Roulette A Challenge 2 - for Turbo M

I think this needs to move on to the next stage. The questioning and/or interest may have died off as it did at RF. But maybe stage 3 will make things interesting. Though I probably know whats coming, it is all still interesting to others to see the analysis and questions play out.

 

Turbo "Hitchcock" Genius : the master of suspense.

 

Unfortunately the "suspense" part is missing.

 

For the next installment - the subject will be repeaters and how playing these changes the math of the game (finally, right ? Hmm).
The "one spin is all that matters" crowd may been to read it a few times and let it sink in. Or those who think a group of spins is no different in math than a single spin multiplied over and over.

(I'm going to use 38 numbers - 00 wheel but it's the same either way)
The "single spin" crowd will rightfully agree that from the start - you have 38 possible numbers that can show. You are paid 35:1 on any win.. therefore the house edge is there from the start... on every individual spin.

So I'd like to explain this so everyone will get it - and I'm going to focus on "possible winning numbers" vs "payout".
So - from spin number 1 - a player not using any repeater method is going to face the fact that there are 38 possible winning numbers (dammit, can't I shorten that to PWN or something like they do now-a-days) and the payout is 35:1.
The house has the edge.

I'll call this player 1 and as spins go by - this is what he's up against....


So yes - as we can see.. each spin this player faces exactly what the "one spin is all that matters" people say - there are always 38 possible winning numbers and there are 38 numbers total - the house pays 35:1.
This is the mental trap these people are stuck in.

Now player #2 is going to play the same spins - but he's going to begin betting once a number shows.
That means his "possible winning numbers" list won't be 38 every spin anymore, because a number that hasn't shown yet can't possibly be played according to the rules.



This still leaves a problem - but is certainly better. The first win coming at spin 16 was the main problem, however
this player still ends the session of 35 spins at -156 units.

Now, the third player - who's going to bet for a repeat - but only once a number appears twice. So he's playing for the 3rd show of a number.



So before I go further - I'll let this sink in.
I'll add a few things though, as I've said to people in PMs and Emails -
A number can't appear 2 times unless it has appeared once.
A number can't appear 3 times unless it has appeared twice.
A number can't appear 4 times unless it has appeared three times.
If someone wants to complain that a number showing 3 times in a cycle of 38 spins isn't common.....
Well complain away and I will post what actually happens in random and how predictable it is.
Reminder to see the "hundreds" column in the Geiger counter video as each random outcome is complied.

 

I know this is part 3, but I can't help thinking we're about to get dragged back to part 2.5.

 

I can see that I made a mistake on the third chart (tired).
Will fix, although I can't edit it in place - will post below

 

The only difference being that in the original post I started betting on spin 12 when I would have actually begun after the second repeat of #11 at spin 16

 

All is good Turbo. We get the idea.

 

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"A number can't appear 2 times unless it has appeared once.
A number can't appear 3 times unless it has appeared twice.
A number can't appear 4 times unless it has appeared three times."
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Turbo; all that is true and everyone knows that, I guess! BUT problem is in details.

Player #3, if he will play longer, then his play will become similar as Player #2, and if he will still continue play, then his play will became same as Player #1, because in longer run all numbers will appear 2x or more!!!

So the main question is: WHEN stop play numbers that appeared 2x, and then when they appeared 3x,... and WHEN drop out a hot number, after how many spins it has not appeared???

 

Player #1

placed: 1330 units
returned: 1260 units
net:- 70 units
ROI: 94,74%
house edge: 5,26%

Player #2

placed: 516 units
returned: 360 units
net:- 156 units
ROI: 69,77%
house edge: 30,23%

Player #3

placed: 79 units
returned: 36 units
net:- 43 units
ROI: 45,57%
house edge: 54,43%


Fact is that Player #1 cannot never win.
Question is only when can win Players #2 and #3 ??

 

If all you feel is "teased" - given the information laid out in this thread and others - you deserve the swollen balls and the wheelbarrow to carry them.

 

Lmao! I think TM has given up on it anyway. Shame though, I was enjoying the critique.

 

Part 3 ........can we move on now ?

 

I was teasing and to be honest more at the people who are waiting for a set of step by step instructions! I said before i owe you and to a lesser extent some others for the direction ive gone in with regards my gambling. Like Fossell i was enjoying following it!
Anyhow always enjoy your thoughts on roulette so hope you dont stop posting altogether.
Have all the naysayers gone?

 

The naysayers I'm told sir anyone has gone into hiding.my local casino has put a sign up saying no system players allowed,the mafia are hunting T.G...........this thread will disappear.......lol

 

It's funny you say that though Johndexter. I used to play at a casino where the manager hated system players and I think he had a particular dislike for me because I always had my cards and pens on the table. Anyway, one day he came over and I saw the grimace on his face looking towards me and I heard him say 'Turbo's systems'. Pretty funny really. Maybe he had tried a few himself without much luck.

 

I remember T.G.he said that there was a satellite over his house, 24/7 ........his real names will smith....

 

O and Eugene,....theres a guy posts as mr.j......hes Daniel Negreau .

 

And who are you? FBI agent?!