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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    What he means is that the bankroll continuously rises, so the player can exit in profit many times.
    Not absurd.
     
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  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    While I completely understand the nay-sayers preaching that
    random can not be predictable, you can't win better than 1 in 37 long term and
    certainly not better than 1 in 35 to achieve a profit.....
    You are free to be wrong.
    I just ran this off, the gazillionth test run and what's obvious is obvious.

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    If someone says "I tested this and got mostly 0's" or they can look at this
    and still say that random can't be predicted then you can just nod and continue on
    because there's no help for them.
     
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  4. Gigi666

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    @TurboGenius I never disputed that what you are showing at least with the 1x,2x,3x "setup" does not have potential, but I am failing to see how this can be played flat and in profit consistently.
    I understand that switching between numbers, dropping them is key to success, since playing all in lap to repeat in next lap isn't the way to go unless one is prepared to dish out a solid negative prog, which you mentioned a long time ago already its not the way to do this, although since you keep showing the "matches" my guess it is one of the things we should look at.
    Same time though I fail to see the point of showing the avg spins per hit, since you can't be always on the winners.
    Leader always "escapes the velocity", but again playing just on leader isn't a winning strategy. I tried of course with more than top 3 (up to top8) and I do track spin count, while a lot of times numbers land around their expected spin count within a lap averages, that isnt a case often enough to exploit and build a strategy around.
    A lot of times the "new" comers to the current or lap that has filled tracked positions do hit closely after to jump to next lap and become one of the top numbers, but ... again it does not happen often enough to exploit at least not in tests I've done.
     
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    NoT eNOugH sPiNz!spins!! Hahaha
     
  6. Davemd

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    Turbo could you please post the spin file for this table ?
    Many thanks.
     
  7. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Those that leave can comeback. So, don't forget to DFB
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    or
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  8. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    It's not how many numbers you bet; but how you stake them. The chief Riddler needs to give another riddle.
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    Now past previous high. Is it predictable? Look when #18 made 1st appearance for T8, how long to get to T3
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    142 spins. Why blue line, to show you how the laps are filling. #3 was position 12 lap1x and #18 was position 15; so what.
    But we can see the 2nd dozen finished the lap 1x.
    Will the T3 get to R10; or are those in positon 4 going to 37, just going to keep filling, making the hotties get cool, which they did.
     

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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Busted. Whilst you think the hot will keep being hot. There can be hotties behind the T3 &T8, look at the blue line.
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    T3 sleep
    R2, R3 & R4 just kept filling going to 37.
     
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    Will #28 keep coming? get to be R7 the #30 that slept and woken. Even #4 has come to the fight, started position 1x-33
    So you need big bankroll? or find away to stake and not bust the bank
     
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  11. Naughty but nice

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    Well had around 12 units left and placed on #'s 28 &30 4 units and won. From there back to a profit, not losing bankroll.
    So with careful staking managed to save Bankroll.
    Yes gaps/steps whatever you want to call it, need to watch or there could be trouble ahead.
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    From 160 to 179 Killer
     
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  12. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    10% is that enough Den?
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    At least T8 is triple T3. Know wonder T3 is slow
     
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    Gotta luv DFB
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    To use T3 or T8
    Chiefs shown T5
     
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  15. Ka2

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    Exactly what I was showing! There is no Difference!
     
  16. Ka2

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    I've got the same data @TurboGenius Nobody is disagreeing with you there. However and I've said it so many times now it is where you have a mis! Those spins NEED to go somewhere they NEED to be added to the calculation. If you do that (properly) and (fair) you get 1:37 with the same max gaps!

    also according to you this is 1:21,5 (average)

    1 (10)
    1 (18)
    1 (45)
    2 (12)

    it is not, only when you were right from 1 to 2. When you wrong again those spins need to be added somewhere. Again when you do you get 1:37 and it is not better than random! Yes add a hefty progression can go a long way. So can it and will with random chosen numbers!
     
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    Actually if you look at the chart I posted before it shows all the spins accounted for Flatbet, no progressions, up to 100x, the 100x mark came in at spin 2752 so 1 in 27.52 which is still below the average of 1 in 35 which is needed to profit. FLATBET. All spins counted. This is better than 1 in 37 random.
     
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  18. Ka2

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    Yes I have seen that chart, I also did 100x test a long time ago to see if there could be an advantage there. But no same results. I got a lot of info from those 100x races.

    Your chart is just one race! I also showed a chart of a system I was testing a long time ago. It went up and up for more than 10.000 spins, and then it tanked! Sometimes these flukes just happen.

    One race means nothing. I can show a chart of 1 nr playing for 10.000 spins and win flat bet.
     
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    Also you were on this nr from 1 to 100x???

    MEANING

    If you arent in doesnt mean anything!

    You cant say Oh one nr is always 27 on average when it finishes at 100x. You can only say this when you were on that nr from 1 to 100x!
     
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  20. Ka2

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    Trust me guys if this would work flatbet, you would win the nobelprize for mathematics! It would change the world of mathematics for ever!

    And again where are all the big players? The ones that figured it out??? All of them go dead quiet after a few months, now why is that???
     

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