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TurboGenius 9 horses

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Naughty but nice, Feb 28, 2023.

  1. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Just for reference, all I'm doing is the horse race analogy strategy / tasking random.
    I described how it's done already elsewhere.

    The variations are the number of horses and the number of laps in the race.
    For the beginning rounds I used 7 horses and 4 laps - there were ups and down with the end result being the climbing
    chart flat betting. I stopped on a win regardless of profit or loss.
    The past 15/16 games I adjusted to 9 horses for 4 laps and as can be seen they have all been wins.
    I also allowed for 8 laps if required for a recovery after a win if still negative, but still flat betting.

    The collection of data helps to find the optimal number of horses and the optimal number of laps.
    This concept is also being reviewed by people more qualified than I am and will post in my section
    when there's more info to share.
    Have a nice day.

    Any update coming.
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    upload_2023-2-28_13-1-0.png These 105 spins won 10% of the 3'000.
    How would top 3 or even top 9 perform?
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps Marc0s could show RX.
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    If Top 3 has 4 matches. T9 has 6 matches from 10 positions; T9 needs to match better. Will next 10 spins have R1 give matches for R2 or even R3 started.
     
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    I would drop 1x’s 11-23-12-9. You have 15 0x and 13 1x against you. Will the 9 R1 fill R2 or R3 fast enough?
     
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    Yes, a good stream, R2 filling nice. The repeat average for 40 spins is 1-3-5-7=16. Now 60 spins are usually 30/30. 20 spins to get 6 of the remaining non-hit. If, the non-hit average to hit in 3 spins, 6*3=18 spins. 2 spins would be left. So, if the 6 actually hit to their average, then 6*2=12 repeats. 12 repeats plus the already 16 would have repeats at 28 at 58 spins. Now this so called random; will R2-R3 and even R4 fill.
     
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    Well 53 spins only 2 non-hits needed for the 30. Score is 28/25. How will random distribute these 7 spins? More matching of top 9 that top 3 are part of. I’d drop R1, 27-35 and use R2.
     
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    upload_2023-2-28_13-12-21.png
    Non-hits were fast. 32/28
     

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    Now drop R2, 29-14 and bet R3. Look at matches T9, 21 from 29. Would you say T3 has slowed?
     
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    Remember won 360 zigzagging for these 105 spins. The blue diagonal line shows how each lap is performing to the 37, 1x. Why does getting to R10 Take so long? If we say the 7 Top 3; times 3 for the possible 9 matches of T9, then Top 9 should be 21. Now if we had more spins we would probably see numbers outside top9 performing better, positions 10-37. Slowing the repeats for T3 & T9. It is not saying R6-R7 might not start filling.
     
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    Over to the experts, that don't include the DSAA
     
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    Keep in mind that the greater number of horses used, the more the results change.
    Also the number of laps greatly changes the results.
    Remember that 2/3 of the total number of horses will typically finish better or at expected.
    So 9 horses - 6 finishers.
    Cheers
     
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    There may be 9 horses, but the casino only pays as if there's 7 horses.
     
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    R2 won't work. Try using more color and exclamation points in your graphs. That should do it.
     
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    That guy really did got into your head, didn't it?
     
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    He's stuck on the KFC and Law of the Third Nonsense. For years he's tried to get something to work, but he can't comprehend why nothing will work for him.
     
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    DSAA, may we have a word in private?
    Best you pm on rouletteforum as TRD ..
     
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    I'm not on rouletteforum. You can PM me here though.
     
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