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NO.

The case Eliot was called in on wasn't even in the United States. It was a very, very high limit player, playing many times the stakes that Mdawg "claims". The guy made monthly trips or so (I forget the frequency Eliot told me). Because he was such a huge Whale type player the casino wanted to give the benefit of doubt, so they waited for him to start losing. When that hadn't happened in 3 years, which at trips one a month (I believe it was even less frequent that that), but let's go with that number, once a month at 2-3 comped nights a trip. That is 24-36 comped nights a year. for 3 years 72- 108 comped nights,

As you can see Mdawg is 10 times more than that now. Plus Mdawgs claims are at one of the sweatiest if not the sweatiest locations on the Vegas strip, that uses the top and latest technology. There is no way they would have allowed 4 years 1000 comped nights. There is no way they would have allowed 1 year and the 300+ comped nights he reported for that first year. My guess is 2 months tops at this location with him living there as he claimed. Maybe less.

A second huge difference is the non-U.S. market Eliot was called into has a history of being ultra conservative, extra careful before they take any action against such a large whale type player. This location Mdawg has said he plays at, had the opposite reputation. They would throw out winning players, who weren't even playing with an advantage, just because they were winning players.

Think of this place in the Mdawg "story" as El Cortez at higher limits. The same mentality. They don't want winners.....PERIOD. Yet we are to believe 1000 comped nights, in their best suites....some of the top suites on the Vegas strip, FOR FOUR YEAR, while this guy does nothing but win.

Belly, I shouldn't have even had to say a word about this story. Other AP's and real players that know shouldn't have had to say a word. It should have been people like you and the late Alan Mendelson, that called this out. But you didn't. You do on almost anything an AP says, but this fantastical story, not only did you nor Alan, nor others like you, never call it out, but you chimed in with your "it's possible" BS.

 

A lotta joints will sweat winners at 21 but they think the baccarats is the un-beatable proposition, hey hey.

 

Somebody not on this forum???

That doesn't exactly narrow it down.

 

Why do you think this is a court of law? Mickey need not prove anything. I need not prove anything. No AP or anyone saying anything need prove it. And, as I have always said, THAT includes Rob Singer. No one is on trial.

And anyone with half a brain doesn't need 'proof' anyway. It just doesn't take much to know who knows what they are talking about and who is talking about silly nonsense like "special plays, "hot and cold machines" and "betting into hot streaks". This is all voodoo gambling 101.

And then credibility comes into play. When a guy tells you that for 10 years he played this voodoo system winning millions of dollars and then years later changed that timelibe to 4 years so he can make room for a new claim stolen from the news.....THAT is a credibility issue. When a guy gets caught taking pictures of himself inside an RV at the dealership posting that is his RV.....THAT is a credibility issue. When a guy posts daily winning reports for 7 months totally $500k in winning and then the next day says "I am about even"....THAT is a credibility issue.

And don't even attempt to say you have that kind of shit with me. What you guys have on me that you make a big deal about, is that I sometimes get fed up with the BS on these forums and announce I am leaving and after I calm down change my mind. That is nowhere near the same thing.

I have shared my wins and losses. Good times and bad times. So has mickeycrimm. That is one of the ways you can easily spot someone being real. That and the stories don't change. The numbers don't change. If I retell a story or event, it is the same this year as 6 years ago. Now it is true, mickey doesn't share numbers, as in winning amounts annually as I do, but what he shares is the good and bad, the ups and down, because THAT is how it works. Gambling, advantage play and Life.

And this 'proof' that you demand, as if someone is on trial...come on man, be reasonable. Look at the Rob Singer provided "proof". Isn't that all the reason necessary why in this day and age..."proof" on these forums is meaningless.

 

By the way, I am surprised you refer to mickeyCrimm's life as incredible. No offense to mickey, but I don't consider most of what he shared before he got into AP on a fulltime basis as all that incredible. Interesting? Hell YES. But not incredible. Tremendous outcome later in life. Tremendous story of over-coming, pulling one self up by the bootstraps sort of thing.

 

That's right.

And if they'll comp Jacobson's big player for 3 years outside the US, convinced that he'll eventually lose it all back, then they'll do the same for MDawg in Vegas.

Because if they don't, then MDawg will take their money and lose it elsewhere, and they can't just let that happen.

They won't surrender to a lucky player. Did they surrender to Karas?

 

Come on coach. I am not stupid despite what the haters say and think, or probably just say. I have a good idea who it was. I am not accusing anyone, nor even mad about it. I didn't ask anyone that knew or found out things about this case to keep it quiet. The only thing I expected was that they would do so while the case was ongoing. It is settled now. I don't care. I can't comment on some things, but if someone pointed you in some direction, that is fine. I am not mad at that person. Just glad they waited until the right time.

By the way, this is no refection, confirmation or denial of anything said or being speculated. This is a big "no comment".

 

You're pretty stupid if you think somebody contacted me privately and nudged me in a different direction.

What different direction do you mean?

 

Partly true. But not entirely. This also used to apply to things like CSM play. Early common wisdom was that CSM's were unbeatable, so no one was ever backed off or banned. Players could bet table min to table max, and the pit would smile and laugh. As time went on they learned differently.

Now to really understand you have to understand some of the way casino pit people work. My knowledge is really based on one friend and a second guy I used to talk to in the industry. My friend works one of the two major strip casinos. I suppose there could be other casinos, that do things entirely differently.

Pit folks are responsible for the games in their pits. If numbers are not what is expected, they have to answer for it. If a player wins an unexpected large amount, they have to answer for it. Now that doesn't mean they are going to be fired if someone wins. Casinos understand variance. That is what the casino model is based on. Having an advantage and riding out the variance. The exact same thing AP's do.

But if Joe smo, pit critter starts having day after day, or weeks that the tables he is responsible for, has a lower hold than expected, then problems start. So this idea that a pit guy in the higher limit room, is patting the guy on his back that wins day after day is beyond goofy. he would be patting the guy on the back that is creating a problem for him, possibly putting his job in jeopardy, should these low numbers continue.

It is just not as portrayed in the Mdawg cronicles....but then nothing is.

 

The baccarats proposition is a thin margin for casino and they know it. Casino will often run in the red for weeks or months on a bounce because of that. i still maintain that the casino will offer fat comps for winning baccarats player based purely on theoretical loss, as opposed to joints in the California where yer only gonna get comp based on ACTUAL loss, hey hey.

 

I'm reminded of an ancient Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times."

 

I won't comment on that, but it was a nice day in Vegas for late June. Do you know now on June 21, we haven't had a 100 degree day yet? I think the record is June 30 and we have some potential triple digit days beginning of next week....so we will get there. Just been a nice June.

Anything else you want to discuss?

Oh there have been a lot of crickets the last month. Not like the invasion of Mormon crickets in Northeast Nevada. (I guess Mormon crickets have funny religious beliefs). I never even noticed crickets or flying grasshoppers until we had that really bad year about 3 years ago. You literally had to have something to brush them off the car like you would brush off snow. So while THAT hasn't returned, we do have a cricket/grasshopper season every may/june now. It is just mildly annoying because if you are walking they jump or fly just as you get close to them, usually jumping on you.

 

I may be mistaken but I thought that the oriental cat what the Jacobson got call in to eye-ball buck up against hundreds of sessions at the baccarats table over the course of some years before the casino even got worried about his play, hey hey.

 

Did kew just say "he isn't stupid"? And did he also say "I'm guessing where MDawg plays that he can't possibly be getting all those comps and be winning at the same time"?

Since you have these "inside people who are willing to risk firing because they turned over private MDawg financial info to you"....WHY DONT YOU JUST ASK THEM THAT TOO??

And kew says he's not stupid? IMHO, only Tasha and redietz are dumber than him.

 

I don't do that because there is no need to do that. I proved that once. How many times do I have to prove you guys are full of shit?

For the record your narrative that my friend who works in the industry put himself in jeopardy is just more Singer bullshit. I suggest you go back and read that incident. I believe it was posted here.

The MGM buyout of Cosmopolitan was only proposed at that time. It didn't actually go through for another year or so. I knew that once it went through my friend would have access to the info of Mdawgs records. So I let that be known. Mdawg panicked and hung himself.

I did ask my friend to look into the situation and see what he could find about a higher limit player supposedly living at Cosmo and winning every day. I sort of regret that, because I just shouldn't ask for something like that for internet shit, which is why I wouldn't do it again.

But my friend violated nothing. Broke no law, violated no privacy policy of his employer. What he did was spoke off the record with another friend he knew in the industry that had that information at that time, a good year before my friend would have had it through his job. So if anybody violated company policy it would have been that second guy, who I don't know, nor have even met.

That is the way things work in Vegas. People know people. And people know people who know people. Vegas has always been about connections. I am not friends with my friend because he works in the industry. That just happens to be a side benefit for me. But I will never ask anything of him again just for this internet shit.

Now Rob you on the other hand make up your connections. A nephew who works at the FBI, A brother-in-law at the IRS. Top secret government and casino sources that turn out not to exist. At VCT you were busted by Dan Druff, for a sock puppet, Girl Friday you created as your expert to dispute something I said about AP's ability to get a mortgage. There is YOUR connections....made up sock puppets that you were busted for.

How is Real Estate Expert Girl Friday, BTW. Maybe she can help you get an apartment so you can move out of your daughter's house and stop mooching of her.

 

You should have stopped wasting your entire day with these unreadable long rambling posts a long time ago. All your lies do is embarrass you further. But....stupid is....

Just as you hung yourself with that foolish "I got inside info on MDawg from MGM execs delivered to me at my dumpy apt. on Halloween " you're further hanging yourself with your constantly made up "MDawg admitted he broke even for the year" nonsense.

Everybody knows you lie about EVERYTHING, and the part you just don't get is everybody laughs at you when your predictable lies keep on coming.

What kind of a loser posts 100,000 words in a day anyway? It's like you ask for the punishment you get across the forums

And you wonder why Shack can't stand you? (Yes, that's how he feels about you). On top of that, everyone who toys with you is eating your lunch! Think about it---the people YOU lie to so much just to get their acceptance!

Medication time!!

 

You can tell when I have scored on Rob.

What was it Rob, the Girl Friday comments?

 

You mean because of another one of your lies?

Yeah that's it.

BTW, Shack doesn't allow liars on his show. I'm going to contact him and give only him your real name so he can look up your imaginary lawsuit for himself. I have my nephew's OK on that since he knows we're all dealing with a delusional nutjob who doubles as a pathological liar.

How's them apples tasting now.....

 

Shackledord knows my real name. He has for some time. How does those apples taste, you retard?

 

You're completely wrong about this, kewlJ. Rob's current address is not his daughter's house. It's a cute house in --- hell, is giving out somebody's address doxing? Is there some silly rule on this forum about it?

Nawww, doxing has to do with names, right?

Anyway, anybody can look it up. Just shoot me a PM at VCT, and I'll pass it along.