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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. hotjohnnn

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    Actually you do not say in how many spins this happens because from my tests this is not true.
    Most of the times the numbers who lead the ''race'' stay cold for many spins and other take the lead.
     
  2. Naughty but nice

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    upload_2022-6-8_11-36-7.png John each lap wants to get to 37; from the left to the right. What position was #27 on lap 1x?
    What position was #7 on lap 2x? How much has been bet on top3 #'s?
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  3. Naughty but nice

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    John playing just 4 numbers.
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  4. Denzie

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    That's exactly what I've done....I tested tons of sessions to compare . (Wright the spin count also ) .... look at them till it hits you!!!

    Do some work manually too because then you will see things more clearly.... (pen and paper)

    If you know what's going to happen you should place your bets.
     
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    Numbers are not humans, not alive and they nothing do. They are simply boxes or pockets into which dealers hit the ball. Very easy to do something with a wheel and get one hit numbers distribution in 1000 spins, then do something other and get absolutely other hit numbers distribution.

    And that "something" can be such a thing, which you maybe never will see, never will notice... :)
    So to you, it may seem that the numbers have changed their behavior but in reality, they will not be the main actors in that... :)

    The player must understand - who is the main actor in the play, and who pulls the strings :), if will not understand - will not see winnings...
     
  6. Naughty but nice

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    John see if the repeats hit fast like they did in 40 spins; you should take the profit.
    But don't give up, just 4 #'s; don't Mr J like 4 #'s? back to the profit of spin 31.
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    Look how many R4 to go forward. Are spins for a repeat of the 4#'s speeding up?
     
  7. hotjohnnn

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    Theory is good but facts and results are the only that matter.
    You talk about VB so this is a very different topic i hope you understand it.
    Also you cannot explain from point A to Z how to apply VB.
    So lets keep it as it is about repeaters and if there is an advantage using them.
     

  8. hotjohnnn

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    I will try but so far on RX leading numbers change a lot but i am sure you know it.
     
  9. Naughty but nice

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    Well this way of play was posted in @turbo back in the day at RF Johnny.
    Is just 4 numbers as good as top3?
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  10. hotjohnnn

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    The only way to me repeaters make sense is in the first hit knowing the worst case scenario.
    Other than that so far i do not see any other situation i can take advantage of it with confidence.
    So how do you play?

    Do you follow the leading numbers or do you play the averages 1-3-5-7-30?
     
  11. hotjohnnn

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    This one is only one situation does not prove nothing.
    To prove something that works we need to do it over and over again.
    We all can take results when it fits our game and claim it is a winner as many do.
    But lets be real and talk about the facts.
     
  12. Naughty but nice

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    John 1-3-5-7-& 30 is the expected repeats over 60 spins.
    1 repeat in spins 1-10 and the chief of the riddlers says this.
    3 repeats in spins 11-20
    5 repeats in spins 21-30
    7 repeats in spins 31-40 In the above game on R-sim there was 19 repeats only 16 repeats are expected so repeats were +3 to the average.
    Look what happened in the next 20 spins. the non-hits smashed it and ended at 29 non-hits from the starting 37.
    30 repeats at 60 spins.
     
  13. hotjohnnn

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    Sure i am not arguing that but it happened in this example.
    What about 1.000.000 other examples?
    This is the point...
    I am looking into that as well that is why i am here but there is a big BUT.
     
  14. Naughty but nice

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    John that average was gained from play on FOBT's in UK betting shops. Now this forums troll and at RF, the Dr Sir anyone said its a mickey mouse
    picture of a wheel. But what he doesn't take on board is what he calls the Flaw of the third happens on the fobt's.
    He then posted 10'330 live spins and guess what? the average of 1-3-5-7&30 was there.
    Now on ITV, you know that as you're in UK, had a game of roulette using an airball mahine. It gives that average.
    Ignatus posts live German spins at RF and these show that average.

    So, its all about experiance, like Den says practice, observe the blocks of 10 spins, what are repeats doing? + or -
    If - at 40 spins then they should start to catch up to get close to the 30/30
    Your problem is choosing who to stake and what prog if any?

    Perhaps the Chief can throw some more riddles out for you.
     

  15. hotjohnnn

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    Sure but i do not see any advantage on betting the leading numbers that is what i said.
    Even mathematics prove that we will have repeaters.
    The problem is when and as you said we have clues and averages which is true.

    The thing is why do we try to complicate things and bet 3 or 4 or 5 numbers
    and do not concentrate to win just one time in the cycle of 37 spins?
    For example we know it is rare to have 20 unique numbers in the first 20 spins.
    What is the worst case scenario of unique numbers before a repeater?
    Only if we have these answers we can build a progression and say ok,
    we will lose 100 times but we will win 200 times and this is how we make profit.

    The theory is not bad but we have to prove it otherwise it is nothing.
    As i said i am here to find this out but also bring the facts and face them.
     
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    No, I do not talk about VB...method of play here is no matter, matter - result as you said. So I want ask you which results you got when playing repeaters? If you are a total winner - what I can say...
    But something says to me that you are not a total winner...simply you are a gambler who wants to play repeaters...is it true or not? :)
     
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  17. Naughty but nice

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    Course he's a gambler.
    Anyone, yeah and him; who walks through the door of a bookies or casino are gamblers.
    But most are mug punters, don't have a clue.

    With knowing how the starting 37 can perform, you have helped your self already.
    If you back horses you need to know quite alot; one is, does a horse like going clockwise or anti-clockwise. that'll start you.
     
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    Even the chief and Den won't go in here, the Dr Sir anyone's mighty MPR, that is supposedly using random org numbers.
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    See the score at 60 spins? 30 repeats.
     
  19. Nimo

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    Don't get caught up in the must win by a certain spin cycle that is prevalent throughout all the forums. Turbo shows at the beginning of this thread a hit rate average of roughly 24 spins within a payout of 35 to1, more than enough to profit within your muliplie 37 spin cycles. Naughty's 1-3-5-7/ 30 in 60 is based on 10 spin intervals, not 37 spin cycles. There is a lot of valuble information here to comprehend.
     
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    Maybe I didn't get your point exactly, but I really wanted to play at a table with a player who uses the repeaters system for once and see him beating me.
    I saw many players - gamblers, yes some done better than me, but all that was in a short time... Not seen any who do really well in a long time...
     
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