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Roulette 12 number bet selection

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RouletteGhost, Aug 26, 2019.

  1. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    I have a document "Nine Roulette" where the vis a vis an bet selection are explained to play a Ds system, even with a random system. No vb at all in this document.

    This is garbage, i'm not surprised that you gave up Vb mate... As if the rotor will make a 1/2 lap from 6 to 5 everytime... pfff here is what you should do: bet 16-19 28-31 27-30, this way you'll be a bit everywhere! :)
    Here we are now... Traduction: You ask people proofs that you are not able to bring either...Then you can say "See? they cannot do it" but now we can see that you cannot do it either, even if you wrote:
    <blablabla

    Finally, on Novomatic, you can clearly see that there are several balls in the mechanism... but with your skills @vb i understand now why you didn't see it. Rotor speed do not change at all, (on the model i play). And of course you can see that sometimes it blows the ball to make the outcome total random, not on every spins.
     
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  2. Bago

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    You are not clear when you write, I don't know what you mean by "even with a random system". I don't know your shit document "nine roulette" which is completely wrong since Dealer signature is an approach that takes a reference number early in the spin and compare it with the final result. Such a simplistic approach can only work on a tilted wheel, and the vis-à-vis does not occur on tilted wheel since it appears when the ball hits the opposite diamond.



    Vis-à-vis is rotor speed dependant, and as you never play Roulette in a real Casino, you don't know that you are not obliged to bet every spins, you are confounding with BlackJack little belgian sucker. And we are not betting everywhere, only two little opposite sectors because you want it or not, against a level wheel, even with the most precise stopwatch, you cannot predict if the wheel will hit your reference diamond or the opposite diamond.




    I have nothing to prove because I am not the one who claims to be able to clean the tables with VB. You guys are the one who claim it is possible therefore you have to prove it.

    No I don't see, show us a video/proof stop your garbage. The main wheel manufacturers use the RRS system. They don't cheat by blowing at the last time the ball from your winning pockets, this is a fucking lie, they would never do that for their business you are a FOOL.
     
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  3. Sharptracker

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    Well there is a random (-2.7%) system in the document he wrote to use when the DS do not work. And this is not my shit document, it has been wrote by the one you claim Vb expert, you silly frog!

    You should go there and mesure the rotor at least and just watch the ball at the end of the spins. I'm not saying they are cheating, this is just in order to make the game more random otherwise you could tell that they cheat also because they 're changing rotor speed. They would cheat if they would use magnets.
     
  4. Bago

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    Everybody would be an expert decades ago when the spins were predictable, Pierre was very knowledgeable and expert mathematician and physician but as he was smarter than you, he switches from playing to selling books to suckers like you to make money. Like you, you are making more money selling fries and burgers than playing Roulette nowadays. There is no silly jobs, you don't have to feel an inferiority complex and inventing yourself a professional roulette player life.

    I know automatic wheels, again what you are claiming is pure bullshit. Blowing the ball at the last moment to avoid your predicting sector is bullshit and it would have been noticed by all players in the Casinos complaining about this cheat. You only, and probably some losers on forums are looking for excuses to explain their losses.
    And if you are not happy with the automatic wheels, why you don't focus on classic wheels with a dealer. The more you write the more you are digging your grave.
     
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  5. Sharptracker

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    You haven't been at his home as the guy i know. He 've been there, you haven't... You are just believing in story telling (that's probably why you bought those computers and believed you could clean tables with a simple click click without understanding the game mate), you could have been a Turbo fan actually imo; just a timing question..

    I have never said that i was a professional at roulette or just quote me, but i'm sure that i know vb much more than you do.

    I have never said either i was betting money on auto wheels... And i ve never said they were blowing the ball to make the ball miss a sector, i said it was used to make the outcome more random.
     
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  6. Benas

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    I played decades ago and play now. Cardinal difference I not see...
    Talked not one time with Pierre, and done even some programs for him...
    Maybe he was smarter, but not like player. At least he not found what found me...

    About automatic wheels I cant talk - almost never played them and have for that some reasons...
     
  7. Bago

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    I know also who visited him to be taught, his first name is Andreas, and then? I don't believe in your stories, nope, especially after all the bullshit you are writing. Yep I thought I could have an edge clocking the wheels, but that was 15 years ago, you are at my level only now hoping you will clean the tables lol.


    Well you claim you are a VB expert against modern wheels, so if you brag about it, it is to let us believe you are making big money which we know it is not the case, otherwise you would have quit your McDonalds job....

    You know more than me on VB? Why did I have to explain the vis-à-vis effect you thought it was a dealer signature system lol. You thought you had to bet on all spins, so not only I believe you know shit on VB but I believe you never had a sit at a Roulette table!.

    I didn't wrote you bet on automatic wheels, but you were claiming they are tampering the ball speed at the last moment, so if it is not to make you lose by avoiding your sector, what is the goal in your mad brain?. You contradict yourself every single time, you can't be taken seriously.
     

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    Yes you found the HolyGrail we understood long time ago what you mean lol. TurboGenius had the merit to let us dream about it with his play money millions, but I feel we will wait a long time with you.
     
  9. Sharptracker

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    Hey mate, it didn't take me 15 years to know that it is useless to clock the ball on x revolution to know how much time left... That is where you've been stoped. You even didn't notice that it couldn't work (if you would have worked you would have seen that it was not possible or that this way would make your edge melt like snow under sun), you just believed it would work because of story telling, (sorry) but like a newbie with 1( years experience :) .

    Check out the document to see what i mean and show me where your expert wrote something about Vb... I knew what a vis à vis meant and i know also you're trying to explain me the reason to show you know, but at the same time you even don't know what works and what doesn't when it is about to clock... I feel embarrased for you.
     

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  10. Sharptracker

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    Oh by the way Bago, Don't run to the casino to play, that doesn't work! Lol
     
  11. RouletteGhost

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    I doubt what everyone says because it’s a negative expectation game

    -small win goal
    -use money you can afford to lose
    -limit exposure, that’s huge
    -everyone is subject to same house edge

    The people that charge you to teach you have got to be scammers. It is what it is, have to tell it like it is

    Just a bunch of forum chest pounders

    It’s all BS

    I’ll stick to my single dozen progression and rack up points for a free suite in Vegas

    You see, I ACTUALLY play when I can, unlike the Nintendo roulette players.
     
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  12. Sharptracker

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    @RouletteGhost

    Actually whatever you'd do could work during a certain time... All systems are equivalent till you use same number bet and same MM... You just got a position on the gauss curve that you cannot chose.

    Look, take the basic martingale on 10 spins and take 1024 players to fill all combinations... That system could look seductive (well it brings a lot of new people) but there is one onthe 1024 that will jump at the first try.
     
  13. Benas

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    In such talks will be good, if you will announce your aim - what you want from these talks, instead claiming who what found...:)

    I nothing do special - all is the same what do many...maybe only a few nuances. The main differences from others are how I use data. Using data is where most do not optimal solutions and finally have negative result where it can be slightly positive and have slight positive where it can be very possitive, that is all...
     
  14. Bago

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    Watch Forester's videos and Hourmouzis' videos, they are clocking the wheel and ball and they get a bigger edge than Benas'gauss curve graph, but you claim it does not work. Therefore you must admit that you and Benas are limited with your old VB lol. You are such an idiot that you don't understand why it differs from Real Casino Environment whereas I have explained it and wrote it clearly, that a 5 years old child would understand! but you Nope lol. You must have a damaged brain, I don't see another explanation.

    Your document explains the Vis-à-vis effect, if you don't see how to implement it into VB then you are completely lost. Basieux's work does not sum up to this little document, it is an insult to him. I don't want to look rude with you the belgian but I've never wrote to someone who reached such a silliness level.
     

  15. Sharptracker

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    But do you really think that they ll upload video if it is not working??? Are you that sensitive to story telling mate?

    I bet you must have tried everything to get Jafco works when you saw his video on Youtube, right?

    I'm not trying to insult Basieux in any way, i was just surprised to see you claiming he was a Vb expert. I don't think it is the case, that's the origin of my message to you. Finally i'd rather chose to bet a large quarter of the wheel than your vis à vis stuff that is only there for those who just can't identify correctly how much time left... That is why i suggested you to bet everywhere with those 3 splits mate, at least you could say "Wow i was close! :) )
     
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    What i think about your vis à vis...

    Say you think 0 will be at 12h and the scatter will be 18 pockets so you bet number 5...

    According to you if the ball misses 12 and hit 6pm the result will be 0 and that's why you bet vis à vis of 5 but you forgot that the time ball travels to 6 pm once it missed your 12h that the rotor is also moving...

    What do you think about that? That s why i think you even didn't study anything, you're just repeating what self claimed experts said.
     
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  17. Bago

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    Again, you can't know, even if you've clocked perfectly the key revolution, if the ball will hit your 12 o'clock diamond or the opposite diamond at 6 o'clock.
    Don't take my word for it and do the homework I've made 15 years ago. Find two spins where you clocked the ball at the exact same speed (i.e: 1,5sec/rev) you will see the ball hitting opposite diamonds. And check two spins where your key revolution speed differs (ie: 1,5 - 1,6), it will hit the same diamond.
    Therefore, if a precise stopwatch can't predict whereas the exact same ball speed has been recorded then you won't with your silly brain. That is clear and easy to understand, no?.
     
  18. RouletteGhost

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    Apparently you are speaking to someone I’ve ignored lol

    I love that feature in this forum
     
  19. Sharptracker

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    But i never been disagree with this... clocking x revolution to know how much time left is pure BS... Ok it will work on some sessions that you can upload to youtube to impress sheeps but in a long term play it will make your edge melt...

    This is not a good way to play vb. Is it the only thing you know in order to know how much time left? Plz let's not talk about observing rotor 's arms ... :) It doesn't work either.
     
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    The rotor is moving 180° and the opposite side is now below the reference diamond, so noone forgot the rotor continues to move, you are very slow to understand simple thing. The vis-à-vis occurs for rotors speed from 3,0-3,2sec/rev. I feel sorry for you I have to teach you Mr VB expert lol.
     
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