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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Quos

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    Hi CDN!
    I Think this option is very valid. Especially if we apply the progression 1-5-reset to 1 on each number of each column, applying the progression every time that chosen number hits where it hits (columns A .... Z).

    I also believe that we can transfer the progression between numbers. That is, if for example, at a certain moment we are betting on the number 5 (last consecutive pair of column C) with 5 chips, and that number changes as 14 14 appears in column C, then, the number 14 begins to bet 5 chips (by transferring the step of the progression of the previous number of the same column (number 5)).
    Do you think this is correct?


    I attach a test chart of 105 spins.

    Regards!!
     

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  2. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Sitting in the B+M ??
     
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  3. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Rulet; after the 1st 8, 1x’s; how many more 1x’s need to come, before you have 8, R1’s. Then how many more R1’s come before you have 8 R2’s.

    How many before you have 8, R3’s?

    Think how you’ll use the 8?
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    Denzie did say contenders outside the top 3 are busy.
     
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  4. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Steady old 8#'s
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  5. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Same hot 8#'s
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    4 hot numbers to0 many, for top dogg, eh, Mr J
     
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  6. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Like a hot air balloon, up, up
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    Just 8#'s
     
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  7. Naughty but nice

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    28 in 40 spins
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    60 spins, 33 non-hit, 27 repeats.
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    Is it lift of, 8#’s?
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    Eugene, re-set time. I’ll carry on as its testing.

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    Nice!

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    All 37 in 109 spins.

    upload_2020-6-20_20-6-36.png ;)
     
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  8. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Chief Riddler, has given a range of 3.
    Denzie, mentioned action is going on outside this range.
    Now, what size range could you have?
    Could or should it only be 3?
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    What range is being used here? 3-5-6 or 9, maybe 12.
    The wider your net, the more chance of catching the action.
     
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  9. Naughty but nice

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    4 ranges, how many has range 1 got you betting. Where did hot #16 come from? Same of #34.
    As its +1032 using range 1; Would it be good to move to range 2? How many of range 1 come from range 2?
     
  10. Naughty but nice

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    That's Eugene's target reached, #20
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  11. Rulet

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    Turbo, your system in all honesty is hit and miss at best.
    You can have multiple slow sessions where no number goes hot enough to make any gains.
    I played several sessions upto now and bad sessions outweigh the good ones by a ratio of 3:1
    You need a huge bankroll and plenty of time to gain something.
    Clearly you’re going to say I m doing it wrong, but if the numbers aren’t hot enough there isn’t much you can do.

    P.s. RS results don’t mean shit...
     
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  12. SERGIO

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    It is all very nice in R-simulator, RX, etc ...
    But you have to play for real money and see what happens, there are very good sessions and others that you do not win with anything exposed by Turbo. I repeat that online casinos have a very good mapping to identify your game and then find a way to make you lose.
    There will be something else that Turbo does not reveal for sure! Because on Skype I was spoken by a certain franky who says that we don't know something important, I don't know what he means, but the truth is that at least I don't need it, but I would like to know, because everything related to roulette, I'm interested and I work Lasted.
    On the other hand, I already said and I repeat, that I believe that there are other simpler ways to take advantage of the law of disintegration and it works, both when the roulette rolls many unique ones, and when it rolls many repeats!
    I am sure that Turbo has worked a lot this way of playing to reach good conclusions, but in the end, one has to think for himself what is the best way to take advantage of this law, that is what I did and what you can all do!
    Everything that Turbo explains is only informative, none of the things that I have exposed, I am sure that they are not their ways of playing, because if they are, they do not always win flat!
     
  13. Smitridel

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    I agree on the slow spin part.
    Many sessions are like that.

    However.

    How many spins have you played in total?
    Im asking because even in the worst case scenario the 3:1 should be (statistically speaking) at least 3:2 or even.

    The problem is that you started with a negative bias towards these methods from the moment you jumped in the thread(s) and ever since youve been clinging on every other member's interpretation of the core idea following them to the letter and judging your success or lack of it, by small samples of results.

    This kind of playing/testing/ whatever doesnt allow you to think for yourself since you're subconsciously (or even consciously?) trying to prove them wrong and you're actually sabotaging and blocking yourself from further expanding on the core idea.
     
  14. cps10

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    Interested to see how people would play this particular series. I know 800 spins is almost impossible unless you have Red Bull and a steady supply of it. I will say that I see what Turbo has shown us and it is in-"Genius". These numbers are very consistent with every set that I've tested. Tell me where your entry point would be and what you would do? I am trying to figure out the best way to attack although I do see set ups like this all the time. It's easy to reverse engineer it especially since the 24 takes the lead and never lets go for a long time. Also notice that there is a place in there between 21x and 22x where it goes to sleep for 154 spins. And that happens when you get such a lead. In fact, if you start at 10x you are looking at 20 more hits in 589 spins, or almost 30 spins per hit. That would still get you 20 x 6 units profit = 120 units. Not bad, but a long time for such an ROI flat betting. Anyway, here is the image:

    Column1 1st # Spin # 2nd # Spin #2 3rd # Spin #3 Repeats
    1x 24 1 14 2 35 3
    2x 35 8 28 14 5 17 0
    3x 35 10 5 25 24 43 2
    4x 5 31 35 39 12 63 2
    5x 30 72 29 73 35 74 1
    6x 24 78 35 86 5 89 2
    7x 24 79 35 90 23 115 2
    8x 35 103 24 124 5 141 2
    9x 24 128 35 170 32 184 2
    10x 24 143 21 195 32 210 2
    11x 24 154 35 240 5 257 1
    12x 24 172 35 248 11 284 2
    13x 24 177 35 282 5 315 2
    14x 24 192 35 286 5 332 3
    15x 24 218 35 310 5 342 3
    16x 24 232 35 368 30 420 2
    17x 24 242 35 414 30 444 3
    18x 24 260 35 474 33 490 2
    19x 24 292 35 535 30 545 2
    20x 24 301 30 557 22 561 2
    21x 24 302 30 563 35 597 2
    22x 24 456 30 564 35 643 3
    23x 24 530 30 570 22 662 2
    24x 24 542 30 642 22 693 3
    25x 24 554 30 663 35 718 2
    26x 24 621 30 670 35 72 3
    27x 24 644 30 725 23 750 2
    28x 24 671 22 774 30 784 2
    29x 24 684 22 782 30 802 3
    30x 24 732 22 800 30 810 3
    Avg hit 24.4 Avg hit 26.666667 Avg hit 27
     

  15. cps10

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    Obviously I don't have the capability to post the actual spreadsheet. lol Sorry Will try and get it up there later.
     
  16. Rulet

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    This is not my first time, I have looked into this system for many years on the other forum when turbo was posting.
    Anyway, I have delivered my verdict whatever it’s worth.
     
  17. Smitridel

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    Good.
    Once you've discarded all the semi-final methods (since there are no ironclad rules to be found) presented here, you should be mentally ready to try and give it your own interpretation.

    Take a break from it, then try again using your own twist.
    Even if at first you dont come up with anything successful you will have arrived at a greater point of understanding.

    Also for what its worth, try to make it only flat bet and disregard anything said about progressions.
     
  18. Ricky_BRS

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    Or you could use a 1-5 positive progression on a win or some other gradual positive progression strategy. I think the closest to the mark so far has been ACD's approach and its proving to give promissing results. There is one other aspect you need to consider to make this repeaters Horserace work in your favour: Ensue you define a strategy to keep your sessions short or within managable limits.

    Cheers,
    Ricky
     
  19. Smitridel

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    You mean CDN?

    If so, I have mixed results both real play and tested.
    The 1-5-reset to 1 would kill you if you fall on a slow race many repeaters but not successive enough hits to get a comeback, using both selection methods he provided.

    The ONLY thing I havent tried on his approach is if you have multiple columns limiting them up to 9 (since statistically you will have at least 9 2xs on each 37 cycle) and select your numbers from there ( two times in a row on each respective column).

    And I strongly disagree about the progression.
    If you need a positive progression to get though rough patches, you might as well try a negative one - the mentality is the same.
     
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  20. Ricky_BRS

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    Sorry Yes I mean CDN. I have altered his strategy slightly to provide better results but am testing it long term so will not expand until I can confirm it has a real advantage.

    I use Positive Progression to my favour not to hide a losing stategy. If you know a strategy works why not capitalize on it. The progression will always end in positive territory regardless. That's why we call it positive.

    To understand why CDN's idea of running multiple horseraces is a decent idea think of it as multiple contributors to a common goal. Random will take care of which contributor makes it first to that goal. Once the goal is reached no need to continue the other races.

    Also, to keep with another strategy's idea of a Magic Number (ala VADDI), how many concurrent horse races is "optimal" to run to have an edge over the house? This is where I am exploring.

    cheers
    Ricky
     
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