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Roulette 38 people go into a casino...

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Jul 20, 2015.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's a shame this thread went quiet - considering the info presented.
    After thinking about it, refer to a post I made in this thread about the best way to play - in my reply to Rona.
    Then travel to the Common Sense system thread.
    And from above....
    If not "luck" - how could 1 player flat bet $100.00 per spin for 6,000 spins and be up $145,600.00 ?
    (grins)
    It's not hard, it's common sense.
    There's really only one way to win against roulette - and that is to bet on the winning numbers and avoid the ones that don't show up - that means you have to choose your bet selection based on what is happening - and have the knowledge that 38 numbers will not show up in 38 spins, there are always repeaters (always).
    There is no negative progression required, positive progression is a must.

    There is no magical powers that the 13 people at the beginning of this post had - yet they flat bet only and walked out with a Very nice win overall. (as compared to the others). So why did they win and the others didn't. (it's not luck)
     
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  2. mr j

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    The "best" way to play (and stay along these lines) is to play every number in a dozen
    (not the whole table - since every spin you will win but lose also)...
    So play all 12, if a number in the dozen shows - add a chip to that number and remove
    any of the other bets that are at 1 unit and have not shown up yet.
    This way, almost every time a number shows in the dozen - you win, and "any" repeat is
    also a win of 2 units. Etc.


    TURBO >> So lets say I'll play 1-12, one chip per. When are you done with the session? So there would never be 3 units on a number? You start the game....four spins into it, number is 7. Two chips now on 7, one chip on the other 11?

    Five spins later, the 7 hits again. You are now done betting on the other 11 because they still have one chip?

    Ken
     
  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No, for that idea you would increase 1 unit on the winning number, and remove any 1 of the other numbers that hadn't shown yet. It's not perfect - at some point you'll remove a number that will show up and won't be covered - however - the wins that you do get will be covered since you have a chip on them to begin with, any repeat therefore is also a win - and any number that decides to show above expected (or for example, showing up 10 times in 100 spins or 'etc') will all be wins as well since you don't remove a winning location.
    As you play on you'll see which ones to stay on and which ones not to.. increasing the bets only on a win, not a negative progression that kills every system.

    In the original post in the thread - of the 38 people, 13 of them all won over a very large amount of spins by just flat betting on a single number... and if it was "luck" that they just happened to choose the right number to play - in reality you can 'narrow down' what those numbers are and play them. (grins).
    I think most people missed that point in the post. There's no luck here - there's only the so-called fallacy of using past spins as data on where to play future spins.
     
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  4. mr j

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    Hmm, got it. Thanks bud.

    Ken
     
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    Hey Turbo, you are so genius and your mathematics is too strong I guess. The calculations you made for 28 members is probably right I guess. Still, investing money before calculating maths is of no sense.
     
  6. TurboGenius

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    I have no idea what your comment means.
     
  7. Spider

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    Hi Turbo. Your play is in line with my ways of thinking. Do you play in cycles as a stop loss?
     

  8. TurboGenius

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    Thread bump for relevancy.

    So if we've moved past the issues of repeaters being the way to win - and the common sense
    that tells us that numbers that show make profit and sleepers that are never bet on lose us nothing...
    Perhaps the next steps for people to focus on is how to make sure that you are one of those 13 people
    who all won flat betting and avoid being one of the other 25 people...
    You would want to be on as many of those (top 13) numbers as the game goes on - at the end you would want to at least be on a few of them. Since we can't predict the future or future independent spins, it's important for the player to find a way to maximize the chances that they are playing as many of those top 13 as possible.
    There is a way to do this - it takes creative bet selection and math, both of which anyone is capable
    of doing.
    Maybe think of it like a horse race ? 38 lanes of horses - at the end of the race there's going to be a winner (even though each horse runs randomly towards the finish line). Would you put your money on the horse that was in the lead 1/2 way around the track ? Maybe 4 or 5 of the horses in the lead ? Maybe 10 ? Other horses will pass them though won't they - it's random... maybe the horse out front will drop to last ?
    But guess what ? It's roulette - not horse racing. You can change your bet/horse at any time !
    I leave you with that thought. Enjoy.
     
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    Turbo >> I love your analogies!

    Ken
     
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    Turbo,

    I didn't know that you were into visual ballistics. You just crudely described it above.
     
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    Worth reading this ...
     
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    :pompus: :)
     
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    That's Reading Randomness. "Bet big when you are doing good, bet small when your aren't."
     
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    If not in your favor then do not bet at all.
     
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    So why is it that if you take 2 parts water vs 2 parts shit and slap them together and you still get shit?????????????????
     
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    Well I would put a progression on the group that's coming back for round 2 :happy:
     
  18. Ttake1234

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    Hi
    Turbo
    I have few doubt and want some clarification on the above system you mentioned

    1) you play all the 12 number from dozen

    2 ) after any number shows up from the selected dozen you add 1 unit to that number and remaining 11 number should be removed?
    ( Why don't we play only after number from selected dozen shows up )

    3 ) can this be use for other selection such as columns or HR/ HB / LR / L B

    4 ) what is bankroll/ stop loss /stop profit

    5 ) what is maximum number to play from the dozen
     
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    It's interesting how Turbo leaves subtle but in plain black and white in your face clues that support his mantras over the years. In this case "math beats a math game" Gotta love it!
     
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    If only the clues were that easy to see @Nimo
     

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