf, ergo lackey. If you read my post I was actually saying you are a better mod than that English thing is or ever will be , in my opinion. As for being deeply flawed that’s why god led man to invent elevators just makes it easier to get upstairs and back. The rest is just hackney trolling, put your big boy shoes on. And thanks I will have an excellent time always. Don’t worry you have more relevance than the majority on that other forum, as a mod at least you stood up for some people and attempted to be somewhat fair. Oh do you know why my name is punkcity? It was going to be something else but the C and T on my keyboard only works on some oppasions .
Pheers.

 

Ah...."The Pennsylvania Pecker." Let me see if I can find that post.

 

You must have missed the part where Freddy specifically asked for someone to comment on it, I guess.

I did read your post and, as far as your comparative opinion goes, I appreciate you saying that. I think OnceDear is a fine mod, though I must admit that opinion is unqualified because, since resigning, I pay little to no attention to Administrator actions there as they have nothing to do with me and I generally follow the posting rules.

Ha! I like the bit at the end, that's pretty clever.

 

Good morning to you!

I think that gambling is an odd thing where everyone seems to want to have the most unlikely tale to tell, so most people involved with gambling in any way tend to have a flair for embellishment. Sometimes that flair for embellishment will lead to getting called out on claims that venture towards, "Nearly impossible," territory.

I think the least likely thing I've ever had happen is that I got dealt four deuces with a joker (best possible hand) on Deuces Wild Joker Poker once. I sent someone who has been on WoV a long time a picture of that, though, so I can get second-party confirmation that it happened.

I can't speak for what anyone else does or does not do, although, I did take some flak for asserting the position that what Alan M. said--whilst ridiculously unlikely--is not strictly mathematically impossible.

In math, there is a term that represents impossible, and that term is '0'. If you have 0.x~, then the event is no longer impossible, provided there are something other than zeroes to the right of the zero, however far. At that point, you just have to remain logically and mathematically consistent in your assertions.

For example, I can't say that all betting systems in a game with a house edge are mathematically doomed to eventual failure and simultaneously say that eighteen Yo's in a row is literally impossible. That would set a standard for something like the Martingale where it would become 'Impossible' for the system to fail. I'm not going to get into a specific demonstration on that because it would be time spent with no real purpose and I already know that you know what I'm talking about.

I did hop, skip and jump around the most recent livestream just because I hadn't seen any of them before. I kind of take Wizard's position that I can be presented with information, which I then decide is true or not and then that's good enough for me. The only real things that I set about proving wrong are things that are mathematically impossible or to prove that no betting system conquers the house edge.

And, to that extent, Rob Singer is of little to no interest to me, though everyone seems fascinated by him. Maybe just bored.

Also, you make it sound like Wizard already pointed them extreme unlikelihood of the event in question out to Heather, so why would anyone else do it? I guess she was a dealer. I can't say every dealer has a far-fetched tale, but every dealer I've ever spoken to at-length certainly has. It's just something that happens in the world of gambling and is of little to no concern or consequence to me. Present a claim and I'll decide if I believe it or not.

 

You guys are still obsessed with that. If it makes you feel better, even if it had actually happened, you didn't miss anything special. Without getting into specific measurements, I'll allow that it's certainly not 9.5 inches long.

 

I wanted to add to this, "...because both statements rely on the same underlying concept," but I guess my edit clock expired.

 

WoV has drummed it into everyone's head that it's the math...the math...the math. It's always the math...nothing else. No one denies that math plays an important part in gambling but not everyone cares about fractions of a percent when they go to a casino.

When I said on WoV that I played roulette and asked others about any methods they may use...I was ridiculed, mocked, insulted and worse. I understand the 5% edge. I understand that I play a losing game. I like to play that losing game and don't need a bunch of socially awkward, uptight geeks shoving their math down my throat. It's fun! And when it is no longer fun...I won't play.

So what happened to the math...the math...the math when Heather made her embarrassing faux pas? And I'm being generous in calling it a faux pas. Most would see it as an outright lie. Nothing happened. Wizard/Sad Shack made a quick passing comment on the astronomical odds or her claim of spinning the same number 8 times in a row. He then swept it under the rug. Go ahead, somebody, and ask him about it. You will be guaranteed to have a target on your back if you do. Guaranteed.

That number is huge. An even larger number would be the odds of doing that PLUS 4 or or 5 more similar spins of the same number in the small time frame she describes. The 8 in a row insults the intelligence of anyone who can add 2+2. Nevermind all the other spins.

Maybe someone should go to her site, Vegas Asses, and ask her about it. Sorry...Vegas Aces. What are the odds that i would misprint that? Can I do it 8 times in a row.

 

"Someone with multiple personality disorders should not be in a position of authority."

OMFG!
Which explains why your personal troop isn't running this website.

I don't know if this is hilariously ironic delusion or a completely undiscovered facet of multiple personality disorder that would have fascinated Freud.
Freddy, moe, curly, nathan... all of you ... are a true trip.

 

...And oops, include punkcity. When 17 is not enough. Or is that 27?

 

That's a perfectly fair position to take.

As before, not knowing who you are/were over there makes it difficult to offer a specific response to this claim. I certainly don't deny it, as it is something that happens/happened over there with some frequency, particularly when someone is discussing systems. I've probably been more scathing in my commentary as relates people promoting systems than I have any right to be. Ideally, I should just mathematically prove (if I'm going to say anything at all) that it makes no difference and move on.

As far as playing a losing game is concerned, your take on it is a perfectly healthy one, one that I encourage and you really shouldn't be demanded to do anything else. Understand the odds, know the house edge against you, only gamble what you can afford to lose and stop when it's not fun anymore. All good things. Very healthy attitude to take.

I imagine his passing comment reflected how much he cares about the claim. You brought up Singer earlier, the time people spent on it reflects how much people care about his claims. I've spent almost zero time on it, which reflects how much I care about it. You've got a former dealer making a claim that relies on an astronomically unlikely thing occurring, Jimmy cracked corn and I don't care. That's not an unusual type of claim for a dealer to make.

I know a dealer who would swear on a Bible that he dealt out three consecutive 4OaK's on Mississippi Stud. All I said was, "While, that's pretty wild and damn near impossible." Why would I challenge the claim to any greater extent? It makes zero difference to me.

That's a fair statement. It's an extremely, ridiculously and astronomically improbable event and I would require nothing short of video evidence or a great number of corroborating witnesses for me to personally believe it. But, again, it really makes no difference to me whether it happened or not. That said, I can't say that it's mathematically impossible, because then I would be inconsistent with myself.

I've never visited that site to the best of my recollection, and again, I'm not so concerned with her claim that I would ever be inclined to set up an account (or whatever you have to do) to ask her about it. You're certainly more than welcome to.

 

See that’s where you don’t understand comedy. Some material is timeless. How many decades did Rodney Dangerfield do his “I don’t get no respect” shtick? This is similar in that you’ve provided everyone with some laughs for the ages, albeit unintended and at your own expense.

Did you ever manage to get that best of craigslist award? No? That’s too bad! lolz

 

You know I thought you could be suffering from Coronavirus cabin fever but I looked up your previous posts and nope, obviously something else is at play here for someone to post the nonsensical gibberish you posted. So I got to thinking and as a devotee of Jung psychology as opposed to Freudian dribbling , Freud by the way has been hugely discredited in the psychological world, ift would appear to me you are having a particularly nasty period. Now my late wifey, god bless her cotton socks and the ground she walked on , used to have terrible terrible mood swings during her period, she at times would be totally nonsensical such as yourself. I love her so much and miss her dearly but she had an excuse and I would deal with that particular time of the month with tact and kindness. You know what her excuse was ? She had a vagina. You pal don’t have an excuse for being a vagina , there is a difference between having one and being one, and perhaps you should remove that gerbil with the bazooka from your ass. Your starting to develop toxic shock. If you’re going to write something make sense, if you call somebody out on something spell it out as I’m saying to you —use a bigger tampon like the size of a queen size mattress . Perhaps you are a sock puppet of one of your own sock puppets sock puppet, that’s an adaptive reference to Robert downy jr monologue at the end of the movie tropic thunder . Check it out might cheer you up, but I doubt it . Just think if you where actually a woman how happy you could be you, know that vagina thingie we spoke of, it would certainly give your rectum a break from your fist, nevertheless at least your prostrate should be healthy. But is renal/ prolapse failure worth it? Oh well each to their own I guess. Try the bigger mattress at least. Look forward to more nonsensical gibberish from you puppet of a wov puppet.
At least mission makes sense and he’s not a vagina and if he thinks he’s irrelevant what’s that make you besides a toxic shocked vagina? Oops you being a vagina is a puppet vagina of a vagina,
( self sex toy? it just gets better and better you are just so open I could go on for days but I digress too far for a bracketed sub text let’s continue),
that is not really a good way to become a part of the collective consciousness of a perceived belief of the many ( re Jung psychology of ID ) that’s ID not I’d as in me doing something, or id as in an Ap moves of identification theft
Cheers
Ps please reply this is going to be fun !!!!!!!!! I’m so looking forward to this I might start a new thread just for you. Why ? because it seems you only chip in on threads with your nonsense and I haven’t seen a thread started by you. Maybe that “irrelevance” that mission spoke of is real to a person such as yourself . I would call it something like -A thread for Nate by punkcity because Nate don’t know how to create a thread because he can only write nonsense , and he can put all his nonsense here in one spot.
Now that’s a thread.
Oops, Soz very sozzzz, I won’t create a thread as your only nonsense posts are in this thread already no use in wasting internet space on a thread of pure nonsense. Try the bigger mattress.