TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Game is in play. What's the known average to hit for 20 spins? 1-3=4 How many repeats? Just happens to be 1 that's a match. I have profit and could stop.

 

over to you Serg

 

You get shown possible #'s to use. What Turb's said above.

 

Repeats on average over 40 spins; is 1-3-5-7=16
40 spins on this game is 17 #'s have repeated. 1-3-5-7 is not writ in stone. But it happens again and again.

 

Sure the gaps are small enough to profit. Way under 35 spins. But some gap might be 40 spins and later you get 2 hits in 20 spins . (For example).

 

exactly Den. But knowing which potential #'s to bet and not guessing like in precog, still making a profit.
Incidently at 60th spin 31 of the starting 37 have hit. As i say at 60 spins repeats are usually 30, so, this game is fair.


Look at matches

 

Bago; is it a guess

 

Well to be honest you are guessing.
You are guessing which of the hot numbers will continue to stay hot and which will be replaced.
But yes you can have more accuracy than guessing 1 from 37.

Its all in the gaps.
If you find a way to manage distance between gaps since the accuracy part is somewhat "covered" you have a winner.

 

I dont know if Turbo answered but I played your spins.
First have you set a profit goal?
If you do, my profit goal before I reset my tracking usually is 100 units.

In that frame I had won 179 units by spin 89, (using 1/5/25 on top contenters inside the three columns)
Theres no need to go further - I would either reset my progression or reset my tracking.

I can see why you put that permanence here though.. Its a difficult one with slow racers.

 

Depends which are the base units. 1€ ... I not even fart. ..... 25€...Yup , i'll need a napkin for my sweat but as long we got the advantage we know we get there. Money managment . ( before risking big bucks....test test and test some more. Than start small....to end big )

 

You read my mind. This 1/37 crap gets annoying. The house edge gets annoying. Take away that 2,7% and most people still lose ........ ( the house edge is from all casino's and games ever played .... if i play a 10 step Marty and win for my lifetime...the HE never got me..if im on a night out with friends and beer in the casino and a certain # is on fire ----i might win 50k and never give it back... ) . Just go look at the tables and see how some people behave around the Wheel.......mostly im fighting my mouth coz i feel like saying....stay the f*ck outta my way. Most cats there will lose for sure.........they pay our part

 

Denzie what makes you so sure about Turbos system this time round?
You were saying similar things before?
Spin count? No guarantees there.
Top 3 horses? Only works when a number/s goes super hot.
What else is new?
Nothing Imo

 

Smit; using 105 of the 107 spins; would be +187, with a softer progression.

What makes me chuckle, is the only 3 remaining non-hits, look to the red squares.
This stream of numbers are great. 33 of the starting 37 hit by spin60. Better still 29 of the starting 37, hit by spin 40.
If, you can win from such a killer of a start, imagine how easy to win when repeats hit faster.

Where's the time machine?

 

Smit; your goal, re-set. Rulet, Repeats happen over 40 spins; close to 16 #'s repeat, 1-3-5-7. Here 30 spins 9 repeats. Now some will be winners, but some will not be showing as potential #'s to bet. But its given the known data of 9 repeats.


Over to the ???

 

One way to win is, to play an increasing set of numbers when you’re not hitting and a steady set of numbers (top 3) after a hit.
I think you might be able to create an edge.
I don’t know, at times it’s very difficult.
Other times piss easy

 

I cleaned up the thread again, you have to understand that with almost 25,000 views - the misfits are using it
to try to get attention.
I'll keep it orderly though. Thanks everyone for participating.

 

Thanks Turbo and everybody participating, it is always very interesting to read you all.

I really liked how Naughty but nice set his excel sheet and his post with the comments of the race, especially what he said about average intervals, and eugene's post was also very good with some stats about how the 0x 1x 2x...etc move every 37 spins.

I read that a lot of you and Turbo probably too, use a positive progression, but I don't get how you manage that since sometimes, even if the average is 24 spins, you have an interval between two positions that can go 70 spins or more. I agree with the concept of positive progression or flatbet, I think negative's one are risky for the bankroll. I have noticed btw that a repeater tend to come many time fast on a short period of spins, usually 3 or 4 repeats with intervals between 1 to 10-12, that's the acceleration and then you have a slowing movement of that number for a longer number of spins, or it can also get to sleep and others then take the lead. So a positive progression is interesting if the intervals is short but if it gets too long, it can cost a lot to have increased the bet after a win. So if you can share more about how you manage your progression and also what kind of bankroll you think would be best depending on a 1 unit size for exemple it would be very interesting.

I think it is important, as Turbo said, to not bet all the time and not all the numbers. A dynamic approach is essential. However there could be an advantage to start flat betting the number that leads the race when it is alone up 1 or more repetition from the others till another number reach his level of repetition.

Another thing that can be done is to wait a 15 spin intervals before betting (it can be 12 or 18 intervals, I am not sure what is the ideal wait to get the more hits), because 24 is an average so I think waiting 24 all the time will have too many hit missed. Having a changing interval can be an idea to dig more into, knowing that after 100 of spins or more the average will tend to be 24 but that is complicated and betting become maybe too involved.

To come back about average and stats, eugene's post and what naughty said about winkel averages (if someone has more infos and data about averages it would be great to see it). When you integrate that to your bet selection you can really increase your bet selection opportunities. not only bet the leaders of the race but also start to pay attention of how the other numbers moves upward the race, when they do it, ... etc, it is all connected to how random works :

Example, sketchy, to be improved :
start a session fresh (you can also start after the first 3x number repeated for ex)
- start to bet every number that appears by the 8th spins you tend to have one repeat.
- the first to repeat is the leader and so far he is the only one so flatbet it in case it repeats.
- 4 spins later, if no other repeat start to bet on all the appeared number, by spin 13th another repeat is to be expected.
- when you have a second repeat (second horse) stop betting the first, but keep the counts of the spins and intervals between the spins they appeared and start betting again on them after a 15 spin interval for example.
- while waiting to bet again check if you have other betting opportunity, knowing that by spin 37, you will have around 12 to 16 0x numbers, around 12 to 14 1x numbers, and 4 or more 2 hits or more (with our 3 top horses included). choose accordingly as what is to be expected statistically.
- when the next 37 spins start you also know that on average 1/3 of the 0x from the last 37 spins will hit, the 2x will usually double... etc,...

I would recommend flatbetting since you are expected to have more hits, betting more often, more numbers sometimes, the idea is to try to bet following the flow of the random. This is not a system and there is no rules set in stone, its more about trying to understand and read random to have the best bet selection on many spins, of course sometimes, you don't bet every spins, and it will lose some spins but overall it wins if the bet selection is done well.

I agree with those who reset once a win goal has been reach, it is not good to stay too long on the same session because then you miss the race within the race where non lead numbers accelerate to join the already advanced horses. But then comes the problem of the variance of session, maybe when you restart it is the end of the trend of some repeater, and you are in between the two. etc. ti can be tricky. Maybe the ideal bet opportunity is between the 3x and the 7-8x.

Apart from that, I played just the 3 top leaders, without betting all the time, with some personal selection depending on what was happening and I had good result. I played online, the best result were surprisingly on a rigged roulette but that always have thousands of players, and i was betting very low unit size. Other tables had less players and result were positive too but not as much (slow repeaters, big intervals,...) , I was using a negative progression, but I can see how it can burst, so I wouldn't recommend it. Also I would not recommend playing online, unless it is on table with lots and lots of player and without using progression and keeping bet size low.

Finally Turbo, I wanted to ask you what do you thinks about the fairness of different roulette. For example do you thinks RRS is a problem for this repeaters ? I don't see how it would but I would like to have your specialist view on that. Most of the roulette even in BM casino with real croupier use them to counteract the Advantage players doing clocking and visual ballistic. You said RNG works fine, but how can we make sure a RNG roulette in a casino is fair, or a roulette with croupier is fair ? do you have any tips on how to select good fair roulette without having to wait thousands of spins to check chi-square or other too technical things ?

I sitll haven't done it but we should open a new thread to comment about casino and fair roulette, in different cities we travel.

cheers

 

Here's some way to get less drawdowns..
Make 3 to 5 columns ( Yup at column 5 they also hot)

Start at first 3x ( those 1x and 2x bring to much chaos)

Bet this # till it hits(still hot) or leaves our 3 to 5 columns. (Got cold) Meaning if its hot and remain the leader you're on it. If It's get cold you not keep losing chips on it. If another one takes it place bet that one too(new leader). Did a few tests with very good results Flatbetting. ( note: I could even put a mild negative progression if needed. That would bust only if our leaders never get another hit before leaving our columns....which is very rare). And mostly im done around the 7x already. After that the gaps get bigger but never the less...hits still come

Enjoy !

 

I play quite similar (the slower way though more effective).
How do you define "leaves our columns" if you are also betting the next leader?
Are you betting horizontally each race?