Baccarat 19 Percents????

Believe me. We are here to understand and not to argue. The problem is despite all you have written, the explanation is not clear. This statement you wrote:
Hold % is just so simple as, for every $100 cash to chip, how much is not change back to cash.

We are assuming all along the Baccarat drop versus Baccarat win/loss. Your hold in this case is not the hold we thought.

 

Clear as Mud. After playing 100 hands 25 of them won on Bank thus resulting in the shrinking of bankroll more than 1%.

 

Well, when the casino reported the 19%, that's the figure I know.

For a baccarat drop of $100 (the amt change from cash to chip), the bettor play over $2000 ( the handle).

the hold % as reported is over $100 not over $2000.

 

For a marty, table limit of $2000, he bet $100.200.400.800.1600, BR of $20000.

After 200 games, maybe he busted only once.. He still come ahead.

For a flat bettor. Same bankroll of $20000, each hand $2000, after 16 hands, 13 loss 3 win, which is possible. And his BR is $0.

When casino operators compute the hold in a %, they want the handle to be as much as possible.. They don't care how the bettors bet. What type of MM, what type of BS, what type of methods, system whatever.

For a long term winners, those will be highlighted. And blacklisted if the amount is too high for their comfort.

For dealers cheating, or equipment failure, or other stuff, they depends on the ratio of handles over holds.

If the baccarat drop is the cash put into the box, then it's the same things we refer to.

For $100 changed, we dun play just that $100... We win and loss.

But the casino don't care we win or loss... With the edge, for every $1000 waged, they should take $10 (~1% for baccarat)..

For our $100 BR, whatever type of systems, we might rolled $20000, or just $100 (1 bet and loss)...

The longer we continue, the higher the handle, thus the higher the hold.

So they will give comps, hotel stay, and drinks, and lucky draws, and many many others stuff to keep u happy and playing...

 

Took a while for me to finally get it but you do understand the type of hold that the original poster was referring to. Shouldn't have include the word hold. Just why people lose more than House Edge.
Thanks for clearing up.

 

Well. The hold percentage reported by casino operators are not meant for bettors like us..

Anyway, it's good that we have now reach a common understanding


Casino handle and casino hold and the hold %, is for the operators.

House edge, odds, betting system. That's for us the bettors to study.

Whether we have a system or not. As long we keep winning, that's the main point

Happy winning to all.