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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Gigi666

    Gigi666 Active Member

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    Any reason why 185 spins per session?
     
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  2. GaryG

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    Possibly because the same thing happens within 185 spins?
     
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  3. jekhb1976

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    No, just the max. timeframe it would play in a casino. 185 is aprox. 3h.
    But same thing will happen in 148 spins, aprox 2,5 hours etc but will take 185 for example.
     
  4. Gigi666

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    Right. Running few cycles will produce certain averages for 3, 4, 5 hitters, but can't see how max 8 numbers comes into play. I did lose eventually playing your way (likely I was over staking, but i did have more than 8 numbers at the time of losing my bankroll).
     
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  5. Platton

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    I have only for 85 sessions spins but test it
     

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  6. Gigi666

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    Thanks Platton, I ran few sessions too and getting same averages.

    Eddie, the stats are for consecutive play, your live play suggestion will miss repeats since you go for example 12,14,23,0,0 (you will play Zero), scratch previous numbers, 26,34,12 (you won't play 12 at that point which might be hitting right in between your repeats way more often that the ones you actually are betting on).

    Looking forward to see your explanation of play with 8 max numbers and how to exploit the stats for 3,4,5.
     
  7. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    it's about the limit of random.
    The misses aren't important, it's the hitters that count and using the right progression.
     
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  8. Naughty but nice

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    Eddie; do you re-set on a profit. Turbo shows winning 1000's of units; so has he re-set?
     
  9. jekhb1976

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    No, you don't have to. But you can implement reset points everytime you reach a new high, because you can then judge if you wanna go home or go for another round. But no, you can just continue.
     
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  10. jekhb1976

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    the high profits ed shows is because he uses higher stakes then me. i only use 1€-€5 units, turbo i believe €25.
     
  11. GaryG

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    31 sessions so far. This better jekhb?
     
  12. Gigi666

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    Thats fine Gary, you dont have to run 100 of them to know the min/max and avg, just look at your and Platton's combined.
     
  13. GaryG

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    While we wait for jekhb or turbo to chime in, if our "finish line" is 185 spins, and we think about turbos and jekhbs bag o' balls...and when we have a repeater we "remove" that ball, is there a way to play ONLY up to 8 numbers (if needed) knowing we will reach a new high?
     
  14. Héctor AT

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    I also did what he asked, but with this I do not see how he can improve what I explain.
    Could you go into a little more detail?
     

  15. Naughty but nice

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    Eddie
    Data for 60 spins says repeats could show as 1-3-5-7-30. Even the Chief says 1 repeat in 1st 10 spins.
    The best part of the data, is from the King of the GLOAT's, Dr Sir. Here is a game from R-sim, does Turbo like R-sim? +92
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    upload_2021-5-28_12-36-41.png The actual avg for 60 spins is 29.5 non-hits.
    So, 1 repeat in 1st 10. 5 repeats 2nd 10, +1 for repeats. 8 repeats in 3rd set of 10 spins. At 40th spin, 26 of the starting 37 have hit; so, 14 repeats, 2 repeats down on the avg of 1-3-5-7=16. But at 60 spins it's virtually a balanced game. 29 of the starting 37 have hit at least once.
    How many numbers does one need to win?
     
  16. Naughty but nice

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    ED; 60 spins.
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    Profit gained, only +7; only 1 non-hit remains.
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    upload_2021-5-28_16-52-45.png Do you know the secret?
     
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    You got to like that. Even chief of the GLOAT's got to like that.
     
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    short summary
    have fun
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  19. GaryG

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    Hector, can you upload your spin data? I'm still building mine to 100 sessions
     
  20. jekhb1976

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    Sorry, that i didn't comment sooner, was very busy the last couple of days.
    Today i realized something that until today i didn't think of any sooner, maybe it's the weather lol.
    I talked about max 8 numbers and 185 spins, remember?
    But here's the funny part, i always thought of session lenght regarding spins and time at a casino and that the max hours i spend i a casino would be my session lenght, win or lose.
    But what is the most important thing when playing roulette?
    BETSELECTION AND BANKROLL

    SIMPLE RULES WE ALL SHOULD FOLLOW:
    a. Never bet on numbers that haven't showed up yet. Those can be long time sleepers.
    b. Never bet on too many numbers - more hits, but bigger drawdown also.
    c. Only play with math, not with birthday numbers or negative progressions.
    d. Only use a possitive progression, never use +1 but more agressive. It doesn't matter it could be 1-2-4-6-8 etc or 1-2-4-8-16-32 etc as long as it's agressive and we are in advantage because we have a good beselection and we use math to win, no hocus pocus.

    NOW THW THING THAT CAME TO ME TODAY.
    when you start playing roulette, you sit at the table and the first number out is our first number we play, we don't wait for triggers we begin right away. say number 24 comes, this is now or first number in our session. We play every number that comes for let's say the next 8 spins. Now we are 8 spins in and we have our eight numbers we stick with all the way during our entire session.

    WHAT DO WE KNOW?

    Well for starters we know, we don't play sleepers, we play numbers that have shown and are possible 2s 3s 4s etc.... We don't have to fight against 37 numbers anymore, the odds are better, because we have a good bet selection.
    As you know every cycle has repeats, in the form of 2s3s4s etc so as time goes by the better our odds. i don't have to explain this anymore, is just comon sence.
    a 2 hit was once a 1 hit etc etc.
    now comes the best part. when does our session ends???????
    When we are in profit!!!!!! every session we play.
    Possible????? YES
    How?


    A session can be 2 spins or 1500 spins !!!!!!
    That's all fine and dandy you will say, but we can't play 1500 spins in a BM setting! And i will ask; WHY?

    for those who can awnser this question, how it is possible in BM setting to play infinite spins wel atleast until we have made profit, will have the awnser to never lose again. since today i know how, but i wanna see how much out of the box thinking everyone can do and not thinking about the next spin or in time.

    talk later
     
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