Roulette a VERY good repeater (hot) number method from Ken

Where do you put pictures so that you can post them?

 

So, using a $5 base value and adding enough to each bet at each spin to get $5 for each spin of an 8 step progression, $5 to $40 in winnings, ( actual step values not published here at this time), like I need the dumbshit patrol when I'm trying to explain something, I have figured that this method might actually work well. It makes a little money each time when it typically loses about 1 in 2.5 times tried. I mean it does a little better than just breaking even It wins a little when it loses once in 150 tries, about 500 spins on average. Very few times it loses more than one time. But that is made up for in the fact that it wins almost 2 to 1 . Those numbers would have to be verified with 1000's of session tests. But I was clearly edging on the side of the loser stats.

I added telemetry so that I could validate process.

Here is some telemetry:

Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: L 5 Prog = L,L,H,L,L,L,NB,H,H, Numbers Hit = 24, 5,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: H 32 Prog = H,H,H,NB,L,L,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 10, 32,
Won @ step 3 H/L & Number: L 17 Prog = H,H,L,H,L,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 7, 12, 17,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: L 17 Prog = H,L,H,L,H,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 10, 17,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 4 Prog = L,H,H,H,L,L,H,NB,NB,H, Numbers Hit = 4,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 31 Prog = H,H,L,L,L,NB,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 31,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 17 Prog = L,NB,H,H,NB,H,L,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 17,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 10 Prog = L,L,L,NB,H,L,H,H,H, Numbers Hit = 10,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 21 Prog = H,H,L,H,H,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 21,

 

For those trolls that like to play with themselves, "it typically loses about 1 in 2.5 times tried," that means that the full 8 step progression is tried 150 times for an average spin count near 450 to 500 spins to get all 150 tries in. I beat you to your usual moron festival BS.

 

Gizmo,

How does your probability of winning differ from what probability would predict in a random game?

 

Don't mind the quotations

I've read about law of averages, but I find it kind of confusing. On the other hand they say that in the long-term flipping a coin evens out and then they say law of averages don't exist. Seems kind of contradictory and then again.. laws are meant to be broken. If you observe nature, you can find repeating patterns everywhere for example.

Like said, I'm definately no expert and observing 10k spins isn't exactly large amount of data but it did make me think as I experienced it first hand.

 

Makes no sense to me? I don't have my own probability.

 

Does your probability of winning differ from what is predicted in the random game?

How does your odds of winning your 8 step progression differ from what random predicts?

 

Random predicts 5.4% loss rate. I'm not done testing this yet. I could get a rough number if I run the test 10,000 times.

 

Here are 50 test runs where about 400 spins average are tested 50 times with 100 trials of the 8 step progression:

Each step gives a win for that step, 1 step 5, 2 steps 10, 3 steps 15, etc... 8 steps 40

5
15
35
75
155
315
635
1275
--------------
2510 -- Total if loss

These are the results of 50 runs:

Times lost = 0 Total spins = 505
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 341
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 421
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 402
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 313
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 439
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 527
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 397
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 371
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 342
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 254
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 433
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 343
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 432
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 460
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 444
Times lost = 2 Total spins = 460
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 326
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 430
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 353
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 518
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 410
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 304
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 344
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 443
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 346
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 352
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 353
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 433
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 379
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 316
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 358
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 300
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 411
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 357
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 340
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 399
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 321
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 433
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 390
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 382
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 332
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 393
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 443
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 361
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 503
Times lost = 1 Total spins = 376
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 380
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 433
Times lost = 0 Total spins = 355

Total number of losses = 16
Total number of spins = 19,458

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97,290 in winnings
-40,160 in losses
---------
57,130 in profit

I'd say it works pretty good. Let's hear it for Obfuscation.

 

Here is the telemetry for just one test run:

Won @ step 4 H/L & Number: L 18 Prog = L,L,L,L,H,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 21, 26, 22, 18,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 2 Prog = L,L,H,H,L,L,L,L, Numbers Hit = 2,
Won @ step 3 H/L & Number: H 27 Prog = L,L,H,L,L,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 30, 38, 27,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 12 Prog = L,H,L,L,L,H,H,H, Numbers Hit = 12,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: L 11 Prog = H,L,L,H,H,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 16, 11,
Won @ step 3 H/L & Number: L 14 Prog = L,H,L,L,H,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 23, 4, 14,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 18 Prog = L,L,L,L,H,L,L,L, Numbers Hit = 18,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 29 Prog = H,L,H,L,H,H,L,H, Numbers Hit = 29,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: H 30 Prog = H,H,H,L,L,NB,H,L,H, Numbers Hit = 8, 30,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: H 33 Prog = L,H,L,H,H,H,H,H, Numbers Hit = 27, 33,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 11 Prog = L,H,H,L,H,L,L,L, Numbers Hit = 11,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 22 Prog = H,L,NB,H,H,L,H,H,L, Numbers Hit = 22,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: L 16 Prog = H,L,H,L,L,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 15, 16,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 22 Prog = H,L,L,H,NB,H,H,H,NB,L, Numbers Hit = 22,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 10 Prog = L,H,H,L,H,H,H,L, Numbers Hit = 10,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 10 Prog = L,L,L,NB,L,L,NB,H,NB,H,L, Numbers Hit = 10,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 1 Prog = L,L,H,H,L,H,H,H, Numbers Hit = 1,
Won @ step 3 H/L & Number: L 1 Prog = L,H,L,H,L,H,H,L, Numbers Hit = 36, 2, 1,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 7 Prog = L,L,L,H,H,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 7,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: H 24 Prog = H,H,L,H,L,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 8, 24,
Won @ step 5 H/L & Number: H 24 Prog = L,H,L,H,H,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 22, 1, 26, 9, 24,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: L 12 Prog = H,L,L,H,L,H,H,L, Numbers Hit = 9, 12,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 9 Prog = L,H,H,NB,L,L,H,H,H, Numbers Hit = 9,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 27 Prog = H,H,H,H,H,L,L,L, Numbers Hit = 27,
Won @ step 6 H/L & Number: H 32 Prog = L,L,H,L,L,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 21, 29, 16, 29, 34, 32,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 20 Prog = H,L,H,L,NB,L,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 20,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 19 Prog = H,H,H,L,H,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 19,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 26 Prog = H,H,L,H,L,NB,H,H,H, Numbers Hit = 26,
Won @ step 3 H/L & Number: H 20 Prog = H,H,H,H,L,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 9, 38, 20,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 31 Prog = H,H,H,L,L,H,L,H, Numbers Hit = 31,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 30 Prog = H,NB,L,H,H,H,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 30,
Won @ step 7 H/L & Number: H 27 Prog = L,H,L,L,H,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 34, 9, 24, 31, 9, 27, 27,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 11 Prog = L,H,L,H,H,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 11,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 23 Prog = H,H,L,H,H,H,NB,H,L, Numbers Hit = 23,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: H 20 Prog = H,H,L,H,H,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 9, 20,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 9 Prog = L,L,H,H,H,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 9,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 1 Prog = L,H,L,H,L,H,H,L, Numbers Hit = 1,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: H 28 Prog = H,H,L,L,H,H,L,H, Numbers Hit = 4, 28,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 14 Prog = L,H,L,L,L,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 14,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 5 Prog = L,NB,H,L,H,L,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 5,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 30 Prog = H,H,L,H,H,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 30,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 18 Prog = L,L,H,H,H,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 18,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 16 Prog = L,H,H,H,L,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 16,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 18 Prog = L,H,L,L,L,H,H,L, Numbers Hit = 18,
Won @ step 4 H/L & Number: H 31 Prog = H,L,L,H,H,NB,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 12, 35, 23, 31,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 10 Prog = L,H,H,H,H,H,H,H, Numbers Hit = 10,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 30 Prog = H,H,H,H,L,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 30,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 11 Prog = L,L,L,H,H,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 11,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: H 35 Prog = L,H,H,H,H,H,H,L, Numbers Hit = 19, 35,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: L 10 Prog = L,L,NB,H,L,L,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 33, 10,
Won @ step 5 H/L & Number: H 25 Prog = L,L,L,L,H,H,H,NB,H, Numbers Hit = 30, 31, 21, 34, 25,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 33 Prog = H,NB,L,L,H,H,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 33,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 10 Prog = L,H,L,H,L,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 10,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 18 Prog = L,L,L,L,L,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 18,
Won @ step 5 H/L & Number: L 16 Prog = H,H,H,H,L,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 3, 17, 10, 37, 16,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 34 Prog = H,L,L,H,H,H,L,H, Numbers Hit = 34,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 3 Prog = L,L,H,H,L,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 3,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 8 Prog = L,H,L,H,L,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 8,
Won @ step 3 H/L & Number: H 36 Prog = L,H,H,L,H,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 22, 5, 36,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: H 23 Prog = H,H,L,H,L,H,H,H, Numbers Hit = 7, 23,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 25 Prog = H,L,NB,L,L,H,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 25,
Won @ step 3 H/L & Number: L 5 Prog = H,H,L,H,L,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 6, 13, 5,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 35 Prog = H,L,L,L,H,H,L,NB,L, Numbers Hit = 35,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 36 Prog = H,L,H,H,L,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 36,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: L 15 Prog = H,L,H,H,H,L,L,L, Numbers Hit = 13, 15,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 24 Prog = H,H,L,L,NB,H,H,L,H, Numbers Hit = 24,
Won @ step 4 H/L & Number: L 4 Prog = L,L,H,L,L,H,H,H, Numbers Hit = 38, 28, 9, 4,
Won @ step 3 H/L & Number: H 31 Prog = H,H,H,H,L,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 2, 12, 31,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 10 Prog = L,L,H,L,L,H,L,H, Numbers Hit = 10,
Won @ step 3 H/L & Number: H 29 Prog = L,H,H,H,H,L,L,L, Numbers Hit = 22, 14, 29,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 34 Prog = H,H,L,NB,H,L,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 34,
Won @ step 3 H/L & Number: L 1 Prog = L,H,L,L,H,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 33, 15, 1,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: H 25 Prog = H,H,L,H,H,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 3, 25,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 36 Prog = H,H,H,L,H,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 36,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 31 Prog = H,H,H,L,H,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 31,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 28 Prog = H,H,H,H,L,H,L,L, Numbers Hit = 28,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: H 23 Prog = H,H,L,H,L,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 12, 23,
Lost @ step 9 H/L & Number: 2 Prog = H,H,L,L,L,H,L,H, Numbers Hit = 16, 16, 19, 30, 21, 37, 24, 15, 2,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 17 Prog = L,L,L,L,H,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 17,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 24 Prog = H,H,H,L,H,H,H,H, Numbers Hit = 24,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 4 Prog = L,H,H,H,NB,L,L,L,H, Numbers Hit = 4,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: L 4 Prog = L,L,NB,L,L,L,NB,NB,H,L,H, Numbers Hit = 30, 4,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: H 28 Prog = H,H,H,H,L,H,NB,L,L, Numbers Hit = 15, 28,
Won @ step 3 H/L & Number: H 27 Prog = L,H,H,H,H,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 22, 14, 27,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 30 Prog = H,H,H,L,L,H,H,H, Numbers Hit = 30,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 25 Prog = H,L,H,H,H,NB,L,H,H, Numbers Hit = 25,
Won @ step 2 H/L & Number: L 6 Prog = H,L,L,H,L,H,H,L, Numbers Hit = 6, 6,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: H 23 Prog = H,H,L,H,H,L,H,L, Numbers Hit = 23,
Won @ step 1 H/L & Number: L 11 Prog = L,H,H,H,H,L,L,L, Numbers Hit = 11,

Times lost = 1 Total spins = 386
Total number of losses = 1 Total number of spins = 386

 

So with $5 being the min bet at the CASINO, we are assuming, the outside max bet will be higher than 1k, correct? If it isn't, what is the math losing at 635?

If its a $10 or $15 min outside bet, dont play that day?

Ken

 

Obviously I've done something wrong. The telemetry confirms the results though. Each randomly selected unique pre selected sequence of 8 is created before any of the 500 spin trials take place. It is selected by the app by the spin number and the line number of the sequence chart. It can only be killed by executing perfectly wrong for 8 steps from the next 8 spins. That telemetry is there for each try. You can see the sequence and you can see the actual spins too in each line of telemetry. It shows if it won or lost.

Each spin wins 5, this progression does not just pay off on a winning sequence at the original 5 but it pays of 5 for each step, 5 to 40 however long it takes.

 

Ken, I thought of that too. I guess you find a way to place the remaining 275 on the inside. Gotta figure that one out. Almost all the Indian casinos I go to have 1000 as the max outside. It takes 502 spins to balance one loss.

 

I'd play the first bet at $10, the second in the sequence would still be $15. It's a problem isn't it?

 

Its a prob depending on the min and max at that particular time you are on the table (especially the outside max bet WILL BE a problem).

Second is balls/guts. Showing something works "fine" and having the nut sack is completely something different. Do I have the BR for that? Sure but I wouldn't do it.

Ken

 

Gizmo,

Since you don't know the probability, what is your hypothesis as to why your system should work?

 

Ken, if anyone on this planet knows progressions it's you. And my gut tells me that I have made a mistake in the algorithm. I must have.

 

It shouldn't. I mean we both know that. It can't work. So I'll put more telemetry in it to find the mistake. There has to be a mistake.

Let's say it does work. The answer would be the perfect timing vs the unique one time sequence to match.

 

Gizmo,

I don't need to run the sims to know the long term results.

 

@Gizmo >> I'm not saying the math is wrong, per say.

I'm saying, if someone were to really use this (at B&M), they would have to have multiple BRs, nuts of steal and must do their homework ahead of time in regards to min/max limits on "whatever" table AND the when? Weekends etc.

Ken