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Baccarat 4,5,6,7 cards

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Shaun Beket, Jan 18, 2018.

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  1. Shaun Beket

    Shaun Beket New Member

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    Hi everyone

    I have worked out my own way to play. It's basically counting cards even tho it doesn't work counting cards in Baccarat but some how this is working for me.

    The only cards you need to be concerned about is 4, 5, 6, and 7

    4 = -4
    5 = +1
    6 = +2
    7 + +1

    Minus you bet on Banker and Plus you bet on Player. This will not work with flat betting. You will have to use the Martingale. Lose then double and win go back to starting bet.

    Save way of playing
    1 unit
    2 units
    4 units
    8 units
    16 Units
    32 units
    64 units
    128 units

    Win one every hand
    1 unit
    3 units
    7 units
    15 units
    31 units
    63 units
    127 units
    255 units

    Anything above the units that I have laid out means the system is not working and you should not use it.

    Test it out with play money before you use it with real money. You don't have to give me your ideas as I'm happy with mine and don't want to change anything. If it works for you then let me know. I would be happy if I helped just one person.

    And yes, I do still have a day job as I cannot take the chance to play Baccarat for a living with a wife and kid. However at the moment we live comfy with the money that I win. (Just saying for the haters out there :))
     
  2. Berichman

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    Hi, Shaun
    So far, How many consecutive loss in row you have ?
     
  3. Shaun Beket

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    Hi Berichman,

    So far the most I have is 7 in a row and it happens once every 5 to 8 shoes where I have to place the big one. If you do not have the money to play either one of my betting layouts then you could count every shoe until you get to the point where you would have lost 7 times in a row if you played every hand and then place your bet. If you win then everything starts again till you would have lost another 7 times in a row. When that happens then you place your previous bet plus the winnings of the previous win. You do this for 8 times then you will have what you need to play every single hand.

    Yes it will take about 20 to 30 shoes but if you put it in perspective you will win a lot of money with only the minimum you have placed in the beginning. Not everyone has the patience for it but if you can stick to the game play then you will not be disappointed. And lets say you do lose then you only lose your beginning bet.

    Low risk vs time and patience
     
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    Hi Shaun,
    How do you manage the bankers commission?
     
  5. Shaun Beket

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    Hi Goez, in my country which is South Africa we do not pay commission on Banker but we only win half money when Banker wins with a 6 so that question I cannot answer. But I will tell you that it hurts when I bet big and win with 6 on Banker. Luckily that doesn't happen to often and mostly with the 1ste 4 bets.
     
  6. Berichman

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    Must start game in the beginning of shoe?

    Must count Tie hand?

    After any hand without 4,5,6,7 cards, should
    count plus minus?
     
  7. Berichman

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    If I want bet ever hands, can I bet after a hand without 4,5,6,7 cards?

    How many do you have consecutive WIN in row until now ?

    I'm sorry so many questions :(:(:(
     

  8. Berichman

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    If I want bet ever hands, can I bet after a hand without 4,5,6,7 cards?

    How many do you have consecutive WIN in row until now ?

    I'm sorry so many questions :(:(:(
     
  9. Shaun Beket

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    Hi Berichman,

    Please feel free to ask as much questions as you like. We are all trying to make money out of ideas and if we find one that works then great.

    Yes you will have to start in the beginning of every shoe when the 1st cards comes out. If you don't then you will not know the "true count" and that could influence your betting.

    If you don't want to bet every hand then the safest option will be to decide how much you want to risk. Then play according to that. I'll try and lay it out for you.

    Main | Units Needed
    | 1 | 3 | 7 | 15 | 31 | 63 | 127 | 255
    1 | X | X | X | X | X | X | X | 1
    3 | X | X | X | X | X | X | 1 | 3
    7 | X | X | X | X | X | 1 | 3 | 7
    15 | X | X | X | X | 1 | 3 | 7 | 15
    31 | X | X | X | 1 | 3 | 7 | 15 | 31
    63 | X | X | 1 | 3 | 7 | 15 | 31 | 63
    127 | X | 1 | 3 | 7 | 15 | 31 | 63 | 127
    255 | 1 | 3 | 7 | 15 | 31 | 63 | 127 | 255

    The X indicates bets not placed. Lets take 15 units for an example. If you only have 15 units to play with then you will have to wait till you would have lost 4 in a row if you where playing everything and then start betting on the 5th hand.

    The record wins for me in a row is 11 but that doesn't happen a lot.

    Yes you must count the Tie hands as well. If the count goes to 0 then you need to place the bet where the count was before the 0. minus to 0 is Banker and plus to 0 is Player.

    if there is no 4, 5, 6 or 7 cards in a hand then the count stay the same as the previous count.
     
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  10. Berichman

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    Thanks a lot for your kindness explanation.

    y, I tested this and got 8consecutive loss in row...
     
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    Well then it's back to the drawing board. I'm still winning with it so will see what happens
     
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    I know you don't want any advise and your advice is as real as it gets I can make your same method 5x better
     
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    It's not that I do not want any advise and we are here to help each other so go ahead and show me what you have
     
  14. Noman ahmad

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    Ok so this strategy would only really work online live casino playing baccarat, this is because it eliminates the dragon and panda, now although I know that these are pretty payouts, these can really hurt if your just sticking to a simple strategy, to yield a bare minimum. So I personally think the best bankroll to have is roughly 5000.00 although you will never bet near as much.

    So now we all know that doubling your previous bet is the best strategy to get your money back and also a win back on top, but what can realllt hurt is when you keep on getting ur side wrong For example of you betting player and there have been 8 bankers and your still betting banker, you will be cleaned right out. So theory is to dodge a train and most likely win

    I play at 888casino where they have (3) 2$ Minimum tables and 5 other tables with other minimum bets which I avoid .

    So playing only on three tables at the same time I'm really never playing every hand and just guessing because that will hurt in the long run.

    So here is how to bet.

    NO MATTER WHAT, DO NOT BET UNTILL THERE IS A TRAIN RUNNING OF AT LEAST 6 B OR P. That's your cue to yeild 1, 5, or 20$

    So let's use player train as an example and now you are going to only bet banker starting after 6 consecutive player wins, meaning 7th time you are in betting banker

    NOW ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THIS Is LIKE A 95% CHANCE OF WINNING, because it's still possible to lose but reduced risk and I'll suggest where to accept the loss of this happens.

    HERES HOW

    * only for your 1st bet and I mean bet #7 you have to bet both side and you can with out restrictions. This is because it's a 2 dollar minimum and can just bet 1 dollars so this justifies.

    Now let's say still player keeps winning. I want to show you how to dodge a long train and most likely win remember.

    BR 5000.00
    If win If lost
    7. P-4$ B-5$ W=1$ L=1$

    8. B-2$ W=1$ L=3$

    9. B-4$ W=1$ L=7$

    10. B-8$ W=1$ L=15$

    SMALL JUMP.

    11. B-20$ W=5$ L=35$

    12. B-40$ W=5$ L=75$

    13. B-80$ W=5$ L=155$

    SMALL JUMP.

    14. B-175$ W=20 L=330$

    15. B-350$. W=20 L=680$

    Maximum loss 680

    # 15 should alsways be your last bet doubling up to get you money back and try to get back on top.

    Fist of all 98% of the time you will win with in the fist 4 hand what I have experienced after long reading and research and actual play.
    It's really difficult for a long train to come by and this is the best way to dodge and win now let's say for some miracle reason the train went on past 15 streak

    I've been doing this for 4 months now and the worst train I have dodged was a 14 streak.
    I play everyday max 2 he session and I set a timer once timer is up I'm done

    PLEASE DONT CHASE YOUR LOSS.

    You should accept a loss because wow that's 16 In a row player and should focus on recovering a small amount like start betting only 100 in that same streak and 99.9 percent you will recover some.

    The key against casinos is patience and discipline, casino is a shark and we are nothing so I would rather win 1-20 most likely than just play every hand and guess and lose or win 100 or 1000,s

    Please do your research and gamble to most likely possibly Win using strategy.

    Trust me lost of chances come by in 2 hour session don't play longer and add risk.

    Remember you are watching only and waiting no matter what until you see opportunity.

    Tell me what you think guys and good luck!!
     


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