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Baccarat A COUPLA FER INSTANCE

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Feb 17, 2021.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sox fan has a personal MO playing the game and that`s the way it is but that does not make him the Godfather of the game .


    The game itself has the FINAL word.
     
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  2. Myrtlejones

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    HEY HEY ok cat please give us some of the play menu, TRIGGERS BBPP how are you betting, some kind of value
    HEY HEY
     
  3. Myrtlejones

    Myrtlejones Active Member

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    HEY if you are trying to win 1 unit per shoe you would be better off donating your sperm so keep pulling it you will be further ahead
     
  4. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sox fan ! Stick with your MO. The floor is yours .
     
  5. soxfan

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    Exactly, my stop was based on expenditure of time in that I would play six shoe, no more, no less, no matter how well or badly I did for that particular session. Why cats wanna dispute me on things what ain't in disputes, hey hey?
     
  6. soxfan

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    Having a stop based on number of shoe played makes snesne and eliminates greed and fear. Having a stop based on units won/loss is silly, and very counter-productive. I'll give some more example from live baccarats play to show the nonsenses and absolute foolishness. Cats usin stop win/loss nonsense is one reason why casino make so much profits from baccarats offerings, hey hey.
     
  7. soxfan

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    What's wrong with capturing one units profits betting flat, hey hey?
     

  8. Myrtlejones

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    Mr soxfan please tell or show or state what or how or when you are betting and why, just a hint of how you are betting what you are betting and why, something anything, SIX SHOES, you must have a betting Probability or basics to where you are going.
     
  9. Nathan Detroit

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    The question of a system vulture .
     
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  10. soxfan

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    Bwwwwwaaahhhhhhh, the only trigger what interests me is the blasted trigger on y ar-15, hey hey.
     
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  11. Punkcity

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    How about an update on your thread of I own it. You seem to have hit a snag there, brewers drupe ?
    You have a winning way what’s it to you what any one else does? Or are you struggling and can’t bare to see anyone do something you can’t do. There you go prove your way on your thread I’m sure you will have a following.
     
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  12. Punkcity

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    Good question craps re why not employ people to do baccarat, great ideas but just too hard to police when one struggle with one’s self , imagine the effort for five other people. They will use you chips for there own use , pocket and not bet hoping that that selection lost if it wins they claim oops I thought you mention bank as they. Sorry. My bad.
    No been there done that. Seen to many make that mistake and in the end of the day the employees just have to say no these are my chips. Etc.
    Better to run your own game. Cheers
     
  13. Lungyeh

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    I mentioned I have explored this avenue before. I asked a few friends to together agree to pool some money to fund some gamers on a profit share basis. If loss, investors absorb. I know of a group that does this in Asia; infrequently. They group together to fund a gamer to play. Winnings split 60:40 or 50:50 I cannot remember.

    Its workable possibly in Asia if we arrange it through junkets. Not so much for the credit provided bcos the funders have agreed but more because the junkets provide the 24 hours monitoring of the plays. No need to argue. Possible to handle 2-4 gamers at one time as the junkets in Asia pre pandemic are quite big organisations. I think some of them are even publicly listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange.

    I also mentioned that I had started talks with 3 pax I identified but the logistics of doing it in Asia was a problem. The naivety allowed me to start the experiment with someone in the US and ended up with a complete loss of the few k bankroll I sent over. No gaming reports filed at all. Zilch.

    I may want to do it again in future but for sure, it must be in Asia where I can arrange monitoring. But for now, as my thread title suggested Baccarat is the best SMALL business. Making it as a small business is already challenging. Multiplying it is a different ball game as my initial venture demonstrated.
     
  14. gizmotron

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    More than likely - it was me. I used way to low of an attack price for the higher bet. I tried to stay alive with an almost flat betting style. I also let greed and fear take me out. Now you have your report.

    I was way too scared to win. I'm was also too scared to travel half way around the world all alone. I would need 50%/50% split. I would also need some kind of security / monitoring. Everything I do is on paper, (index cards & ink). I'm a completely different player now that I have figured out my MM weaknesses and my self control over the low and high price. I can kill off the casino at will. They can't protect themselves from the up and down swings of randomness. I would love to play a casino that takes $500 / $1,000 bets straight up on any number. That would be like maybe $20,000 per bet for the big bet price. I could see winning $100,000 to $500,000 per night. In fact I could easily live with 60% / 40% at bigtime gambler prices like that.

    I expect to get to $25 chips here on my own this next year, God willing. That's around $500 per bet for the big bet price. I see it as a business plan. It will change my living and tax status. But in that I'm not scared to travel locally in the USA and I can slowly transition my tax status. Still, making $20,000 bets is so intriguing. I use a bankroll of 30 times the big bet. I break that down into 4 parts, 1 part per session. So I will build up to $15,000 operational money to do all that. I no longer stop at 3 net wins. But I do still stop at 7 net losses per session. So now you have a report on my plans. Part of this growth goes to you. You are the one that suggested a 20 times the base value of the cheaper price bets. I was trying 2 or 3 times at the most. It's not enough. You must be able to make it past the downswings while waiting to attack the upswings.
     

  15. Nathan Detroit

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    We have nothing to fear but fear itself . F.D.R.
     
  16. Craps

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    Forming a partnership is only possible where you get people to invest in your idea and at the same time pay you loyalties for making them money. You can never employ people because greed will end it. I don't mean stealing. I mean people would find an excuse to leave and do it on their own.
    Your method has to be unique like what Soxfan describe. They are losses from one source but if the others are winning, this can work. Therefore this kind of arrangement can work.
    Right now there truly are people working in groups.
     
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  17. gizmotron

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    Actually it would be a contractual agreement, a value that would stand up in court. In a valid contract there must be a consideration for both parties. A well written contract would have considerations for every aspect of the business arrangement. It could start out with a 70% / 30% split where the investor pays all travel, meals, and lodging expenses. It could have a success clause in it where it goes to 50% / 50% after a few years and the cost of running the activity is no longer the investor's expense. The only reason for doing it in the first place is that timing is a motivating factor. We are not getting any younger. There could be a mutual agreement clause to nullify the contract. There could be a clause that the investor must take an interest in the activity. Who cares? You see deals made all the time in the music business between artists and labels. There is no such thing as the "standard contract."
     
  18. Nathan Detroit

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    Dream on.......................
     
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  19. Lungyeh

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    If a player in a football team is paid $5,000 a week performs miserably and finding fault with management as to their supposed ‘inactive’ role, do you think he would be able to find a backer who would want to give him $100,000 on the promise of having improved and so sure of now being a Ronaldo when he couldn’t make a decent pass during his 5k/week period?

    In life, when the opportunity presents itself, grab it and APPRECIATE it. Full documentation enforceable in the legal courts may not be possible for gambling, and if it is, I would look at it at the $100,000 threshold. $5k was a foot waddle in the pool but it is a loss nevertheless that could be put to good use for charitable purposes.

    And I would think the risk of loss and non compliance or even outright thievery falls on me. To say that documentation to cover every eventuality for a 5k venture is like blaming the dance floor as uneven when one cannot dance or saying one’s balls are too heavy when they cannot swim (Asian jokes). Its a total wipeout loss. Wtf. Report. And dont speak condescendingly that I am sitting at home and not doing any work. What f-ing work? I gave the money. Thats the work.
     
  20. Craps

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    No investors. Short term only perhaps. Instead of asking people to invest in you, it's actually everybody playing with their own money but have to give you loyalties for putting the whole thing together. The winnings are pooled and you get an extra cut. Usually you yourself don't play but walking around supervising the action. Perfect at the Commerce Casino in California. They have 30+ tables in close vicinity.
    One popular method which is chasing the Dragon Bonus. The casino had to lower the max bet because they were winning.
     
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