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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Jono1167

    Jono1167 Active Member

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    Hi Smitridel

    I will clarify the information I presented a few days ago. The original data doesn’t change, however the presentation of the data does.

    For every number which appears in one of the top three positions, two things will happen. The number will repeat in 35 spins or it will repeat after 35 spins.

    Green box: A green box is used if the number repeats in 35 spins.
    Red box. A red box is used if the number does not repeat in 35 spins.

    I won’t worry about assigning monetary values this time. Keep it simple.

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    This session was unusual because fifteen numbers appeared from a possible 45 locations: 0, 25, 21, 8, 23, 12, 7, 30, 33, 3, 5, 29, 4, 1, 2
     
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  2. Jono1167

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    Data recorded Saturday 6th of June.

    Green box: A green box is used if the number repeats in 35 spins.
    Red box. A red box is used if the number does not repeat in 35 spins.

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    Ten numbers appeared from a possible 45 locations: 20, 4, 3, 31, 34, 10, 19, 7, 15, 25



    Data recorded Sunday 7th of June.

    Green box: A green box is used if the number repeats in 35 spins.
    Red box. A red box is used if the number does not repeat in 35 spins.

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    Thirteen numbers appeared from a possible 45 locations: 12, 32, 8, 27, 6, 36, 10, 13, 24, 23, 4, 9, 2
     
  3. Smitridel

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    Thank you for the time you invested on making clarifications!
    Now, question or Im not getting something right: Why is 23 designated as a loss since it repeated on 3rd position (spin 14) and repeated again on 2nd position(spin 39) since their in between gap is 25 spins and are still in the top 3 frame?

    As a side note one can experiment with limiting your spins on 20 and betting
    only on every 2x that appears to become 3x (essentially hunting for a number that triple-hits inside a 20spin frame) If in that spin frame a 2x becomes a 1x drop it and keep going with the rest.
    Flat bet.

    Anyway just something I wanted to point out but I'll be looking forward to your answer.
     
  4. Jono1167

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    Good question Smitridel. Let me clarify.... It's just how I have decided to present the data.

    The 'rule' is as soon as a number appears in one of the top three positions, one unit is placed on that number.

    #23 qualifies for the first time at spin 14 (third position). One unit is placed on it. #23 repeats at spin 39 for a win (repeat within 35 spins). The box where the unit was placed, turns GREEN to record the win.

    #23 qualifies again at spin 39 (second position). One unit is placed on it. #23 does not repeat again until spin 121. This is a loss. The box where the unit was placed, turns RED to record the loss.

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    I hope this clarifies things. I'm trying to find the best way to present the data consistently, something I didn't do the first time.
     

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  5. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    So, what’s happening? 4 #’s have met expectation. Will these 4 #’s become hot, repeaters?

    What do the math boys say? Every 37 spins, every number should hit once. So, do you bet the 4; 1x’s?

    Not really; they might not show again for 37 spins.

    What does Riddler say? For a number too show twice, it must show once. “WHAT” so, we do bet them?

    Wait, what will the larger group do? Give more of the starting 37, 1x’s.

    (Now, lets look at the line 1x) this is the start, okay, be it a race.

    When that 1st R1 or Turbos 2x lands; this is another race, so, you have a race within a race. The same can be said for when the 1st R2 or 3x lands.

    What is going to happen over the next 60 spins? Do you have any idea on how many repeats will have happened? Probably 30 of the 60 spins will be repeats.

    30; I hear, yes, you’ll more than likely have 30 of the starting 37 repeat.

    The question is; how many R1/2x will there be? Again, you can ask this of R2, R3 maybe even R4. A race within a race.

    Is there any info on what sleepers can do? Then is there any on repeats?
     
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  6. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    I like it more, +455, all came good.
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  7. Ricky_BRS

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    Hi Denzie,
    negative progression is so tempting with this Repeaters bet especially if you use the right one with a good recovery process. This one seems to be holding aster 100K spins
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  8. Smitridel

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    I see. Thank you for the clarification.
    So it seems you are actually playing 1 to 5 numbers per spin (depending on how many qualified numbers you have).
    This means to make it playable flat bet we need to be playing on all of them and not just the top 3 of each level (2x, 3x etc) all within a 35 timer of each hit.
    Is that how you play it?

    What I also have noticed in test and in real play (and its also seen in your data presentation) is that even though the top positions are changing some times there will be a period in your session when the top numbers will continue hitting without the need to add new contenders.

    This, along with mr j posts of some years ago has lead me to believe that once you define your spin frame parameters (like 12 spins, 20 spins etc) on a rolling basis you can target on numbers that are persistent (keep hitting ) enough throughout the rolling x number frame.
     
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  9. Naughty but nice

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    Here is the classic start. 20 spins just 2 repeats.
    Do you start with the 1st 4 at expectation or wait for those meeting expectation
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    Riddle that one
     
  10. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Classic start? Is it one pocket to0 many?
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    So, we can see races within the race.

    Just 1 of the 37 remain; so, obviously the R1 will fill. This means the R2 come into play and so on.

    Using the 1st 4, needed the time frame or spin count.

    But with supposedly 1 pocket to0 many it made the +100 target. We only have 11 #’s from the 37. Is it now entering the sweet spot? Look at the matches!!
     
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  11. Jono1167

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    Thanks Smitridel. My focus is on collecting data for the hit intervals between numbers which appear in the top three positions. How many of the numbers end in profit and how many end in loss. This is all done in the 35 spin parameter.

    Good point on targeting numbers with a lower spin frame. That will be the next step in this process.

    I’m enjoying testing the information in this thread.
     
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  12. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    #36; #26
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    spin 29, 54,64, 101,106. Black circles
     
  13. Denzie

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    it sure is tempting . I mostly redo my sessions using a negative progression and it didn't fail me yet :facepalm:
     
  14. Denzie

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    keep a eye out for those 3s in the matching column . If we get a few in a row with a positive progression would make the br grow ....

    Starting 1u on first column (hit) ...5u on second column (hit)...25u on third column (hit)...125u on first column (hit).......we dare to go further? Lol
     

  15. gizmotron

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    Does this Turbo method require the use of big win streaks in order to recover and win or does it win enough to have a low level stop win position as enough in order to work? It's a question about the long term effectiveness of the system.
     
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  17. Naughty but nice

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    [​IMG]

    Ricky
    Does this show games of 500 spins say; with top 3 at 20x and reset. Or is it another way?
     
  18. Naughty but nice

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    Quiet, guess everyones off making money.
    Here's Gizmo's little 30 spins from the boring forum, where his reading random is.
    Nice sequence of spins 13 repeats in 30 spins. Fast for repeats; but this is what you want. 2-3-8
    1-3-5-7&30 is not set in stone. But you'll see 16 repeats over 40 spins, so, often. The only problem is how you get them, could be like Mr Eko said 1-7-1-7.
    More, nah go learn.
    upload_2020-6-10_8-22-42.png
     
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  19. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Well Gizmo, a game where repeats are fast.
    upload_2020-6-10_9-28-6.png

    Job done.

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  20. Rulet

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    Look at the spin gap!
    Last appeared at spin 85 then lose the lead, reappear in second place at spin 202!
    Started betting at 3x for example positive progression say 1 5 25
    You’re betting 25 for 117 spins, no hit.
    You probably have dropped it after 35 spins but still....
     

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