TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

If the common goal is to win back money from casinos who were raking in tons of cash over the years, why not just share a "working method" for a tiny fraction of people that read these (compared to the numbers that play the game) and benefit? That is if someone actually has and uses a working method around Turbo's ideas.

 

Not to burn the cake here, but if you are waiting for someone explaining step by step a 100% working method, then i need to disapoint you, you won't find it online in any forum. As turbo explained before, all the elements were presented over the last couple of years here as different pieces. It's up to us, to combine those pieces and find it. It took me personal more then 5 years to realise i will never see it. Or i have an iq below 50 or it just doesn't excist. I will keep the awnser to that question in the middle ): I have given up months ago. Not saying roulette isnt fun, but chasing a fairytale, nah, been there, done that, burned my fingers multiple times. I learned my lesson. But go for it, you have my blessing

 

One a side note,

Every spin is independant!
Every spin a number between 0 (0-0) and 36 has the exact same chance of falling.
End of story!

 

In a way thats exactly what I am saying too. Nobody is posting a working method (even one where money mgm would help like win 7 out of 10 sessions losing or making 300u) because there isn't one. I read it all and tested many approaches, even reading randomness that looked promising using Gizmo's testing software when playing on actual tables is losing money, as the "selections" are bit subjective. Some claim they "have it" like bitrock, yet bar few charts and occasional hint that gives nothing apart from sending you on another "testing" spree which always finds me a decent looking method as the "backfitting" to results happens. So something looks mildly good like winning 20 sessions out of 30 with 1 to 1 risk to reward ratio, but when you go to tables its actually not.
Its time to move on and leave this and other gambling games behind.

 

I’ve been studying this thread since Turbo shared his first post back in March.

I thought I would share some recent data. Before I do this though, I think it’s important to point out that I am not claiming a HG. All of my testing is showing that an advantage is possible but only through careful money management and bet selection. In this case, the bet selection is based around repeaters or ‘hot numbers’. Turbo describes this in detail on page one of this thread.

Please note, over the past few months I have completed a number of sessions (each session consists of 1000s of spins). All sessions show similar results. There has been a high level of consistency. Below is data from my most recent session (18,000 spins).

406 CONSECUTIVE WINS

• Base unit: 1
• Total profit: 6495 units
• Average profit per game: 16 units
• Total spins: 18,140

Progression

• +1 positive progression
• Progression is removed when it is not needed
• If done correctly, the most you can win per game is between 1 and 35 units.

More stats….

• 82% of games won flat bet.
• 18% of games used a progression

Of the 18% games which used a progression

• 43% used +2 units (Progression level 2)
• 19% used +3 units (Progression level 3)
• 13% used +4 units (Progression level 4)
• 12% used +5 units (Progression level 5)
• 4% used +6 units (Progression level 6)
• 3% used +7 units (Progression level 7)
• 3% used +14 units (Progression level 14)
• 1% used +19 units (Progression level 19)

I believe a stop-loss should be used. If a stop-loss was adopted, the following results would have been achieved.

• If a stop loss was activated at -100, the profit would have been 1125 units
• If a stop loss was activated at -200, the profit would have been 1330 units
• If a stop loss was activated at -300, the profit would have been 3026 units
• If a stop loss was activated at -400, the profit would have been 3579 units
• If a stop loss was activated at -500, the profit would have been 4449 units
• If a stop loss was activated at -1000, the profit would have been 4457 units

As I say, this isn’t a HG. It will eventually loose. An extremely small percentage of games were forced to use a progression which crept above ten. These are the games which will eventually crash. This is why I have recorded data relating to the implementation of a stop-loss.The all important money management!

Plenty of testing still to do.

 

There is not a method but a concept, a theory from which every one build his own strategy. It's about finding balance, what Turbo explained can be used by anyone in many different ways depending of each one's play style but respecting the basic advices he gave : not all the numbers, and not all the time and choosing progression carefully. From my experience I manage to do it flatbetting but with some loosing session. I don't know about Jono strategy but I agree with what he said about the loosing session that can be overcome with a positive progression with a stop loss and good money management. I can say actually the more a session can loose at first and the closer you can be from winning it long term if you play smart with a progression, but sometimes it is better to accept the loss and start again because most of the time it will win because very often it numbers repeat fast.

So yes it is not a HG as it is not a system but simply facts that you can use to develop a winning strategy so I don't think anybody is going to explain a very clear and specific method here since its very personal dand it depends on how you like to play it.

 

Gigi666 accordi ng to his post has had it and I can see his point.There is a limit to what one can stomach.

It`s a conversation topic only.

 

Thanks Jono for posting the stats, I've been checking your games for a while on RS and I don't think its any different than picking a random number from the start. If you have all your sessions recorded you can surely check that if you win more often than 1/37, but if you would you could win flat betting even with variance (increasing as your bankroll grows and decreasing if it falls before the previous level, for example 500 units base bank your stake is 1u once you get to 1000u you change to 2u if drawdan hits you to 500u you go back to 1u etc.).

We've all seen many ideas from Turbo, whether he uses any of this himself and how is unknown. Many of us played around with most or all from repeater single numbers, streets to cold stuff and while you can have spectacular sessions, reality is more often you will lose, so (not being math expert) I don't see the advantages in % that Turbo is trying to show.

 

It's a pattern that happens all the time. Betting on the hot numbers all the time won't work. Look for pattern(s) and exploit them.

 

If your avg profit is 16 over long term and that win to lose % ratio would hold (I assume you win flat bet if a number hits within 36 spins) then in 1000 games you would be +6640 profit. Not enough details as you might be still playing flat if number hits on spins 55 and being down only 19u you'd probably still play other number with base stake.
Just some thoughts in case you wanted to analyze from different angles.

 

You have my email, maybe you can show me the pattern then as I don't see it.

 

Including you who claimed in the Forex section that he is winning each week with several methods, and even the Hit and Run strategy is a winning system, yet you don't share even one of all your HolyGrails and it is Christmas soon. You are a very kind person

 

Bago - I never claimed I have HG in roulette, but as always you read between lines what you want. In Forex there are many more angles that can be exploited unlike in Roulette and yes I have multiple methods that I run in a portfolio that suit to my trading style. And so what that I am making money there? Should that prevent me from exploring the game of roulette or anything else? Who are you to forbid, as I said before, you are just a wining troll that deserves to only be ignored (just seen your post by accident as I was not logged in , lol).

 

You said I struggle with english but you just demonstrated that you suck more than I do. I didn't write "Roulette" in my post, at any moment; I wrote: "In the FOREX section", so the winning methods/HolyGrails were of course related to Forex.

I am just pointing out that you want people to help you win at Roulette, you even asked someone to give you "a pattern" for repeaters, but you don't even share "hints" for Forex, you just claim that you win without giving any proof whatsoever, so in fact you are no different than members who claim to win at Roulette. Don't take it badly, those are just hard facts.

 

Here's how you win at roulette:

1) Walk up to the table.
2) Pull out cash
3) Laugh at all of the suckers playing it.
4) Put your cash back in your pocket and walk away.

 

This is the Money Back HolyGrail Strategy ! but if you have a Casino member card, you are earning points that can be converted into presents but if you never play and just cash back everynight you come, it will be obvious and they won't allow that

 

The biggest suckers are the ones who think that they are beating the House.

 

The winners in a casino re a minority >>>>>>>>>>>> 5%.


Winners reporting at forums 100%.



Interesting;

 

Unless they don't want to, to give you an even worse beating, well, the House always wins.

 

Actually, as I covered in my 38/37 people go into a casino topic, ALL players can walk out a winner.

Even if everyone went in and played their own single number over and over - after 37 spins there would
be on average 24 people in profit out of 37. That's well over 5%, more like 66%
And even if you go the advice of the so called gambling experts - your best bet is to wager all the money at once
on a even money bet for just 1 spin (claiming this is your best chance to win) - and even with that you
would have 50% being winners, not 5%

The reason why people lose more than win is because they are playing completely wrong - and for too long.
The more time that goes by, the bigger the house edge looms like a cloud over them until most people
will lose.

It's strange to call someone who claims to beat the house edge and has built up a massive bankroll a "sucker" -
but to each their own.