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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Héctor AT

    Héctor AT New Member

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    So Mr. jekhb1976, everything you said doesn't always work and you are looking for a way to do it? But didn't you say you knew how to win every time by playing 8 numbers?
     
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  2. Naughty but nice

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    Eddy

    At one point I got to betting 6 #’s; because I was missing the 2nd hit. Win spin 110. I could see I should be betting just 1 number.

    You can see after spin 112, I drop all bar the 1 number. The angle of draw down changed thru betting just the 1 number.

    At spin 130 it still betting 1 number and at 140 there’s a 2nd number being bet. This 2nd number is the win at spin 145.

    So, like in the riddles at one point betting to0 many numbers, which, yes would probably make the bank-roll bust.

    Partly the reason was betting those extra numbers when the match/hit was showing just 1 number to bet, was because it seemed betting more would get the hit, but at what cost.

    So, testing now will be watch what is being shown, bet 1 number then up to 4, unless indicated to bet just 1 number again.
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    Should one take the 1st profit +35 spin 21

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  3. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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  4. Gigi666

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    I would not bother betting the 1x line and yes I would suggest stopping early with first win if its gives you over 20u. If you run a lot of these, you will notice that wins either come early (first 37 spins) or between 70-100 spins, so why spend hours battling the wheel if you can just take the win and start the session over.
     
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    Thanks Gigi on answer whether to stop and reset. Here I finished the 20 spins. Plus what happens if reset for spin 13
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  6. Denzie

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    Lol....nobody even tried ? :banghead:
     
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    So question is do you have the bankroll to carry on. The 1st 4 1x's will cost 10 units if lose drop them
     

  8. jekhb1976

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    just a thought, nothing more though,
    but isn't it an option to only play 1 leader per Colum? and start right away,so you always play max 3 numbers and switvh only when you have a new leader?
     
  9. jekhb1976

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    It did explain how it is done, but also not practical.
    No i don't have a HG, didn't said i did lol, but you can stil win way more then you lose.
     
  10. Platton

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    I tried it. I've read all your messages many times. But this is an example of a game only on the first column. It's first. And the second thing I just double-checked is it doesn't work, at least straight, like you wrote. Because this leader, when he leaves the column, very often then falls out a long distance, even if removed after 35 spins, which basically always has to be done, only causes a loss. So it doesn't work, sorry.
     
  11. Platton

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    we can`t always play 3 numbers. Turbo says. If we play only leader or always play 3 numbers we doing it wrong.
     
  12. Gigi666

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    I tried that in the past it does not change much, especially that each column further from the leader will be less and less consistent (as per example below). I still think its best to take the early profit (for example making 2-3 new highs if first win isnt enough) and if you want to continue start tracking a new session. It does happen at times that those first 4-5x laps can amount to a significant drawdown even if you play max 3-4 numbers, so still a decent bankroll would be required.

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  13. Gigi666

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    You should NOT take all that TG wrote as true, he might want to put you off the right path on purpose, either way everyone have to test themselves and see if something works or not. We have no idea really how or even if Turbo is using this.
     
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  14. Gigi666

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    Example of the play @jekhb1976 following just the leader of each column, taking off the board the number that was the leader earlier. It was all flat betting, since it shows clearly we are losing advantage the longer we play (I would say this was better than average session in a way how quickly the top 2 hitters were established), so I don't think using any progression would be a good idea. I'll do few more examples just to show taking early profit is probably the best idea.
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    Another example showing the longer you play the top numbers the worse it gets, but there multiple opportunities to get out before spin 75+. This is not an unusual session by the way, that leaders swap so often.
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    This is a 1 or 2 number bet method. Nope , it doesn't win flat but it does win with the right progression and MM . Anyway , thx for your reply .... progression is the key
     
  17. Denzie

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    Actually, there's great info How to know WHICH one gonna hit soon. What did TG say....use a progression for make up the times you were wrong....And thats needed. You can't win every casino visit but you can recover and come out in profit later.

    It would be good to see TG start a topic about progression and MM....that might do the trick
     
  18. Platton

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    Lol, Man... Really? )))
    You really think Turbo wants to move us out of the right path? I think if he wanted to move us out of the right path, he would write nothing at all! I was just testing hundreds of different ideas, and then, when I began to reread this topic many times, I realized that he was right about what I quoted and warned us in advance. So no, Turbo in this regard wanted to save us time I think.
    Anyway, what I want to say about all this. After a constant number of tests in many months of different ideas on this race, and everything ended in collapse, BUT, there was a huge experience and understanding of what is happening in roulette thanks to these tests, I came to the conclusion that the whole thing is not only in hot numbers, but just in cold ones. In my opinion, you Gigi wrote to someone that when the number is hot, you are already late. Well, actually no, playing on hot numbers is great, using logic and tests, which Turbo showed us, and we ourselves made sure that on hot numbers fall out on average 24-26, etc., less than a payout of 35. And this is an advantage. But I didn`t personally find how to use it. And I believe, based on my hundreds, if not more tests, that this is not enough.
    I remember reading several people here on the forum who found how to use it, wrote something like the word that we play not the hottest, but the warmest, becoming hot. And these were very less authoritative people here in the forum. In general, it really sounded from a few people who found it, and whom I trust. This also comes from my tests, and this is confirmed by the fact that the last thing Turbo wrote was about cold numbers. And personally, I am deeply convinced of this. No, play by cold numbers, but play by warm ones that will become hot. So the whole point I think is to look for, cold numbers get hot, and bet before they get hot. I don't see another option. And this in general applies to what the jekhb wrote. I think he called it math, I call it balance. That yes, in the end all numbers should be ordered equally, balanced. According to the law, some come forward, then are replaced by others who are behind, so that everything is balanced. So we have to look somewhere here.
     
  19. Gigi666

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    Was not me about when you play hot its too late and regarding Turbo I did not mean that particular comment, as I think he is correct here to warn that playing just top number or all 3 won't work which we knew already for a good while. I just wanted to show that it does not work even med term with those examples and no progression in the world will help you win if you can't show any advantage playing flat (or at least breaking even).
    If I remember correctly TG in his video on horse races was dropping the top number that moved to new lap and kept only the other ones, which I also know isn't the way to do it.
    Bitrock claimed he can win flat, but even from his playthrough of one of my files I could not "decipher" how exactly he made decisions that he made.

    If you want to play "warm" numbers you can try the below:
    1. Run 37 spin cycle
    2. Look at numbers that hit 1 time (so the expected value per cycle)
    3. Bet on all of them or just a subset (I'd suggest based on my tests at least 4 numbers)
    4. Finish the bets once you reach new high once or twice (you can see what works for you after 20-30 sessions)
    5. Then take off the bets and run spins until cycle is completed, then look at those numbers that hit 2 times
    6. Place bets and repeat step 4.

    I would not go beyond cycle 5 (so betting on those from cycle 4 make profit and finish), but you could also just finish after cycle 1 or 2 (it will occasionally need you to bet for 37 spins and be in a loss, so you can either increase stakes for next cycle or just bet flat)

    Try it.
     
  20. jekhb1976

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    maybe you guys understood me wrong, but what i ment was this...
     

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