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Baccarat 1K to 30K Challange 2019

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Sputnik, Oct 20, 2018.

  1. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Words....lol.....beat in theory!!!!!!!!!k
     
  2. Joey Torres

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    Hi Sputnik,

    Good job. Do you regress after a win or stay on the same bet hoping for WW?

    Are you using your Sputnik March as bet selection or somethingelse?.
     
  3. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Joe Torres - if the game was easy everyone would make 30K - but I will try to explain a selection that I am still tweaking.

    Welcome to Sputnik's Head

    Sequence:

    You have heard about a choppy table where singles and series of two-strike several times in a row.
    Also probably heard about streaky tables where one colour strikes several times in a row.

    The Median Value:

    I have been measuring singles versus a series of three and find a middle value between both, the cut point median value.
    Two singles have 50% probability to happen versus a series of three in a row.
    A series of three have 50% probability to happen versus two singles in a row.

    Singles and Multiples

    A single outcome is on the isolated event of one colour hit and multiples is at least a series of two or more in a row.
    With this method and strategy series of two works as break even bets in both directions, no matter is singles or series dominate.
    Series of two are neutral.

    Enter and Exit points:

    Entering points for observation to see one state or wave of one sequence to hit once or several times in a row.
    Starts with either two singles or a series of three or higher.

    Clarification, after you see two singles you have 50% probability they will continue to strike several times in a row.
    After seeing a series of three or higher you will have 50% probability the series will continue to strike for several times in a row.
    And the same way backwards, for example, you see two singles you have 50% probability to get a series of three or higher.

    Summary:

    Now you can see variance and read the even money like an open book.

    Streaky sequence:

    P
    P
    P


    B

    P
    P

    B
    B
    B
    B

    B

    P
    P

    B
    B
    B

    Choppy sequence:

    P


    B

    P

    B

    B

    P
    P


    B

    P
    P


    B

    P

    B
    B

    Note:

    This is an excellent way to aim to win two in a row. No matter if you aim for two singles or a series of three.
    Here below you see one example using series of singles or series of series betting against five in a row.
    That is a classical system.

    You write down how many singles you get before a series of three-hit or higher.
    If you get no singles and series of three or higher to chop you write zero.

    For example 2 0 is the same as two singles and a series of three followed by a series of three.
    That is one of each event so now you would bet that one of them would repeat, for example, 2035 would be LLWW
    If you get two events at two singles or above you would bet for a 1 or 0 for example 430 would be WW
    So the triggers are SM MS SS MM = S/Singles M/Multiples = Singles are singles = Multiplies are series.

    300 RNG Results:

    2
    0
    0 W
    0 L
    1 L
    5 W
    0
    1 W
    0 L
    0 L
    2 W
    1
    2 L
    3 W
    1 W
    3
    18 W
    0 W
    2
    7 W
    1 W
    2
    1 L
    1 W
    2 W
    0
    1 W
    8 W
    0
    0 W
    1 L
    1 L
    5 W
    4
     
  4. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This is similar to what I already do but better defined. Very interesting Sputnik, thanks.

    Okay, gonna test this on some bacc shoes (I got plenty LOL). Winning 2IAR can really be key in a lot of different bet placements. Like Soxfan Surewin or Bailey +1,-1 Flat for instance.
     
  5. Sputnik

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    Let me try to make a clear as water explanation.

    2 .......... This first result is two singles that end with a series of three or higher
    0 .......... This is a series and now we get 2 0 so next we bet there will be a series
    0 WW ... Now we won two in a row and hit a series, now we have two series and will aim for two singles or more
    0 LL ....... We lose twice as we did not get two singles or more, a series of three hit.
    1 LL ........ We lose and got one single and one series of three.
    5 WW ..... We win and hit two singles in a row
    0 ............ No selection, we had 20 that become 200 and we had 00 that become 00015 and now 50 so bet series next.
    1 WW ....... We won and got one single and a series of three, the selection is 01 and next we will bet for at least two singles.
    0 LL ......... We lose and got a series of three or higher
    0 LL ......... We lose and got a series of three or higher
    2 WW ....... We win and got two singles
    1 .............. No selection and the trigger is 21, next we aim for a series if we lose we aim for singles in a zigzag mode.
    2 LL :::::::: We lose and got two singles, next we bet singles.
    3 WW ....... We win and got two at least two singles
    1 WW
    3
    18 WW
    0 WW
    2
    7 WW
    1 WW
    2
    1 LL
    1 WW
    2 WW
    0
    1 WW
    8 WW
    0
    0 WW
    1 LL
    1 LL
    5 WW
    4
     
  6. Sputnik

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    I might have done an error with the selection method, but I play it as I describe it at FortuneJack with Bitcoins.
    It was a hard session and end up in recovery mode and breakeven using the second level of the progression.

    The selection method is not complete yet as I try to decide if the ending series from each sequence of singles should be recorded or not.
    The session took 1 Hour and 10 minutes. In a real casino, you would have spent around 3 Hours.

    3
    2
    2 LL
    1 LWW +0
    1
    1 WLL
    1 WLL
    1 WLL -7
    0
    3
    2
    7 LZL
    2 LL
    1 LWW -5
    5
    0 LL
    0 WW +4
    2 WW +4
    3
    0 WW +4

    +12
    -12
    = +0
     
  7. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I made one more session, I reckon those recovery modes have to end, won +2 units and the winning target is +4 units.
    Stop after two attacks end up at even, no quick win that I hope for, did not want to risk to end up with another recovery mode LOL

    FortuneJack - La Partage Rule - Auto Wheel

    2
    5
    0 WW +2
    2
    0 LL
    1 LWW +0
    0 LL
    2 LWW +0

    Cheers
     

  8. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I don't recommend betting against five - I lost 68 units on FortuneJack and it took 2 hours and 30 minutes.
    In a real casino, it would have been 6 to 8 hours.

    The waiting for each trigger is worthless and the same for the selection.
    Will update with the other selection and see how it perform.

    Cheers
     
  9. Jimske

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    HiSputnik. Well it's not quite "clear as water" to me. Maybe you could write down the game in RedBlack or P/B as well it would be easier? Also, when you say "series" you mean repeat of 2or more IAR? Or is a series 3+ ??

    Thanks
     
  10. Jimske

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    So maybe just write out the decisions from that clear as water example. That should clarify hopefully.
     
  11. Sputnik

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    Jimske I will explain the charing and tracks that anyone can use with there own selections.

    For example, you have four singles and one series of five, we ignore a series of two as they break even when betting for two singles or a series of three or higher.

    R BB R BB R B RRRRR


    Then I write down number 4 to indicate I had at least 2 singles in a row.

    4

    Next, we can get a series of three or higher or we can get singles again.
    Let's say we got a series of three or higher with next sequence.

    RR BB R BB RRRR

    Then we write down number 1 as we got one single and then a series.

    4
    1

    This is one trigger, two singles have 50% to happen and one series has 50% probability to happen.
    41 is same as having RB or BR and if we bet three times against RB we get five in a row RBRBR
    And it would look like this

    4
    1
    2 LL
    0 LL
    3 LL

    There was no repeat.
    So each sequence that shows at least two singles is a sequence with at least two singles.
    Each sequence that shows with one single or no singles is a sequence with at least a series of three or higher.

    One more example.

    Assume I get this two sequences after each other.

    R B R BB R B RRR

    And

    B RR B RR B R B R BBBB

    Then I get two sequences with at least two singles each that has 50% probability to happen.
    Same as getting RR or BB, now someone could bet three times against five in a row.

    5
    6
    0 WW

    We won two in a row as the next sequence was a series of three or higher.

    The mistake I made was that I did not follow my calculations for STDV/Z-Score.
    It would make it a lot harder to lose three levels.

    Three series of five in a row is not uncommon if you don't limit variance into one selection only.
    I used zigzag in both directions and straight in both directions, totally four combinations.

    Cheers
     
  12. John Blerg

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    With all due respect sir I watched for numerous hours last night at the casino in fact two different casinos.

    Very large about 40 tables of baccarat each and I see people scoring vertically and horizontally and I see them doing similar to what you're talking about and the longer they play and the more they wait for their trigger, every single one of them lost money.

    ones that go in for one or two or three or five hands most of the time they win money or at least they win real quick and then they walk away. they want to stay but they know scientifically playing from the past and keep repeating what they're doing every single time they lost!

    good luck, you're on a lifelong Venture and you're not going to make a single dime all in my humble opinion and in my very reserved and lack of experience playing!

    but at least I'm up well over $50,000 now I doing the hit-and-run thing strictly off the hip. For you seeing Baccarat it's just as easy to win when others are on your losing streak or waiting till the table comes down because it will always revert back to the mean. And the mean is not nice and multi-billion-dollar casinos each property are built on players money not on their own money. And what keeps the light on is the Players attempting to turn the lights out in the casino. You'll understand my lingo if you actually play but if you want to find the repetitive system that will allow you to win Time After Time on your computer we need to send you a whole bunch of food and a whole bunch of snacks to keep you going for the many decades are going to be in front of your computer trying to find that.
     
  13. Sputnik

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    Jimske.
    One selection I had in mind is AsymBacGuy concept.
    Where one win within two attempts creates a very nice LW-Registry.

    R: LL LW W W W W W LL W W W W W W
    B: W W W W LW LL LL LW W LW W W LL LL LW W

    Cheers
     
  14. Jimske

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    This makes more sense to me now. Thanks for the work on this interesting perspective. It IS quite different than my play. Seems like betting opportunities could take quite a wait at times.

    Can't send PM here. I'll put together a shoe with your bet opportunities and send it to you on .CC to see if I got it right.
     

  15. Jimske

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    Iss this his "Baccarat Unbeatable #1" ?? I ran 105 shoes play money with it. Flat bet net. Results attached. Then a friend ran a sim and said it came out 50-50. Don't know if he did it correctly or not but . . . Graph.png
     
  16. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    I'm sorry guys, but this LLWW LW stuff and what AsymBacGuy is posting is just utter nonsense, and it's nothing more than an infection of ignorance. There's not even an ounce of common sense or math behind it. It's just retarded. You'd do just as well if you change the color of your socks and guessed at each hand.

    If you really want to learn to beat the game, quit with the absurd nonsense and read what Dr. Elliot Jacobson has written on bac. He talks about how to get a real edge, not the fools folly that everyone's chasing above.
     
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    Please send me a link to this book...
    I want to read it .

    :)
     
  18. Jimske

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    This IS Jacobsen! He trolls these sites trying to drum up sales and notoriety. Another sad troll who has now joined my unfollow list!
     
  19. John Blerg

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    Why do you think you are so authoritative here?

    You seem to be under the impression that you thoughts and knowledge are so far over "ours"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

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