TurboGenius 9 horses

What you don’t show is where the 9, R1 completed. #23, spin 35; there was 24 of the starting 37 showing, red. At 40 spins repeats are slow; 13 not the 16. There are 7 spins to get to 60. Are they going to be all repeats? The 31st non-hit has an average to hit of 5 spins. It has taken on RNG a maximum 30 spins to hit.
If top 3 can have max 3 matches; then top 9 should get 9 matches. Top 3 has 5; if we say 5*3=15. Then top 3 is better than top 9. If the 3 remaining R2 are matches for top 9, then it will have 16 matches, 1 more than the 15. But would it be in profit?

 

Thank you for taking the time to work on a game of mine.
Unfortunately this was an unsaved test, so I don't have the next spins.
And I still don't understand all your concepts. So I can't answer the question whether it would make a profit.
In the example I posted I tried to just explore the top 9 and R1 when they completed.

 

Ron

Winkel’s picture shows everything.

The black line is the start. All non-hits want to get to zero.

The pink line is the hit once. These 2 must cross at some point.

The rest are the hit more than once. R1-R2 and so on.

 

The data belongs to Luck of the Irish.

This is a test I did in November. I tested over 1 million single zero RNG spins and got this:

2 3210
3 6251
4 9017
5 10906
6 12398
7 12852
8 12454
9 11478
10 10007

23 29
24 16
25 5
26 3
27 0
28 0
29 0
30 0
31 0
32 0
33 0
34 0
35 0
36 0

The most unique numbers in a row was 25 (The 26 means it hit on the 26th spin, so 25 unique numbers in a row) and this happened only 3 times.



So, 7 unique or hit once, 8 is repeat. 7 unique is the biggest occurrence and then repeat.

Or bet the 1st 8 unique, someone’s magic number as next spin is repeat.

You can see the further it can go before repeat. But what occurrence shows most.

Now, it would seem better to use 8 as if spin 9 is repeat breakeven.

We can see from Dr Sir anyone-anyone’s 10’330 live spins repeats hit over 40 spins 1-3-5-7.

Spins 1-10 usually gives 1 repeat.

Like Winkel’s graph shows it could be 19-18 way too many 1x’s. But, what does luck of the Irish data show; possibly could have 25 unique. Not often; so, does it ever give 37 unique?

Often on 9 horses we can see the 9, 1x came on spin 9. The 9, R1’s usually around the 36th spin mark. The other lap R can also hit in another 36 spins roughly.

Matches of top 9.

How many R1 are matches of the 9, 1x’s? Often, it’s only 5; can be as low as 3 matches.

If we have 9, 1x in 9 spins and another 27 spins we could have the 9, R1. How do you stake/bet this.

 

The further we get in laps, the better it seems for matches. But you must sit through so many spins.

You are better of betting for red or black.

The best way is if you could, is to do what the Gizmo is trying to show. (guess).

Now in fairness; like everything you must practice and practice even more.

But if you look at the table/mat you can use this to get your bets. Not a lot of study to use the mat.

 

Some wonder if 9 horses are too many?

You need to watch the score of T3 against T9.

I will say it again.

If you can get 3 matches on the laps, why can you not get 9 matches on the lap.

Now, just remember if you multiply T3 by 3; you will see how fast or slow T3 is against T9.

If T3 is slow at start, how long before it catches up or betters than T9.


Is betting only 3 horses better in the long run?

 

You see match 3 and even got match 9.
The reason T3 is behind is because of 1st 2 laps.

If we look at the matches from here.
Times T3 by 3 and what are the score of the matches. 3-2-2-3-2-1=13*3=39. 8-8-7-4-2-1=30
Would T3 be better?

 

Okay thought good place for a picture.

LOTT. Look at T3

Now look at next picture. 30 non-hits usually hit by 60th spin. They just sped up. You'll see.



Now, +323 is good enough. Check the matches. T9 and even a floating F9 just not matching fast enough.

 

Top 3 ?

 

Nimo; refined gold.

This is a rare game. 20 spins, 7 repeats; +3. At spin 16, 6 repeats; +2 for repeats already. +2 often happens, but +3 very rare. Why keep betting? Yes spin 20 is +3.

Now add to the bet those numbers that came where no betting. 2 paid spins and Denzie’s +100.

So, 9 repeats; is the average for 30 spins. To be +3 @ 30 spins needs 12 repeats. Of the next 5 spins; will there be 4 repeats.

Up to the 19th non-hit they have an average of 2 spins.

Now 9, R1 can be completed in 33spins. I’ve seen the 9, R1 complete in 30 spins and even take 40 spins.




What a surprise, not.

There is so much more, but you people go study.

 

Doesn't always start like this. But job done, Denzies +100

 

As some get touchy about cluttering their thread, here is the continuation of post in rheti dialogue.

60 spins ends 30/30.

T9 has 3 times T3 matches.

 

Its his 100 from 100 br? If not then its not the same so not sure what's the point mentioning it.

Would you say 30/30 at spin 60 mostly means top 3/6 or 9 bringing the wins?

 

Thank you hope you have a good new year

 

Thanks and all the best in 2024.
Does being behind 1.3.5.7.30 influences your staking?
And yes in general I see better results if starting from 4x (your R3).

 

Reply 74. Live spins 9,1x took 11 spins
9,R1 took 34 spins
9,R2 took 66 spins
Reply 76, Saint Steves mighty MPR.
9,1x took 10 spins
9,R1 took 37 spins
9,R2 took 55 spins
Study or observe your games and see how many spins 9 numbers or horses take.
You could use just 4 or Turbos 3.
Everyones mentioning ND and Gizmo; well what about the Turbo.
Has Gary G heard from him?
The DSSA was not seen for ages and like a bad smell he turns up.

 

Go to reply 52
9-29-55 spins

 

10 spins no repeat. Repeat are slow -1 to the average. 20 spins we've had 5 repeats. Repeats are +1, sped up. But look, 30 spins and repeats are -2 to the average. 40 spins still -2 to the average. So, 9 spins had 9, 1x. 39 spins have 9, R1. Now drop the 1x's 33-21-29-36. The #25 that came from outside the 9,1x and is one of the 9, R1 hits. Next spin #27 marked blue. Now there is no magic, crystal ball time machine or whatever. Only reason to bet #27 is its part of 9, R1. So, how many spins will it take to get 9, R2? 55 or 66 spins.

So, 60 spins are usually 30 repeats. There are 15 for 41 spins. 15 of the next 19 spins need to be repeats and hopefully R2 & R3 get hits, why not R5 starts.

Non-hits 27 up to 30 average to hit in 4 spins. So, 4 *4=16 they could account for 16 of the 19 spins.