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Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by saintpreaks, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. Mars

    Mars Active Member

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    I had brief success with this method but quickly failed. I aimed for 3 wins and 1 loss when entering the shoe and played in very short sessions.

    IMO this is not the way to play although many have done it and try do it. For example, some go around or wait and look for certain things before playing. Aiming for a 75% strike rate is not realistic at all. There is no telling what you can run into and any way has to have a lot of hands to work.

    Just recently I tried two of the selections mentioned vs my current best and after around 3 1/ 2 shoes they all were almost the same. That amount of hands is nothing. The more real shoes you practice with, the more likely you are negating any short term advantage any one selection or progression can have.
     
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  2. Mars

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    1111, 2222, 333 looks too short to me.
     
  3. saintpreaks

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    If a 75% success rate is unrealistic, then ultimately only short Martingale strategies can succeed. The problem is that even when changing the shoe after three consecutive losses and using virtual betting, issues still arise. Testing with actual funds in real situations makes failures feel too significant. To succeed, it seems necessary to play with a slightly higher seed and reach the win-cut quickly through short sessions.
     
  4. saintpreaks

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    I ended up going up to 10 like this. It’s difficult.
     
  5. Mars

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    Trying to win 3 out of 4 is 75% strike rate, and anything better than 50% can win flat betting.
     
  6. saintpreaks

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    My goal is not to achieve 3 wins and 1 loss out of 4 hands. What I mean is that when I enter the shoe, I stop playing if I have a 2-hand lead over losses in that shoe.
     
  7. saintpreaks

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    Do you have a preferred entry point? I’ve been trying to enter after 33.
     

  8. saintpreaks

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    Do you also currently prefer this method? Is there a more flexible approach for entry points, response times, or handling losing streaks?
     
  9. Mars

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    Post up any shoes you want and we can all try, but I am not disclosing full selection and progression. Reviewing at the last 5 decisions is still the foundation of what I look at. There is so much in that one video, and there are so many ways to look at the game.
     
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  10. saintpreaks

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    I need to take a screenshot, but I wasn’t able to because I had to switch shoes after a losing streak. I’ll try to take one during the next losing streak.
     
  11. saintpreaks

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    From what I’ve seen, it’s best to stop betting after streaks of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, or more. While you might expect a 1 win and 1 loss outcome with two streaks, having three or more streaks increases the risk of consecutive losses because of patterns like 33. This is the only finding I’ve come across, so I’m sharing it.
     
  12. Mars

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    I don't look at anything like that at all. Most players are trend and streak driven. It's best you put up case examples so everyone can more easily tell if they are on the same page and using the same definition.
     
  13. saintpreaks

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  14. Mars

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    22W - 15L staring on hand #4.

    Some Bank strength/ some in and out of 2s and 3s/ some jumping/ some Player strength/ 3 maximum gets confirmed.

    To clarify if one of more sides starts 2/ 3/ 4/ 5 max then maybe over a shoe that gets reinforced into a streak, but I do not go looking to active position like that will happen...
     
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  15. saintpreaks

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    So, do you only look for situations where the banker is dominant when entering? My goal is to avoid experiencing 6–7 consecutive losses.
     
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    No. Majority 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, etc. would look at the last # of decisions. If Bank is winning more than a baseline decision is Bank. If Player is winning more then a baseline decision is Player. Go watch the video from Jay Silva I posted in entirety and take careful notes. He is not the only one who developed this type of thinking. Of course there are many times where a shoe suddenly changes from one side to the other...
     
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    One could also play the recent shoe totally anti and go against last decision with a good enough progression. It's many times 1, 2, 3 maximum.
     
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    Saint, to much typing. Get yourself some graph notebooks and go to work at the kitchen table. Myself as well as everyone else can't teach you how we think.
    Mars, Jay Silva is and has always been a fraud like all the other scammers. When you first brought him up I was like here we go again. You can watch one video and he plays one way and another the opposite claiming them to be different systems. Funny how they both worked at that time.
    You have another guy with a big nice website selling his systems. In his played shoes to show how successful he was I picked a random one. He called it the shoe from hell. At a glance Player never went to two. God what a nightmare! I've seen chip racks cleaned out on a banker dom like that. Professionals? yeah right.....

    Here is another chop/follow or same/opposite for you. Look at the last 3 as did they chop or follow and track whether the next three do the same or not.......Lots of singles or two out of threes..... Your welcome....
     
  19. Mars

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    You dumb Porky. If you can't understand these basics, sign up for kindergarten FFS.

    Nobody going to spend countless time teaching or sharing with lazy dumb as rocks all hat no cattle assumer. As if nobody has ever tried or tested or v played anything on their own in addition...
     
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  20. saintpreaks

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    I want to win. I feel like I'm going crazy. What you guys say isn't easy to understand because there are a lot of translation errors if it's not a simple conversation. So it's hard for me to grasp. I have to keep asking questions and testing endlessly to stop losing. But I still lose money. I want to survive. I want to make some money from baccarat, even if it's just a little. I can't understand those YouTube videos, and I can't afford to buy them.
    Should I find the last 6 patterns like fcfcfc/fccfff and bet on the one that appears the most?
    f = pppp/bbb/bb pp
    c = p b/p/b
    I follow the last three lines of fcfc a lot? Please let me know. Once I understand, I'll stop talking and start writing in my notebook. I can't research on my own. I'm like a kindergarten student in baccarat. Thanks sincerely for your reply.
     
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