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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    The biggest problem is that you guys don't have any defined rules. Nobody seems to be able to follow the bet selection being used. This means the rules are changing as you guys look forwards and backwards in your data. That's not going to work. That is a fool's folly.
     
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  2. Smitridel

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    Always filled with so much negativity...

    There was never a defined system described here, thus no defined bet selection as well.

    These are just information about events that are happening at a rate greater than the house edge.
    How will one use them, is up to each ones creativity.
     
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  3. Naughty but nice

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    speaks for its self
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    Soon as 10% was made you could stop.
     
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  4. Naughty but nice

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    General oops no its Dr Sir on here
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    Cough, 10%
     
  5. Armitage Shanks

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    I was playing two games at once and normally would stop earlier but playing for pennies i carry on to test.

    Game 1 is playing for the leading number to repeat fairly simple

    Game 2 is playing for the top 3 to show and once it repeats its removed from betting. Not to sound like Turbo but there is a bit more to it than that but its no HG, yet ;)

    The 3 out of 3 was also an observation as i don't test 1000s and 1000s of spins and hadn't seen it take so long but have already made a small change to counter that if it ever happened again.
     
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  6. Smitridel

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    In my humble opinion and Ive tested hundreds of sessions of hundreds of spins Real money betting is that the essense of Turbos original post is the real treasure.
    And that was also the reason I stopped posting here and that everyone was putting their own iteration whithout following some basic guidelines..

    About guidelines : It doesnt really matter if the leaders keep appearing 1 of 3 or 3 of 3 etc if they dont do it in a repetition rythm relative to your betting BR aka how many spins to keep the lead.

    And most folks here when they post their findings do not include the gaps between the changes or even the repetitions in way similar that Turbo proved the avg 24.7 etc...
    Which in turn doesnt really help any examination or conversation on the matter.
     
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  7. atrox23

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    Amazing run on auto roulette...
     

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  8. Armitage Shanks

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    I was basically just asking what the furthest was that anyone had gone before seeing a 3 out of 3?
    In the example i gave the amount of 2s and 3s in the matching column is low , again not totally in line with my real play experience so far.

    I keep a spin count and averages.
    I don't just bet the top 3 for my 3 out of 3 to complete but thanks for your reply.
     
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    Effectively you want to know the velocity or speed:
    velocity= distance / time​

    The number of hits (distance) and how many spins (time). And rank your numbers on velocity.

    You can take it futher and also look at acceleration as a second level ranking to decide between numbers at the same speed. Acceleration is the change in velocity over time:
    accelation = (v2 - v1) / (spin2 - spin1)​

    Then decide how many spins you will use as your working window. This would allow a continuous betting approach, no resets just ranking pockets based what is moving fastest and accelerating the quickest relative to everything else.

    Then you can apply moving averages over multiple different time frames to smooth it and develop entry and exit criteria based on crossing of averages.

    This is all just spit balling but this is how many derive trading signals to enter and exit the market when it starts to move, retrace etc.
     
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    My tests only going to 20x ( but I'm more interested what happens under 10x) ....the highest was none 3 out of 3 in 20x
     
  11. Armitage Shanks

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    Thanks.
    In real play I'd never go this far either.
     
  12. Median Joe

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    According to some, this is a feature, not a bug, because random doesn't have any rules. :D
     
  13. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Tested their system over one spin. Won big, of course!:D:D:D
     
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    I see you still don't absorb all the information posted. One spin indeed. Reminder that this is FLATBET and there is no need to go 2500+ spins unless you have no life and are looking for a wobbly wheel
     

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    You know, if you're going to cherry-pick a chart surely you could have chosen a better one? It just looks like a typical random walk.
     
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    The chart is an example of many that all end in positive territory. +9.5% hit rate compared to -2.70% for random. Most random results end in negative territory within same parameters.
     
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  17. SERGIO

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    1500 balls to overcome the last win, that's a lot of balls huh!
    I imagine it will be because of the programming, because you will surely win in 100-150 balls at most, but if you find yourself with 1500 balls to win 50 chips, you are not doing something right...

    Greetings Nimo and thanks for answering my mail
     
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  18. Nimo

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    Thanks for your input Sergio. 99% of the time I win in less than 37 spins. As I said in the original post playing 2500+ spins continuously is not something any sane person would do.

    As for the email, I stopped answering any emails related to roulette. Turbo layed it all out and it's up to each person to decipher it themselves. If I can deduce how to play as a simple high school educated former truck driver, it isn't that difficult.
     
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  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Nimo,

    Cherry picking little short term charts doesn't fool anyone. There's a reason that none of you could beat the old game on Steve's forum. You only appear to win on the other simulator because you guys can reset a gazillion times until you get the results you want.

    Playing "could of, would of should of bet this" doesn't work in the real world. It only wins in games with unlimited resets.:D
     
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  20. SERGIO

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    It's normal Mr. Nimo.
    I understand that he must be very happy with his results after so much effort, but I don't understand why it changed his way of being.
    He was a person with whom you could talk and share things, but he reached his goal and he no longer wants to know anything about anyone, but I understand him, this happens to the vast majority of people.
    The most important thing is that he has already found the goose that lays the golden eggs and now he should just enjoy winning big.
    I hope everything goes well for you and if you ever want to chat, you know where I am.

    Health
     
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