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Discussion in 'Las Vegas Forum' started by RobSinger, May 27, 2022.

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  1. Lousy Gambler

    Lousy Gambler Active Member

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    Obviously, you are not very observant or good judge of a person. How in the world do you gamble when you are like that?

    Oh, it's the damn slots which require NO MIND to play. Same with the craps. All luck and whatever.

    I see why don't play blackjack. It requires thinking.

    Just kindly go away please if you have nothing good to offer.
     
  2. Lousy Gambler

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    By the way, whether KewlJ accepts my offer or not, it's up to him. He doesn't need you to chime in and interfere.

    In the end, what I offered to KewlJ is real and I understand perfectly if he is skeptical of me since things like this probably doesn't happen too often on the faceless internet if ever. But, I'm sure there are others like me who is just being nice and nothing more.
     
  3. KewlJ

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    No, I don't think your intent is to rob me, although I have been robbed at gun point as a result of my participation on these forums. I take responsibility for that (too much info).

    Look it is like this. I have had people trying and wanting to meet me since I moved to Vegas 13 years ago. I am very cautious about doing so. As you can see there are people, even on this small forum, out to do harm to my career. It is a whole array of characters. On this forum, mostly haters, and just bitter losing gamblers that hate any of the AP's that win long-term. Then you have people that don't even know me that hate me for reasons not even related to gambling.

    Then you have other AP's. In Vegas there are quite a number of AP's that live and work Vegas. Some of them meet up. I just have never seen much benefit. Axelwolf, a top AP here in Vegas and a few others had a meetup with an AP that goes by Monet. What happened? Monet has trashed Axelwolf by airing crap from that night for years now. He frequently mentions what area he lives in. And that is a fellow AP. Supposed to be on the same side against the casinos.

    Then you have a number of AP's including a couple that run/ran forums (Wong and Shackleford), that switched sides and worked for the casinos for a bit. You have other AP's and/or former AP's that have switched sides (Eliot). It just doesn't seem like a good idea to be cozying up to anyone, unless there is a real reason to, like you are partnering or teaming up on a play.

    In the end, I have personally met 2 other AP's. Both live in Vegas and both are very long time members of the community, vetted by many other known players. Both happen to be members of the blackjack hall of fame, although that really doesn't carry much weight with me. I don't think much of some of those guys.

    In the end, I am a solo type blackjack AP, card counter. I have supported myself for 19 years now from winnings from blackjack play and a little bit of other AP play. There is a whole industry of people, 2 industries really, the casino industry and the supporting database industries that try to stop AP's. We literally are at war every day. I just see no benefit to meeting anyone just to meet. Like I said, if I am doing business or partnering with another player, as I have some this, year, that is different. Otherwise, I will continue to play it very cautiously as it has served me well.
     
  4. Lousy Gambler

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    Like I said earlier, it's funny really about people these days.

    If anyone here plays at Hard Rock AC, then they know that when you are at 50+ in age of which I am, Hard Rock offers a coupon for 50% off up to $30 at various restaurants and their buffet on Mondays and Tuesdays.

    I get 4 of them, one for me, my younger brother, my mom, and my dad, so the savings could be up to $120 or more if used at the buffet as they are BOGO at $34.99 plus tax.

    I rarely use them since I have more than enough comps for any food I want to eat and it costs only $10 comp dollars to eat at their player lounge or at the buffet.

    Sometimes, I try to give away the coupons to save people money when they are paying full price.

    I try to spot a family with little kids, so I can let them use the coupons and get them in right away because of my player level instead of waiting an hour to eat from the normal line.

    Only last week, I found a white family of 8 with 4 kids, young couple, and grand parents, so I walked up to them and told them I had coupons that would let them save over $140 since they would have to pay for only 4 of them.

    The husband and wife looked at each other and the husband was shaking his head side to side, so basically the answer was no.

    Then, the wife wanted to take the offer and said what if they lost their place in the line when they find out I was scamming them. I don't know what kind of scam she was thinking of since I never said I wanted any money or anything at all for that matter from them.

    So, I said to them, one of you adults can stay in the line and the rest can follow me and they can go right in paying only 1/2. If I was scamming and they didn't like it then they can just go right back to their line. The grandfather looked at me and shook his head side to side meaning they don't believe me, so they declined. Are they really that freaking stupid? What's with people these days?

    Then, there was an Asian couple standing right behind me who heard our conversation and from their position in the line, it would have taken them over an hour to get into the buffet. The man said he will take the offer. So, I told him to follow me and he paid $37 something for himself and the wife got in for free saving $37 plus. Even though the saving was supposed to be only $30 max, that buffet allows BOGO. He was very grateful and there was another couple right behind me in the regular line when I was letting the Asian couple in. They asked if I had another coupon, so I gave them my second coupon. Four other people behind them saw it and asked me if I had any more, so I gave them the remaining 2.

    So, the moral of the story is this.

    If you have nothing to lose even if it sounds totally outrageous, why not take a chance? What could possibly go wrong to take the coupon offer by that white family? If it turns out that I asked for money or anything else in return, then all they have to do is decline and go back to their line. Instead, they didn't even want to take a chance to see if I was bullshitting or not. They basically gave up $140 cash paying for all 8 of them.

    What's with people these days? Too many people just don't trust anything anymore even if they have nothing to lose.
     
  5. KewlJ

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    Interesting that you say this. See, I DO have something to lose. I have everything to lose! This is how I make a living.

    I was actually hurt pretty significantly this year by someone on this very forum, doxing me, and sending information to the casinos. I have survived that. And even made up some of the slack in money lost thanks to the help of an AP friend, who has thrown some play my way.

    I speculated as to who I think you could be. Maybe I am completely wrong, and you are legit and a nice guy. But in this business, I don't meet people just to meet. I am happy to share my experiences and if someone can pick something up from my experiences that they find useful and beneficial, great. That is as far as I will go.
     
  6. Lousy Gambler

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    Very nice post and I understand you perfectly, but after you see all my posts please do consider my offer to visit AC since I've never met an AP before and I'm just curious as hell what it's all about. If the answer is still no, then I understand and I won't bother you about it again, but I would still like to come and see you at PARX if you wouldn't mind.

    Obviously, I'm not an AP or even remotely close to it. I don't have any intention to become an AP for that matter.

    I am just a recreational player but very good at what I'm doing and I would like to think that I'm getting better at it in recent years after all these years of casino gambling.
     
  7. KewlJ

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    Well, I am sorry to tell you but this "meeting" chapter of our discussion is now closed. I have explained my position as best I can.

    But now, full circle back to you. You do know what AP is right? Advantage Player. A player that finds and plays with an advantage. Today there are endless possibilities. Card counting happens to be one of the oldest and simplest.

    So you admit you are not an AP, not playing with an advantage. How do you explain winning regularly, playing -EV games, enough play to earn comps to live in AC for 2+ years?
     

  8. Lousy Gambler

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    Ok, forget the AC visit then.

    Would you at least let me watch you play at PARX then? If not, then that's okay too as I understand mostly of what you are saying.

    I just don't get why there are people who's intention is to hurt other people especially fellow gamblers. That's just sad.

    I also don't get why and how people are attacking you on these forums. Maybe I haven't read enough of your posts to know you very well yet?

    Personally, I'm impressed with your results playing blackjack and many years ago I was thinking to myself that maybe that's what I should do.

    Then, I looked at the math and it didn't add up, i.e. I didn't think I could make enough playing blackjack to make more than what I'm making as a programmer so that idea went out the door.

    I love what I do programming, so it's not a chore for me like how it is for some others. If I hated my job, then I'm sure I would have seriously looked into becoming a card counter.

    Thanks for what you have provided me so far and good luck to you in the future.
     
  9. Lousy Gambler

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    Yes, I know what AP is.

    But, I don't know what other possibilities there are besides card counting to gain more edge over the casinos for blackjack.

    Truthfully, it doesn't look like blackjack is going to be my focus in a near future, so I probably circle back and look into it if the baccarat thing doesn't pan out.
     
  10. KewlJ

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    No offense, but a "recreational player", not playing with an advantage, playing negative expectation games and winning over several years, and playing enough to earn comps to cover free rooms for 2 solid years, goes against the carefully constructed casino industry model.

    Again, no offense, but we have a guy here in Vegas that has very similar claim over a very similar time period. It just defies the way casinos, and the casino industry works. In both cases, it just feels like you are leaving something out of the story.

    I am off to bed now, I will catch up sometime tomorrow.
     
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  11. Lousy Gambler

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    Maybe I'm very lucky not to lose but win without using things like card counting for blackjack to gain an edge over casinos.

    I play in short sessions whichever games I play and when I'm up a little I walk away. If I'm down, I will fight until I'm get even and I would say I get to even probably more than 90% of the time. My maximum loss limit seems to be about $1,500 as when I lose that much, it becomes almost unrecoverable so when I feel like it's getting there, I try my best to stop instead of betting bigger to get them back. Then, I am able to recover most of what I lost over many days and start over. As long as I don't chase, I'm good.

    Before baccarat in the recent months, the games I played are Face Up Pai Gow Poker (but only the ones with the dice for position selection), Pai Gow Tiles, and some $25/$50/$100 and even $200 minimum blackjack.

    As I've said before, I'm not really winning in blackjack. I do win in Tiles and probably mostly even in Face Up.
     
  12. Lousy Gambler

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    No offense taken and I don't blame you for being skeptical.

    Since I'm not too tired, I will just continue posting so I can get to 300 posts as quickly as I can.
     
  13. Lousy Gambler

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    I play Baccarat at $100 minimum to earn the comped rooms. For whatever the reason, playing $100 minimum baccarat, whether you win or lose, gets me the free rooms so that's that.

    Before Punkcity's thread, I was probably breaking even at best but not anymore as I'm winning more than I could imagine but not even remotely close to his winnings and it's probably because I don't play everyday.

    It all started a few months ago when I was playing $100 minimum and I was probably down about $500.

    I knew about the trends on the derived roads from reading Punkcity's thread, but I was so new at it that I wasn't paying a close attention to the boards.

    Then, I noticed a 1-2 chop trend on Small Road which went on for 4 times already. I wrote a note to myself to follow a trend if it repeated at least 3 times and it was already past it. So, I just started following that trend and it went on for another 4 times which is equivalent to winning 12 in a row. How often do you get that many wins in a row playing blackjack? Not too many times I would assume.

    I recovered my loss at the time and ended up winning a decent amount so I quit. I was supposed to continue following the trend until it's over but as it turned out, the trend broke as soon as I stopped so I saved myself from losing $100.
     
  14. Lousy Gambler

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    Since that day, I'm just walking around looking for trends and I've seen some crazy long trends which are just ridiculous and you just don't see win streaks like that playing blackjack. So, yours and others' perception about baccarat probably isn't very accurate. But who knows, I have barely scratched the surface and I don't know what the long term outlook is playing the trends on the derived boards.

    I don't know about your earnings in the recent years, but I do know how you fared in the early years in Vegas.

    Personally, I think baccarat is more profitable and it's based on what's posted in Punkcity's thread. I don't know how many people believe what he posted, but he is claiming that he has won almost 700K in about 6 months flat betting and only increasing his bet unit size monthly.

    Do you know any AP playing blackjack who had that type of success? I suppose it could be possible if the starting bet unit size was bigger, but not likely.

    Below picture is from Caesars recently and all those single dots are winners in the Main Road.

    Since I follow after 3 repetition, that's 16 wins in a row and I would quit when it hits 2 losses in a row which meant I won 16 units.

    2 blues are even, 2 singles after the 2 blues are winners, 4 reds are 2 losses which would be the stopping point for me at +16 units.

    Following a trend is so much easier than playing blackjack as it's a mindless bet just flip flopping from one side to another every hand. There is nothing to think about until it's over.

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    But, you do, don't you?

    Just kidding. Just padding my posts.
     
  16. Mickey Crimm

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    Give it up, dude. I woke up this morning to find a bunch of new posts in this thread, including yours, which I read first. Of course, the bullshit meter in my head went way up. I was about to issue a warning to KJ. But the next post was Mr. V, with the "danger will robinson" meme. I LMAO. V beat me to it. He can see bullshit coming from miles away too.
     
  17. Lousy Gambler

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    Just so you know that I'm not making up some bullshit stories, I took some pictures to post seeing how just about everyone is skeptical as hell on this forum.

    I am not a big player; thus only 4 coupons at $25 each per week. But they are free and if I win then it's free money. If I lose playing them, then I lose nothing. I did lose 3 out of 4, but I did win banking so I made a bit less than $50 and it was rough, so I quit only after about an hour. Everyone else at the table lost really bad; especially a guy to the left of me. Everyone was playing 2 hands, but the man playing 6 & 7 seats gave up 7 for me to play. That was a mistake as he lost about $1,500 betting $470 per hand on his 6 seat when my seat was better as it wasn't losing but mostly pushing. He should have taken the seat 7 and gave me the 6 or don't give any seat to me at all as he was already playing 2 seats and he is not obligated to give up a seat. Obviously, I was very lucky that he gave me seat 7 instead of seat 6. So, the luck matters absolutely in casino games.

    Even though the free bet ticket says it expires at 12:08 PM on 08/16/22, they allow up to 6 AM the next day when the gaming day ends.

    Borgata_FreeBet_081622.jpg

    You can see the new free bets I printed with the time stamps of 2:20 AM on 08/17/22 along with the one that would expire at 6 AM.

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    This is the game I played and you see Borgata on it not that anyone who plays at Borgata wouldn't recognized their chips.

    Tiles_Borgata_081722.jpg

    You can see the bet size for the guy left of me who gave up seat 7. It's $470. He never won a hand and lost all of about $1,500. That would have been me if he gave me 6, but I may not have lost all of my money since how you set the tiles affects how they come out the subsequent hands. So, luck has a lot to do with this game.

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  18. Lousy Gambler

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    LOL

    You and MrV should get married. You two are one of a kind and you two should be perfect for each other. JFC

    And, not very bright at that. I feel for you.

    I never asked you to believe anything I said, but it's sad because you are DEAD WRONG and yet stupid enough to think that you are right.

    You two are exactly like the white family that I mentioned in my post about the coupons. Call everyone a liar or scammer and never believe anything anyone says.

    What's with you two? KewlJ is a grown man and he doesn't need you two goofs to tell him anything.

    Don't you have better things to do than to come to this board as soon as you wake up?

    Get a life.

    If you don't have anything good to offer, then you should just keep quiet. Oh, I forgot. This is the free speech board. Go ahead. Say more irrelevant things to waste other people's time.

    Where is the damn ignore button when I need it.
     
  19. Lousy Gambler

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    Besides, if you read all of the recent posts, you would recognize that KewlJ isn't taking my offer and the conversation is over about meeting.

    You just had to chime in, didn't you? Can't you just go away?

    I will bet that you are NOT married. Who in the world would want to be with someone like you?
     
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    What are you thinking that something is?

    That I'm losing really bad but lying about it? Even if that was the case, does it really matter if I can afford it? I was losing in the early years and that was many many years ago and I'm not losing now, so there is nothing else to talk about that. Even I am old now, I wised up. Too bad it took a while, but better late than never. It's a good thing that my income allows me to do what I do and I'm grateful for that.

    Just because I am not using something that gives me an edge like card counting, doesn't mean I have to lose. Logically and mathematically, yes I should lose in the long term but I don't. Perhaps it's because I'm winning in sports betting as I never said I'm winning big in casinos. I believe I said I'm probably barely breaking even or making just enough to cover the cost of staying in the hotels for so long.

    How much do you think it costs to stay in casino hotels for a month straight? Not very much at all.

    It used to cost me only $5.27 per night, so that's only $163.37 a month at the maximum.

    NJ state raised $2 more per night, so it's now $7.54 per night and that's still only $233.74 per month. That's way cheaper than staying in an apartment even though I have a house I almost never go to.

    If anyone is a higher level players in AC and have stayed in any of the casinos, then they would know that they don't get charged the resort fees. Except, I don't know what Ocean and Golden Nugget do with their resort fees. If I was being charged the resort fees, then I don't think I would be staying in these casino hotels at all. It wouldn't be worth it for me to stay here since I would be down like a grand a month even before I start playing.
     

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