TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

You know after honest to god testing of all of TurboGenius Ideas. Reading all his post and other posters comments on his various discussion.

One thing is always brought up and nobody ever adequately answers it. But always deflected...

We get it... if you track numbers using the "race horse" analogy you can "pick the winner" above "expectation".

But as the now 10th or 20th poster who has brought this up.

The Hits in BETWEEN . Are always within the expectation of 37. Sure lets say "20" was the First to the 3rd hit and you'll probably be right about the first to the 4th hit. But the DISTANCE BETWEEN the hits will be with the expectation.

You can pick the "winner". Only because it did hit first and the math says it has to hit again in 37 spins so its only NATURAL for the first hit to "MOST" likely hit again because it's the MATH.

If "2" and "5" land its just obvious "Long Term" maths that the 2 will "hit" before the "5" because it came BEFORE THE 5.

Turbo you have honestly gone in circles to prove a point that we are asking questions too and getting thrown into another loop.


You mentioned a while back. That all the pieces are here. But you are constantly adding "new" pieces that don't even make sense or contradict older post of yours. Which then you say I'm just experimenting with the same principles just different ways.


But my question is why?? If it works... Why change anything?

When peoples system don't work.. Does anybody else notice they always constantly change and "improve" the strategy. Now I'm not discrediting or crediting you just stating the facts.

Also I would be curious if its simply "exploiting" law of averages which is just the "its due" mentality. They have put super computers to the game and haven't came up with any "pattern" that beats 2-3 pocket edge. Only edge I see are fringe edges like if you see 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 start appearing on the marquee one can rest assure it won't go sequential.

 

They keep changing it because it DOESN'T work!

 

Logic and common sense are the missing elements.

 

There may be some pieces from different puzzles that's why you can't finish the puzzle (HolyGrail). Grin.

 

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if you sit down at a roulette table and the 7 comes twice in a row
the 7 is definitely more likely to hit more than any other number within the first 100 spins if you count those first 2 hits as among the first 100

but if you don't count those first 2 hits
and look forward to the next 100 spins

then the 7 is not any more likely to come more often than any other number

and anybody who thinks it is more likely to come than any other number within the next 100 spins............

is dreaming - absolutely dreaming

the advantage of repeaters theory is a doomed theory

 

How is it "dreaming" ?

If we sit down, we "know" some things for certain don't we ?
We know for example that a few numbers won't appear for 100+ spins.
We know for example that a few numbers will show up 4,5,6 times during those same spins.

What are the odds that you - thinking they are "all the same" and play a number that hasn't
appeared yet end up betting on one of the numbers that don't appear ? Pretty good I'd say.
What are the odds that I win playing a number that has appeared because I expect it to be one of the hot numbers ? Pretty good, right ?

It's all about potentiality (having or showing the capacity to become or develop into something in the future.)

As spins go by and we sit there playing - ANY number that hasn't appeared yet has a better and better
chance of being one of those long term sleepers that depletes your bankroll because for some reason you
were betting on it.
Any number that HAS appeared has the potential to be one of the hot numbers that keep appearing.
It certainly can't be one of the long term sleepers, because...... it's already appeared - it's not in that
list of doomed numbers that you are playing because you think they all are the same.

A number can't appear twice unless it's appeared once.
A number can't appear three times unless it's appeared twice.
A number that hasn't appeared is more likely to be a long term sleeper.

This isn't a dream, but it is common sense. Take it or leave it.

 

You can only profit by betting and winning on a location that shows up better than the house payout.
I've never changed from this since day 1 - "HOW" you choose to do that has multiple paths, many of which I've laid out.
If it's predicting which numbers will be hot, or a cold number finally showing up and then bet on as it becomes hot -
or a horse race that predicts the hottest number before it happens, etc etc etc.
There's no going in circles - it's all the same picture approached from multiple angles because people like to play
in different ways and with different styles.
If you don't mind playing 300 spins like me - then there's one approach. If you want to play for an hour tops
there's another - they all have as a foundation - the goal of picking locations to bet that appear better than what
the house pays out. Maybe there's a puzzle for some people but the picture is pretty clear if you don't over complicate it.

 

Very accurate.

Ken

 

Turbo, I think I just got it this afternoon. I got a question. Do you bet all of the numbers or a few. Also is the progression needed. I'm currently all flat bets up over 10k spins. I got to run this like 100k spins. But If this comes out ahead. I'm lose my mind if it was this simple.

 

Turbo posted many ways and many repeater "advantages":
- Horse races - apparently hit rate around 1 per 24 spins instead of 37
- streets in a dozen - 66% chance of hitting one of the 2 that showed up before 3rd different hits instead of 50%
- single numbers in a street - again advantage that a number repeats within a street before all 3 different ones hit (although hitting a non repeat after first number shows is more likely in this case)

I spent a lot of time on all of these and none can win flat betting long term (looked at different angles, 37spin cycles, spin counts to see anything standing out etc.), obviously because of lack of actual advantage progression does not help. You'll get a lot of crazy good sessions, but in the end there are more losing ones, so unless someone at some point can show me "the light", I am not getting how one can benefit from repeaters long term.
I even tried combining playing numbers within streets within dozens to stay on whats "more likely" to repeat and even though it shows good results on my RS profile, beware its not going to work long term in a real casino.

 

Again every theory described is refreshing and from a different than usual perspective.

Still, the problem lies in the gaps as Ive already noted so many times (or the distance between repeating numbers as someone else noted).
Yes a number can repeat over and over again (although I highly doubt that it stays the same most of the times) but at what rate?

And if progression is needed to overcome this lack of rythm on hot numbers, then all this discussion is invalid.

 

Maybe a winner with the method might come forward and tell you what the problem might be .

 

I was in touch with one forum member already who claimed he can win every time with repeaters as he/she was willing to share more details, even shared with them my personal email to show that I can be trusted, as I offered to share my winnings (because why not if I can work with higher bankroll then that person would benefit in growing theirs quicker). Initially there was interest in sharing the "method" with me, but suddenly all communications stopped, which leads me to believe the "repeater method" also stopped winning.

My offer still stands.

 

With 36 pages and over 700 post there should have been atlas one positive suggestion how to tackle this method.

Lokk, even the EC with Black or Red are not always the expected winners .


ND

 

I think Jono suggested something that COULD work:
Stop loss.

That could help manage those sessions that are difficult to manage (profit wise).

Although even a stop loss cant help you if you encounter back to back spins from hell.
If its possible to have predictable sessions (and profitable) its also quite possible and probable that you will have difficult sessions as well (back to back, alternating and etc).

 

Yes good post but as stated before by many people , this forum ,that forum and anywhere any semblance of common sense or even in dimly lit booze halls full of blithering village idiots gather, in a nutshell ...:..
Everything works until it doesn’t, the smart ones know when it’s no longer working and stop, take a break and come back later. Before they burn the bankroll. just a thought. Cheers

 

There have been positive suggestions , some questions however have not been answered directly e.g is a progression required. I have used flat bet and progression if I don’t want to spend a lot of time playing a session. The less spins it takes to reach a target win the better for me personally as I don’t like playing at home online. I enjoy the social side of going to a real casino along with the perks. As most people have already agreed on, the majority of players are winning before they lose. What you are happy to walk away with will make a big difference to whether you win or lose.

 

You can test without a stop loss to see max drawdowns and max profits to see whether there is a viable balance point and setting a stop loss to give you a good risk to reward ratio. The reality of is unfortunately over long time all I tried was losing more than winning even if over 20-30 sessions it would show a profit and potential.

 

What are you using to test and how are you recording the results of the spins?

 

I am using RX to test and use various spins from b&m casino wheels, online rng tables that I played and recorded in the past to live dealer online casinos