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Video Poker $1 Full Pay Deuces Wild with a 1% meter

Discussion in 'Video Poker Forum' started by Mickey Crimm, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    In the Inn of the Mountain Gods thread at WoV, ET made a comment about $1 Full Pay Deuces Wild with a 1% meter once being there. That is true. Ali was camped out at the place because of a few hours a day where you got bonuses for making hands like suited blackjacks at the blackjack table. It was strong enough that he had a significant edge just using basic strategy.

    Ali kept an eye on the Deuce progressive and when it approached $6000 he called Randy in Laughlin. Axel knows Randy. Randy would drive down and they would lock up all four machines until they hit the royal. It was a $500 an hour play. The deuce progressive got squashed about 2002.
     
  2. nate

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    MC. I'm in the process of reading the whole 2015 thread you started about 'what is ap'. I wasn't sure you would even read that thread so I posted here, maybe off topic. I didn't realize what AP was thoroughly until reading that thread. I think you were very generous in what you published. I also learned a couple of other things and I'm not done reading yet. One, even though I can't take back my earlier crude remarks, I'm convinced you're not the asshole type I so flippantly spouted off about. And I apologize.

    On the gambling side, I think I see where AP is by your postings. Am I correct that people are taking advantage of the extra curricular events added to games beyond the reels and lines of pure plays? In these 'side' games, the metered things, coins in a stack, hats on a cat...etc, this is above and beyond just what is on the roll or reels on the main game. These extra things are created as enticements themselves and I think you and AP's aren't playing the odds of the payout themselves, but when the extra stuff comes up. These extra's are set in by designers and don't follow normal gaming play odds? It's like playing 2 different levels on the same game. I didn't really catch this fully until reading that thread so far. Forgive me for this being so noob about this revelation.

    Also, when you or another says the 'meter' should reset at 'n' amount, should I assume this means you actually studied this machine for as long as it takes to see the pattern? Don't the casinos see this and change that too?
    Thanks.
     
  3. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that's pretty much it. A vulture (one type of advantage player) mostly just picks off bonuses when they are ripe. It's an easy read once one learns something about it.
     
  4. Mickey Crimm

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    It really doesn't matter where the meter resets other than it helps tell me how often I might expect a positive play on that particular bank. What matters is where the meter is currently at.
     
  5. nate

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    Thanks for the responses.
     
  6. AxelWolf

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    I knew Ali fairly well also. I haven't seen him for a while, last time was probably about 2005 at the Riverside where he was mainly playing poker.
     
  7. Mickey Crimm

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    Ali loved Omaha 8. I'll bet that's what he was playing. I wonder if he's still married to the Mississippi girl.
     
  8. AxelWolf

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    At the time he was playing 1-2 NLH. We were playing short handed late night, but he lost as few big hands, complained how the guy played and left soon after. I dont think they were even spreading O8 there.
     
  9. Mickey Crimm

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    Ali had a lot of gamble in him. He played a lot of hands in Omaha 8. The dude knew how to hustle. But he also had a propensity for blowing the money off on sucker stuff. I can see him switching to NLH when the poker boom came along. Its his kind of gambling game.
     
  10. Scotchtape

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    Where are the longtime AP's at these days such as Chuck, DannytheCap, Jali, Cheesehead Jeff, Jodi and mom, Ali, Randy, BigJim and Lois, Hippy, Waterbug, EddieGreen, and Javier?
     
  11. Mickey Crimm

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    Scotchtape, do we know each other? I know practically everyone you named here. But I haven't seen any of them for at least 15 years. I knew them all from Laughlin. I switched to Northern Nevada in 2002 and never went back to Laughlin.

    If it's the right Chuck, he made a bunch of money AP'ing then bought an old historic hotel in Vermont that he had to remodel. The venture fell though on him and he returned to AP.

    I got some reports about 4 years ago that Danny was busted and living in a storage unit in Barstow. I know he was highly talented with machines but had leaks with the horses and sports.

    The last time I seen Ali, 2002, he was based out of Riudoso, New Mexico. I got a report about 4 years ago he was living in Henderson and doing fine.

    Jodi and her Mom "Get away from here! I'll call security! These are our plays!" were a mess. I know an AP that shacked up with Jody. He came home one day, she had moved out, and all his furniture was gone.

    Jim and Lois wouldn't play anything unless it was the stone cold nuts.

    Randy had his head screwed on about as well as any AP I ever knew. I'm sure he's still doing good.

    The last time I seen Waterbug he had gone back to work cooking in an Asian restaurant.

    I knew Javier but didn't know much about him.

    Did you know Hawaiian Derek?
     
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  12. Scotchtape

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    Interesting
    Is Derek the keno expert?
    Was thinking Axel might be one of these characters mentioned
     
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    Surprised you don't know Hippy, Jeff, or Eddie
     
  14. Mickey Crimm

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    I may have known them. I just don't recall the names. It's been a long time.
     
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    I know all of them on the list, however, I am none of them. Some are still around, some I haven't seen in a long time. If you know all of them people and It seems to like you do then it's more likely than not I know you. PS. We didn't call him Hippy-----. That name came after from some of the new guys.
     
  16. Mickey Crimm

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    No, they called axel and his crew "the change boys." Derek was the fastest flush attacker in the west. He mostly worked that 18 machine bank in the Riverside. He was slower than molasses when the flush attack light wasn't on. But then he looked like the tasmanian devil when it was on. Faster than greased lightning. The ploppies would stop playing just to watch him which we all loved. He could draw heat so he wore disguises. One day he was a baldheaded chinamen in a three piece suit, the next day he was a long haired cowboy, boots, jeans, cowboy hat, the whole works. He was quite the character. No telling where he is at nowadays. Flush attack is long gone.
     
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  17. Scotchtape

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    Jesus?
     
  18. Mickey Crimm

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    Jesus Ray?
     
  19. Mickey Crimm

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    Did you guys know Psycho?
     
  20. Scotchtape

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    Was he living in his car at one time?
     

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