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Baccarat A Bottom Line

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Jan 27, 2024.

  1. mansi19896

    mansi19896 Active Member

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    im not sure man, i been testing it and after 360 shoes its +365 units, but virtually tracking results are different then playing in reality where you place bets only on 2-3 tables at a time
     
  2. SPIKE

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    What's his method and I'll tell you whether it works or not.
     
  3. mansi19896

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    i have same much info available then you. I checked picture where he said how he would had done and i tried experimenting how did he get those results. Using banker at certain times. Only banker rinse and repeat
     
  4. Jimske

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    [QUOTE="mansi19896, post: 169355, member: 4520"but virtually tracking results are different then playing in reality where you place bets only on 2-3 tables at a time[/QUOTE]Nonsense. The cards have no memory. A pattern is a pattern. If you're looking for and betting the same pattern over and over it doesn't matter whether it's virtual or whether you're looking at live shoes.
     
  5. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Before you play for real cake do sufficient testings to prove to yerself that you have an actual winnings style. Test for a minimum of 1000 shoe and you'll know what yer workin with. And if you start with the small bankroll, with a winnings bets flat style you can use the Kelly style to maximize profit and increase yer banks-roll, hey hey.
     
  6. mansi19896

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    Nonsense. The cards have no memory. A pattern is a pattern. If you're looking for and betting the same pattern over and over it doesn't matter whether it's virtual or whether you're looking at live shoes.[/QUOTE]

    i thought that too at the beginning. But once i used 6 step progression pattern where 15 shoes were front of me. I got total around +5000 units.
    12345 i kept counting wins with 3 seconds, because all results were available and by the time i reached 15 table it always got ahead even if i witnessed some losses between.
    But do you know what happened when i started to sit still slow motion at 1-2 table and play. i started to see losses more frequently and ratio went opposite. I felt that all these weeks of counting wins so easily were all meaningless and didn`t matter at all, because in reality you cannot get 5 units with 5 seconds. It takes average maybe one in 4 minute and like that in some ways it has some impact that changes the outcomes. I know it doesnt make sense, but thats how i felt. The system itself is still in profit, but i got so huge drawdown that i stopped tracking it
     
  7. mansi19896

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    does it mean if after 1000 shoes i get similar stats like your statements and i happen to loose my bankroll suddenly you return me these 40 bucks ? Hopefully it never happens. If i get ahead i can continue with casinos own money
     

  8. mansi19896

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    about progression do you use that in every shoe and how many times average or that trigger happen only occasionally
     
  9. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No, he's a delusional bullshiter.
     
  10. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    More bullshit. Kelly only works if you have a KNOWN advantage percentage wise. In a negative expectation game kelly says don't bet. But even if you had a small edge like one percent , kelly wouldn't be much help. Because you need a pretty huge bankroll to change your bet size. With a small bank row , you'll be basically just betting table minimum , most of the time.

    You'd be better off using a conservative progression. Chingy, and cps10 has a good one, too.
     
  11. mansi19896

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    mathematical speaking way banker actually do have the edge and its a fact no one can overturn
     
  12. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Simp0le and plain with that style ya capture 1 units profits on 1p, two units profits on 2p, three unit profits on 3p, 4 unit profits on 4p and ya get clipped for -26 unit on all streak of 5p or more, hey hey.
     
  13. mansi19896

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    you bet on player instead? this is what p means ?
    i knew betting sequence, but how many units per shoe average you try to win to achieve these results
     
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    iv seen very often loss if trying in every opportunity. im trying test after loosing shoe to see how it performs
     

  15. Sputnik

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    My opinion is to move on and forget all about it - just a waste of time trying to guess what others do when they don't share complete solutions.
    Better to become effective and start earning money each month and not chase what others claim they do with success without mentioning step-by-step instructions.

    You need to step up in the world of gambling and understand when you search and try to guess what others do there is existing syndicates in casino games and in sports betting that win serious money - why not be part of that - or create your money machine syndicate and start become a winner and not a loser.

    The problem is that no one shows you where the money is - because then it would become viral.
    So you need to be clever and start to ask yourself - am I using my time effectively on this material or topic and will it lead me to making a steady income - the answer is no - but there is a solution for everything - you just need to mentally change focus on things that matters.

    That is my advice and opinion based on my own experience.

    Cheers
     
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  16. mansi19896

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    yes its true you say. You have done great job with your posts in the past, but i have my own reasons. Problem in life is if someone ask something, they think their stupid or not conscious lol.
    If you mean syndicates by group of people. They also dont share any winnings in sport or gambling. You have to figure things out yourself. Where you can possibly even find these people. Only ones are one who sell stuff and following tipsters is never good idea. Unless you have some inside info. These peoples can be useful to have enough edge
    And nobody knows am i loosing or winning actually. But its all irrelevant here.
     
  17. mansi19896

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    how many progression losses the bankroll should cover maximum according to your statistics
     
  18. soxfan

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    The absolute worst case down-draws scenario for this style was -440 unit so a thousands units bank-roll should be more than sufficient, hey hey.
     
  19. mansi19896

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    thanks man. You are like this crazy professor in back from the future movie :bear:
     
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    Some cats talk talks and some cats capture profits, and I capture profits, simple and plain, hey hey.
     

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