Baccarat +29 071 UNIT??

PC,

I appreciate the insight into your journey of recordkeeping and your trials and errors in testing various strategies on already established shoe data. I believe that with testing various strategies on established shoe data will have very little to no impact on the live tables you will personally play on as through all the theoretical test runs and simulations will only form an idea in your head that it will work, not that it can be transferrable to actual gameplay and allow you to be successful.

I personally only test out my strategies against live shoes and do not reference any past shoes to test out my strategies. I realized that I could also do paper simulations on live shoes or on others' posted shoes while not risking any sort of capital, but that just wasn't cutting it for me as I think working through a shoe or hundreds of hands without risking anything does not have any real connection to the psychological struggle of actually putting those chips on the table.

The "various outcomes" you mentioned is actually one of the reasons I started to involve myself more and more into this game of Bac. The idea that you could make money through many different strategies is what pulled me in. But what pulled me in even more was the fact that not only one method of play could be used to be successful. I agree that any sort of bet selection, staking plan, whatever it may be can be useful for another person but it may not suit how I play or how I view the game. This is why I also hate system sellers as people should understand that all sorts of systems, bet selections, money management work to a degree, but the systems you put in place yourself at the tables will be the determining factor as to how you do in this game.

I originally responded to this thread to understand the financials and how to keep track of unit profits, losses, not try to understand the betting selection which he has ran. I know he only bets bank based on his many posts from other threads, but I would have liked some visualization, not of the bet selection but how he performs on a daily basis. I know it will not be useful to the way that I play since it probably is completely different than to how he plays, but the tracking of sessions is what I was interested in and you have given me more insight to how I can tweak my own recordkeeping. It almost keeps me a little more sane to see my sessions on charts and tables, although I know it doesn't have much impact on actually placing bets.

I am happy to say that the recording results of your own experiences did in fact help me and your previous threads gave me ideas on how I can play in a more conservative manner and helped me tweak my staking plan toward a way which fit my personality and I found that it does work for me. Nonetheless, I will keep your advices to stick to a recordkeeping, bet selection, bankroll management that works for me personally. I have tested out various methods of play, especially in my earlier days of playing the game, but I know I must stick to a generalized plan that suits me rather than looking for wildly different plans which doesn't fit how I view the game and how I like to play. I think all of us will be students of the game until we give it up or die and learning more, both from others and yourself so long as you are playing allows me to both take what others' are saying with a grain of salt while also trying, to some degree, better our game with what is being shared.

Thanks!

 

@Austin Shum
@Punkcity
So it's a personal "knack" based on experience, intuition, discipline and . . . some luck maybe. Without a bet selection with a positive EV what else?

But soxfan has a positive EV selection. Play like a macine.

Cheers

 

Exactly, touchy feeley, experienced play, worked with in selected boundaries (aka rules) the closest I can get to it being mechanical is “ what ever my criteria calls for I bet automatically, IF I’m in bet mode”

If my criteria calls for a wait, I wait automatically, if my criteria says it’s not happening at this moment i automatically exit the session. That is about as mechanical as I can get. The mechanicals to me is from past experience saying that the bet /no bet is self proven. No emotions required. Cheers

 

If you're consciously thinking about what bet to place next, don't bet at all.

 

Then you haven’t read my posts with understanding and why I get consistently 52% plus correct.

Let me correct you
You never bet UNLESS you are absolutely sure WHAT your next bet is. The reason you are NOT betting is BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WHAT TO BET NEXT.

 

Case in point soxfan will bet BANKER next , he knows exactly what he’s betting on , when and how much. The win or lose is not the overwhelming point but the WHAT he’s going to bet for.

 

Aren't you two above basically saying the same thing? You have to have a reason to bet other than gee I want to win.

The difference here is that soxfan is not guessing. You are. That's why he can play eighteen speed shoes in a matter of a few hours. His bet selection is fixed -always the same- mechanical. Requires no thinking.

Cheers

 

No thinking at all. I wonder why he went silent on us?

 

Yep, fixed selection here as well, carry it out without thinking as in the selection is predetermined and I am sure what I’m going to bet and when exactly I’m going to place the bet. All the planning is done before sitting down.

 

Not exactly the same for me. I make six bets. They never change. But sometimes I choose not to bet them. Why? Mainly because I can't be sure of a positive EV of at least 53%. So maybe I won enough units or maybe I don't like the win loss registry and I just stop.

So I can only assume that you know the advantage of each bet and only have to be concerned with variance and bankroll requirements. Same as soxfan.

Cheers

 

So long as you have a reason when to bet and when not to bet rather than doing guesswork, the overall question is if you can carry it on accurately for a long enough period of time.

What you’re describing as your bet selection doesn’t fit my style of play but addressing variance, having a sufficient bankroll and overarching plan to target losses not just within individual sessions should be a shared attribute amongst all of us.

 

Soxfan is a good cheating and lies
He only talk and no data to prove

 

It was an obvious lie. What is your starting total minus your ending total. Divide by your base unit. That should be obvious, Instead he gives the gross units. That is straight up kitchen table if he does it at all. You would have to be gullible to believe anything this guy posts.....

 

Stick with the presentment, bankruptcy and writing bad check, hey hey!!!!

 

The 29, 071 unit gross profit was captured buckin up against 7690 shoe. The nets profits is around 17, 500 unit. The very worst case scenario for down-draw was -440 unit. And yeah alot of the scared, loser player what subscribe to bulls-shits and nonsenses will squeal about the -440 unit but it's just the cost of doin business. Otherwise semi-regular clippings in the -200/-300 units range. And if you think about it you would be risking 440 units max to capture 29, 000 units profits. That's the rwarded-risk ratio of 66-1 so yer gonna capture 66 units for every unit you put at risk. I figure the investment/finance professional would kill for the rewarded risked ratio of that fashion. And this style is pure objective/mechanical and wagers on bankers only cuz only the RETARD make wager on players, simple and plain, hey hey!!!!

 

Oh yeah, the style what capture over 29, 000 units gross profit ain't the bets flat style what I'm usin current. Over the year I've come up with three, count em THREE different style what show a consistent profit buckin up against a minimum of 5000 shoe tested/real cake, and all are pure objective, mechanical with wager only on bankers! Remember there are only two type of cats, them what talks talk and them what capture profits, and I capture profit, hey hey!!!!

 

The lifes-times banks-roll for this style was 1000 unit so the worst case scenario of -440 unit never clipped for more than 50% of the total banks-roll, hey hey!!!!

 

Do ya ever bet on player hey hey? Say after 5P bet P or is that coconut?
If not then bet B after 2xP, 3 x P and 5 x P?
Happy new year to ya,

 

No, actually I think he tells half truths. It doesn't take much to see that the wins and losses on posted shoes are not actually consistent as he states. It ain't rocket science baby, hey, hey!

 

I say old chaps I pony up and take the picture of my notebook last page so you can decipher my chicken scratchings and see the that and this of the style, hey hey.